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2012-10-07, 04:57 PM (ISO 8601)
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Do charges provoke?
In the PHB page 141, the chart says that charges do not provoke attacks of opportunity.
Does that mean that the movement from charges do not provoke attacks of opportunity?
If I'm holding a reach weapon and I get charged, does my enemy provoke? There's nothing in the actual text of charge that says anything about avoid AoOs.
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2012-10-07, 05:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Do charges provoke?
Charging does not provoke attacks of opportunity from anything. However, a readied action with a weapon with reach, or breach, can get around that rule, I believe.
I'm under the impression that Halberds are very good at stopping chargers. It all depends on how lengthy the weapon is, and whether or not you have breach.
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2012-10-07, 05:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Do charges provoke?
Relevant footnote is relevant:
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2012-10-07, 05:38 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Do charges provoke?
Tuggyne has the right of it. The Rules Compendium is even clearer than the SRD that while the charge itself does not provoke (as, for instance, a Bull Rush does), you "provoke attacks of opportunity as normal for your movement" (p. 27).
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2012-10-07, 05:40 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Do charges provoke?
Also, you can ready an action to attack someone when they charge, which does the same thing, effectively. Halberds, tridents and some other weapons deal extra damage when used this way.
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2012-10-07, 06:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Do charges provoke?
In the case of a hostile third party, whose threat range you move through whilst charging, if you exit a threatened square whilst charging then that still provokes.
This is due to the same footnote (1 on page 141).π = 4
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2017-07-02, 07:10 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Do charges provoke?
So here's the question. Charge does not provoke..That's clear. Now the question is, IF a player has a 15 foot reach, does he have an AoO. I'm not talking about a 3rd party. 3rd parties do get AoO. Again 3rd parties do get AoO. I'm talking about the 15 foot reach player that is being charged. Regardless of his 15 foot reach, the monster is still charging which negates the 15 foot reach AoO. So the player is under the assumption that Charge does not provoke AoO but the REACH does. I say charge negates the reach AoO.
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2017-07-02, 07:59 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Do charges provoke?
.....wut? I'm having a hard time parsing your question. The AoO from a charge doesn't exist, only the AoO from the movement during a charge. Any party that threatens a square the charger moves out of gets an AoO. This includes the person getting charged. Whether they can actually take advantage of this will depend on the relative reaches between them and the charger.
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2017-07-02, 08:07 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Do charges provoke?
Yes.
Let's say a barbarian armed with a scimitar charges a legionnaire armed with a longspear. The legionnaire has reach 10' and so threatens the squares 10' away from him. The barbarian charges:
1: The barbarian enters the threatened square. This does not provoke an attack of opportunity because charges don't. However, the barbarian cannot reach his target, so he continues
2: The barbarian leaves the threatened square. This DOES provoke an attack of opportunity from the legionnaire because the barbarian is leaving a threatened square. Note that unless the spear had been set against a charge (or the legionnaire is wearing steadfast boots), the spear does not receive extra damage.
3: Assuming the barbarian survives, the barbarian enters the adjacent square to the legionnaire and gets his charge attack because he can now reach his target.
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2017-07-02, 08:39 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Do charges provoke?
If I have a 15 foot reach, and you charge to within 10 feet of me, I get an attack of opportunity on you. I do NOT get an attack because you charged, I get an attack because you lefts a square I was threatening. Charging does not negate that AoO, it simply doesn't provoke another one.
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2017-07-02, 09:04 AM (ISO 8601)
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2017-07-02, 09:09 AM (ISO 8601)
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I guess you guys are right. Tnx for the explanation.
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2017-07-02, 09:58 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Do charges provoke?
Some special attacks, such as grapple, provoke at AoO from the person you're using them against (unless you've got a way around that, such as a Feat). Charging does not inherently provoke an AoO like those other attacks, not automatically, however it can still provoke one for the movement portion of the action (as normal for movement). This is what the entry on that chart is telling us.