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2011-07-12, 09:48 PM (ISO 8601)
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Which Apple?
Also he sounds very believable; sort of a smooth operator type who's fun to do things with, but you wouldn't want your daughter anywhere near.
@ Brazen: Mary Sue, as a word, has been watered down a lot. I think it's a character who has those traits you mentioned, to the extent that the quality of the show suffers. It's one thing to have someone like Bruce Wayne as your main character; it's another thing to just make up a character with Bruce Wayne's training and resources and dump them in a show where, up to now, someone more relatable and grounded has been the main character.Last edited by darthbobcat; 2011-07-12 at 09:54 PM.
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2011-07-12, 09:53 PM (ISO 8601)
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Yes, but despite all her powers and benefits, Twilight Sparkle still fails, a lot. She screws up, makes mistakes, has flaws. She has areas where her friends are simply better than her.
A "Mary Sue" would be as fast or faster as Rainbow Dash, as magically strong as Twilight, and be able to unleash the Stare at will.
I should note I hate the term Mary Sue because it's been used basically to try to bludgeon every OC who shows the hint of competence, or simply characters you don't like, including characters from the show itself!Last edited by EsperDerek; 2011-07-12 at 09:56 PM.
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Ever a character like that would be bearable, done right.
For instance, make them a legit superhero, so it'd be more acceptable.
Or, that'd be GREAT for a villain character. A pony the whole cast would have to get clever with to beat in a fight.
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2011-07-12, 09:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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You're right! I'll start on it right away!
SpoilerYou...were talking about a pirate version of Midnight, right?
Just don't seriously expect me to do this because I have no artistic aptitude, and more often than not, any time I try, I just end up being so critical of myself that I give up out of frustration.
Before I forget, since I'm kinda absentminded like that, just want to say great interview. He is a shrewd one, building anticipation for season two with his "Mega-Spoilers" comment. I mean, you can't just bring something like that up and just leave us hanging. Also, I'd love to give you all my internets, but I have none right now.
With that said, I'm gonna catch up on the rest of the thread(Pages 42 onward) tomorrow, but for now, I need sleep.
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2011-07-12, 10:03 PM (ISO 8601)
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Hmmmm... Im going to need pre-readers then to make sure i dont go
super novamary sue.
ITs quite easy for me to do that sometimes, especially in roleplays. Its it an effective mary sue avoidance to make a team that draws on eachothers skills? or is that basically the same thing?ADVENTURE!!!!!
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2011-07-12, 10:05 PM (ISO 8601)
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A classical Mary Sue is someone that draws attention away from where the audience wants it. That's what makes them turn on the Sue.
For instance, Wesley on Star Trek: The Next Generation. You have an entire crew full of cool grown ups, including aliens, cyborgs, experienced officers, robots and the like.
And yet, many plots were solved by the teenager who Gene Rodenberry admitted was sort of his author insert.
Make us care about Ponyard and he won't be a mary sue; he'll be that cool character we like.Last edited by darthbobcat; 2011-07-12 at 10:06 PM.
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2011-07-12, 10:06 PM (ISO 8601)
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I like the look of this pony, who I think is Apple Cinnamon Crisp.
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2011-07-12, 10:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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Found myself with a bit of time, so I decided to finally get on that nitpicking of Semper Fidelis I've been putting off:
Spoiler"Oh well, too late to back out now."
-It's odd that this line is spoken when everything before this is all internal dialogue.
Apparently he'd failed because Big Macintosh's expression hardened ever so slightly.
-Comma between "failed" and "because", though I'm not 100% sure on that
The dozing elder pony in the rocking chair in the corner looked up, smiled pleasantly at Soarin and then dozed off again.
-Odd to use "The" when it's the first time we've seen her. "A" would be more appropriate. (And the award for biggest nitpick ever goes to...)
Soarin decided to address little pony; he was worried she'd explode from bottled up excitement if he didn't acknowledge her soon.
-"bottled-up"
Applejack talks about you all the time. It sounded so romantic!
-I think this should be "sounds so romantic". Otherwise, the change in tense is weird.
Well one night, Rainbow Dash came over with a whole bunch of flying magazines and stuff and they just talked about you all night and giggled.
-Comma after "well"
Soarin's face burned again; seemingly oblivious, Apple Bloom rubbed her chin thoughtfully.
-I think that should be a period, not a semicolon. Just make the second half its own sentence.
