Groundhog's Random Banter of Weather Prediction and Anti-Gopherness #120

[Rutskarn]

Until someone develops telepathy that consistently works.

I'd argue that such a thing, while technically possible, would by necessity be physical in nature.

[averagejoe]

The information is not actually being transmitted. It is being created within your mind based on expectations, logic, and input from your senses.

I'm not sure what you mean by this. One can philosophically argue about the nature of information, but bottom line is you can do things to make other people know things, and these things are necessarily physical.

I'd argue that such a thing, while technically possible, would by necessity be physical in nature.

Perhaps. It's hard to say when it doesn't exist, and especially when it doesn't exist in any sort of theoretical framework.

[Recaiden]

You can make people think things faster than light, but not know them.

[Gwyn chan 'r Gwyll]

Let's have alook at that sock-information scenario. If the sock is put up at time A, then the eye will perceive it at a certain time after, once the light reflecting off the sock has reached the eye. From then, the eye sends small electric pulses through the nerves to the brain, moving, of course, slower than light. After that, electric pulses much travel between different parts of the brain, until eventually the brain comes to a conclusion that the other foot has the other sock colour.

Yay.

[Rutskarn]

Perhaps. It's hard to say when it doesn't exist, and especially when it doesn't exist in any sort of theoretical framework.

Well, I'm operating under the assumption that all of the components, to the extent of our knowledge, are physical in nature.

[Recaiden]

Let's have alook at that sock-information scenario. If the sock is put up at time A, then the eye will perceive it at a certain time after, once the light reflecting off the sock has reached the eye. From then, the eye sends small electric pulses through the nerves to the brain, moving, of course, slower than light. After that, electric pulses much travel between different parts of the brain, until eventually the brain comes to a conclusion that the other foot has the other sock colour.

Yay.

My point is that this conclusion about the other sock is not based on any direct interaction, only past experience and related information.

[Rutskarn]

But if a sock is revealed in the woods, and nobody's around to see it, does it die like a cat in a box?

EDIT: Aaand I'm an ogre now. Well. This was a nice 2000th post, now, wasn't it?

[Phase]

But if a sock is revealed in the woods, and nobody's around to see it, does it die like a cat in a box?

EDIT: Aaand I'm an ogre now. Well. This was a nice 2000th post, now, wasn't it?

You forgot to add in one hand clapping.
And congratulations, chum.
Phase is no longer sick! Hooray! Three days asleep fixed my right up!

[Ash08]

good for you Phase! I.... unfortunatly... am still sick, this makes day 13... at least I get to miss school... but darn... this is horrible...

[Rutskarn]

good for you Phase! I.... unfortunatly... am still sick, this makes day 13... at least I get to miss school... but darn... this is horrible...

Jampers--any idea what you have? Usually, if I have something for that long, it's a fever of some kind.

Also: wish me luck, guys--just sent off a query to The Escapist, which is a sort of proto-submission for an article. It's a longshot, but it'd be nice if they accepted it.

[Ash08]

First came fever.... than came pink eye... then came the horrible cough... hopefully the "getting better" part will come soon...(I don't quite get how I've gotten so many weird unrelated things... but the doctors I've visited say that's it's nothing to worry about so...)

But I have been getting steadly better for the last two days. I estimate that I'll most likly be going back to school on monday, which as weird as it sounds(I really, really, hate the school where I am and can't wait for next year to go to where I'm transfering) I'm looking forward to.

Oh yes, and best of luck Rutskarn!

[Phase]

Jampers--any idea what you have? Usually, if I have something for that long, it's a fever of some kind.

Also: wish me luck, guys--just sent off a query to The Escapist, which is a sort of proto-submission for an article. It's a longshot, but it'd be nice if they accepted it.

Luck, but if you get accepted, don't forget all your fans back home once the influx from Escapist comes along, and by fans I mean your number one fan who is me.

And get better soon, Ash.

[Haruki-kun]

Also: wish me luck, guys--just sent off a query to The Escapist, which is a sort of proto-submission for an article. It's a longshot, but it'd be nice if they accepted it.

Good luck with it!

Go teach Yahtzee who's the boss.

[Coidzor]

I'd argue that such a thing, while technically possible, would by necessity be physical in nature.

That'd take all the fun out of life by the added necessity of curing the human animal of all the sexual foibles that much things interesting.

I just wanted you to know, Good Luck, we're all counting on you.

[Nameless]

Gooooood morni--- *looks at clock* noon everyone!