You said in Pony Beat that y'all like red furred fillies
-"red-furred"
Soarin was glad he wasn't on the receiving end; it reminded him of his old drill sergeant. Oh nuts, now it was his turn to be on the receiving end.
-I think the repetition is intentional, but I'm just drawing your attention to it in case it isn't. I think it works as is.
Soarin liked telling the story, but those big doe eyes of hers made him feel bad for the slightest delay.
-It's a little odd to use "but" here. It seems to imply that he wouldn't tell the story so readily if it hadn't been for Apple Bloom.
"Big Macintosh said"
-You use this phrase a bit, you may want to add more description, or just leave it out. Compared to your other "who's saying the next line" phrases, it's kinda bland.
Satisfied that his wings were ready for another cross country flight, Soarin went to collect his saddlebag
-"cross-country"
It's like an itch I can't scratch, some days.
-Your call, but it reads a little odd to put "some days" at the end of the sentence.
Tears welled up in her eyes. The little filly's tear filled eyes made him want to cry too, but he restrained himself.
-Maybe take out the first sentence. The second one makes it redundant.
"Wait what?"
-comma after "wait", unless you want this to be a fast line.
which contrasted oddly with her still puffy eyes.
-"still-puffy"
I'm developing a game. Let's see what happens! Complex.
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After a trip to the grocery store and a complete failure of will on my part, I've decided that Star Crunches would be Pinkie's favorite Little Debby. So much delicious sweetness. Sweetness packed in sweetness, plus oatmeal!
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2011-07-12, 10:25 PM (ISO 8601)
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Okay, I'm finally all caught up. This calls for a quotestorm! Unfortunately, due to my slapdash methodology, the quotes aren't exactly going to be posted in the order they were made.
[Peppermint Twist]Please thir, can I have thome linkth?[/Peppermint Twist]
Dash it all! Now I have to take time out of my busy schedule to hunt down Kyouhen and steal his pillow!
I suppose I could settle for simply saying "That's awesome," but doesn't end up with me having an awesome pillow. Hmm... Decisions, decisions, decisions.
1) I'm not quite sure. At the very least, it does seem a bit less spread out than Ponyville.
2) Public, definitely public.
3) Looking at Rainbow Dash's castle, I'd be inclined to say that they use rainbows for walkways. It's a pity that rainbows seem to be liquid.
4) I vote for standard clouds with some enchanted objects that can support non-enchanted objects. (The cloud-walking spell used by Twilight is a variation on this.)
5) I saw that you seem to have chosen to go with Sky-Venice, but I'll throw this out there anyway. I see Cloudsdale as something somewhat analogous to a small island. Most of it is commercial or industrial with very few actual residential zones. It is, however, surrounded by a veritable fleet of houseboats. Please note that I have no idea where I pulled this idea out of and it doesn't exactly match what we see when Dash and Fluttershy are approaching the city. I still like the idea, though I've probably butchered my explanation of it.
6) I'll just note that I agree with Trixie's answer.
7) I'm not sure, so I'll counter with a question of my own: does Cloudsdale have the only weather factory in all of Equestria, or are there others?
8) Probably pretty close. I can't imagine that Twilight's ballon is all that fast, and they showed up not all that long after Rainbow and Fluttershy.
9) I'm going to go with no, solely because there was no evidence of such a thing when Fillyshy fell during the pegasus race.
10) Well, if it is the sole weather factory in Equestria, I'd imagine it would move around to better deal with severely troubled weather. If there are more weather factories, then they're probably spread out to give all of Equestria sufficient coverage that they don't need to move around.
Sorry I missed this earlier. You have no idea how glad I am that I only missed a week. You guys have a posting rate that's absolutely insane.
You'd think so, but my gaming group never quite seems to cooperate.:P
You have no idea how much I can empathize with this, right now.
Ye've nary a clue how sad I am that BEST PONY is tied for last. Oh well, at least she's not alone down there at the bottom.
Huh, I wonder what it says about me that I find her the easiest to identify with. I think it may be that she's pretty much a paragon of one of the core tenets of my personal philosophy. (Not THE core tenet, mind you, but one of the rather important ones nonetheless.) There's a reason that, back when we were still in season one, I went silent for a little while in this thread after Party of One was aired.
*Snerk* Is it bad that I hummed along while reading that?
Germaney?
Do it!Do it!Do it!Do it!Do it!Do it!Do it!Do it!
If you do write this up, may I suggest that the title be altered to the Court'ship of Princess Luna?
Hooray for prereaders!
You know, were I better on the execution aspect of things, I'd take you up on that challenge.
EDIT: It took four days to catch up on pony thread. Now, time for me to hit the webcomics!Last edited by Gadora; 2011-07-12 at 10:29 PM.
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2011-07-12, 10:31 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-07-12, 10:32 PM (ISO 8601)
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So, this thread is in it's death throes. Boots and bikinis, I hardly knew ye despite powering the predominant thread trend. I suggest *sip* GOTCHA! for the next title if it hasn't already been used. (seriously, has it? Wow, I can't remember).
So hey, what are the defining features of a hippogrif, specifically in FiM style? So far I've got a smaller, horse-ier beak and feather tufts on the ends of the ears. Oh, and eagle claws for the forelegs.
But I can't find a picture of Gilda for the life of me that isn't fan-drawn. Are there any differences in proportions, wing structure, body, frame or physical makeup?
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2011-07-12, 10:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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I saw this one picture of Gilda as a Pegasus I liked; the only hint of her Griffon nature was some head feathers and her coloring. Which I guess would be more like an octaroon Hippogriff.
And she's considerably larger and longer than a Pegasus.
Note the size difference. She's DEFINITELY more than 2 1/2 feet at the shoulder.
... heck, in mid roar, she looks like she could swallow Fluttershy in one gulp.Last edited by darthbobcat; 2011-07-12 at 10:35 PM.
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2011-07-12, 10:37 PM (ISO 8601)
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That's good. It would be weird for both sets of parents to be dead, and explains why Rarity needing to look after Sweetie Belle doesn't get in the way often, only in cases where plot demands it. (Like in Stare Master.)
"Rarity, darling, your father and I need to go to Manehattan for the weekend. We know Sweetie wanted to have a sleepover, do you think you could handle it?"
"Of course mumsy. Kiss kiss."
Meanwhile, with Applejack and Apple Bloom, when Applejack has been shrunk due to the poison joke, and she's threatening her little sister with going to a higher authority, she says she'll tell Macintosh on her. It sure sounds like her parents passed away.
The other characters are all also adults, so their parents could easily be alive but living elsewhere. Pinkie's parents still have a rock farm to tend to, after all. Fluttershy's and Rainbow Dash's parents might still live in/near Cloudsdale. Twilight's parents probably don't talk to her anymore because she likes Princess Celestia better. (I joke, I joke... but you think she could write home!)Thanks to zegma for my awesome avatar.
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That little "kiss kiss" so makes me want to come up with personalities for her parents. I suspect at least one of them is a dress maker/clothes maker, because little Rarity was seen in what looked like the Carousel Boutique.
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2011-07-12, 10:49 PM (ISO 8601)
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I was imagining somewhat upper-class, with upper-class sensibilities, but not narcissists. (Since they seem to have raised Rarity pretty well.)
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could you use your fancy math'matics to whip up a height to length comparison? I suspect Gilda is proportionately longer/shorter than an equally sized pony. But her massive, manticore-esque chest makes it hard to tell.
It also adds a small touch of verisimilitude which I find pleasing.
Also, a belated Hi Irbis! Dive on in, the pony's fine this time o' thread.
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Literally told by her mentor to 'get a life'.
Enrolled into a magic academy because she got lucky and had the rainboom/friendship channel happen during the test.
In what equates to a high-school clique. If there isn't an episode about exclusion in season two, I'll eat my hat.
The point is, usually Mary Sues are one-dimensional. Twilight stands out as pretty much a textbook example of iNTP Myers-Briggs.
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Oh god eight pages
... and I forgot to multi-quote every post I needed to respond to.
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Yeah, Mask's a total tosspot. I don't know why we keep that guy around.
I think the former.
I considered applying context, some sort of metastory, but I'm not sure it'd add anything. In my mind, it's the Cutie Mark Crusaders going around and asking everypony (Weirdly enough, this grew out of my RD-Doesn't-Understand-Biology fic concept.)
If the Fox had a dapper suit then his sheer stylishness would mean that it was impossible for anypony to withstand him.
Pure truth; My Little Pony as a case in point.Last edited by Thanqol; 2011-07-12 at 11:03 PM.
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There are ideas, however, that are extremely difficult to do well, and would benefit from experience. Case in point: Cartoons about ponies.
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Well this took a nasty turn...
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