[Coidzor]

Gooooood morni--- *looks at clock* noon everyone!

Have a good lunch? You just reminded me that I need to eat breakfast after staying up all night myself...

Ah the wonders of travel + insomnia...

[Nameless]

Have a good lunch? You just reminded me that I need to eat breakfast after staying up all night myself...

Ah the wonders of travel + insomnia...

I'm about to have a nice lunch.

[Coidzor]

I'm about to have a nice lunch.

What're you having? I'm finishing off a peanut butter sandwich and some kind of liquid yogurt drink that my mother purchased for her dietary concerns but proceeded to never actually use, instead favoring obscene consumption of red meat and sweets, seeming to take having had all of her sons reach adulthood as some kind of justification for such willful abuse and neglect of her body during the last window she has to turn things around so she can actually enjoy living to 70.

Where was I? Oh yeah, oddly enough, finally found some actual 100% juice stuff that's orange+pineapple... you see the flavor combination other places but this is the first time I've seen the juices sold in a mixture with one another.

I'm presuming you're doing something nearer to home since you have time to post...

...ow... is it supposed to hurt your face to have anything come in contact with it during the sandpaper phase? I don't remember it being this painful the last time I shaved it all off....

[Nameless]

Pasta and ice cream. OOOMNOMNOMNOMNOMNOM.

Don't listen to her, you just eat whatever you want.

[Mr. Mud]

Better Sock scenario:

Let's say two electron are orbiting in cohesion, many millions of light years apart. One spinning upwards, the other spinning downward. By some irrelevant circumstance, we know that: They are spinning in complete opposite directions. They will never change direction. And no outside force will interfere with the electrons. By seeing electron A spinning upward, doesn't that mean electron B is spinning downward, before the millions of years (by the seemingly malleable speed of light) it would take to travel however far out and see Electron B? Thus the transmission of that information moves faster than the speed of light. But again, it is useless information and therefore, ultimately irrelevant.

[Fredthefighter]

Better Sock scenario:

Let's say two electron are orbiting in cohesion, many millions of light years apart. One spinning upwards, the other spinning downward. By some irrelevant circumstance, we know that: They are spinning in complete opposite directions. They will never change direction. And no outside force will interfere with the electrons. By seeing electron A spinning upward, doesn't that mean electron B is spinning downward, before the millions of years (by the seemingly malleable speed of light) it would take to travel however far out and see Electron B? Thus the transmission of that information moves faster than the speed of light. But again, it is useless information and therefore, ultimately irrelevant.

Random comment. Cool.

[Dihan]

Pasta and ice cream. OOOMNOMNOMNOMNOMNOM.

Don't listen to her, you just eat whatever you want.

Sounds... Nutritious.

*Scoffs Maltesers*

[Phase]

That'd take all the fun out of life by the added necessity of curing the human animal of all the sexual foibles that much things interesting.

I just wanted you to know, Good Luck, we're all counting on you.

Surely you can't be serious.

[Nameless]

Sounds... Nutritious.

*Scoffs Maltesers*

Can I have one?

[Quincunx]

The scissors scenario is interesting, but something (the spirit of Kepler, perhaps) keeps interjecting my train of thought with mutterings about speed and more importantly the "over TIME" part of the definition thereof, and other things (various organs of mine) are interjecting with discomfort and pain. In short, while I visualize the scissor blades going convex/parallel towards one another as they close, I can't articulate why.

[Mr. Mud]

Random comment. Cool.

Nah, a biggest scientific debacle a page or so back. Check it out Fred! .

[Fredthefighter]

Nah, a biggest scientific debacle a page or so back. Check it out Fred! .

Ah science!
(Actually, I like science, but I've got an exam on the 10th June, so I don't really want to stretch my brain more than necessary)

I might have to check it out.

[Dihan]

Can I have one?

Fiiiiine. *Throws a Malteser at you*

[Nameless]

Fiiiiine. *Throws a Malteser at you*

Hey, I'm not an animal at a zoo...
*Glomps Malteser*

[Phase]

Hey, Fred. Regarding your location, I've managed to convince the people on my TF2 primary server that I hail from a place called Crazytown, population me. The laws are strictly abided by the only citizen (me) and the only member of the imperial senate (me) who established the laws in the first place. We have a trade embargo with Funkytown and I'm sure the Funkytownspeople would not hesitate to aid us in our cause to remove those two extra exclamation marks from your location.

Thank you,

Imperial Senator Phase