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Thread: Ways to fake your alignment?
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2012-10-02, 10:45 PM (ISO 8601)
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Ways to fake your alignment?
Chaos, Law, Righteousness, Damnation, Neutrality; Each combines with another in unique ways, with nine possible combinations in existence. These combinations, however, can be faked...
While looking through the Fiendish Codices, I ran into some beautiful things that allow you to fake your alignment: Ordered Chaos (Chaotic alignment) and Hellbred (Evil alignment). Now I'm wondering about ways to get the other two alignment components faked. Anybody know?
Now, I'm getting the feeling you might be curious as to why I want all four alignment components at once. My reason is this: there are some class features that give benefits depending on one's alignment (ex. Incarnate Avatar, etc.), some of which would be nice to possess at the same time as the rest. I've found half, just need the other half. Again, anybody know?
Thanks in advance.Incarnum: VoP's best (and possibly only) friend.
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2012-10-03, 01:17 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Ways to fake your alignment?
At first I assumed you were trying to give misleading results to detect X spells etc, but this is a lot trickier.... Do alignment subtypes help at all? (I doubt they do, sadly.)
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2012-10-03, 01:43 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Ways to fake your alignment?
Doug
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2012-10-03, 02:42 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Ways to fake your alignment?
Projects: Homebrew, Gentlemen's Agreement, DMPCs, Forbidden Knowledge safety, and Top Ten Worst. Also, Quotes and RACSD are good.
Anyone knows blue is for sarcas'ing in · "Take 10 SAN damage from Dark Orchid" · Use of gray may indicate nitpicking · Green is sincerity
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2012-10-03, 02:55 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Ways to fake your alignment?
Doug
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2012-10-06, 06:01 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Ways to fake your alignment?
Ordered chaos only lets you keep a non-chaotic alignment no matter how may AbHe feats you take, spells and effects treat you as chaotic and you can take Primordial scion ONLY regardless of your alignment.
Hellbred only lets you cast evil spells and wield evil magic items.
Sorry, but that's the RAW. No alignment spoofing for anything other than stated.Open the lid and snatch a homebrewed treat from Cookie's Jar
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2012-10-06, 06:35 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Ways to fake your alignment?
This is one of the reasons why Bluff is one of my favorite skills
Haley, pretty much explains why it's basically an At will Wish with no XP cost!Larloch, The Shadow King (w/ Ioun Stones) avatar by Iron Penguin
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2012-10-06, 07:18 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Ways to fake your alignment?
There is an Horizon Walker Planer Trait which allows you to conceal your alignment from spells; such as Holy Word etc.
π = 4
Consider a 5' radius blast: this affects 4 squares which have a circumference of 40' — Actually it's worse than that.
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2012-10-06, 07:19 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Ways to fake your alignment?
You could have a "friendly" caster ready with a Mindrape. Pretty powerful (and very evil) stuff, though.
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2012-10-06, 08:16 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Ways to fake your alignment?
Well, Master of Masks could make your alignment appear as Any/N and N/N depending on which mask you wear, but... I don't think it fools class features....
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2012-10-06, 09:27 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Ways to fake your alignment?
Having just re-read the book: the Horizon Walker (Aligned) Planer Terrain Mastery makes you immune to spells and abilities which target specific alignments, so no negative levels for Holy swords etc.
It also covers the effects of aligned planes.Last edited by nedz; 2012-10-06 at 09:28 AM.
π = 4
Consider a 5' radius blast: this affects 4 squares which have a circumference of 40' — Actually it's worse than that.
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2012-10-06, 12:17 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Ways to fake your alignment?
Don't the Evil/Good subtypes qualify you for stuff without changing your alignment?
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2012-10-06, 03:41 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Ways to fake your alignment?
"Any effect that depends on alignment affects a creature with this subtype as if the creature has a <good, evil, lawful, chaotic> alignment, no matter what its alignment actually is."
If you consider class features "effects", sure. I find that interpretation somewhat dubious.
The same, except more so; it only applies to "alignment-sensing" effects. Almost certainly not going to work. (If you believe Rage is an alignment-sensing effect, I have a trick with ring gates to sell you....)Projects: Homebrew, Gentlemen's Agreement, DMPCs, Forbidden Knowledge safety, and Top Ten Worst. Also, Quotes and RACSD are good.
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2012-10-06, 10:39 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Ways to fake your alignment?
Wasn't there one build which managed to have every alignment (Lawful, Chaotic, Evil, Good) at once?
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2012-10-07, 12:27 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Ways to fake your alignment?
Succubus Paladin does (I think), they get chaotic and evil as racial alignment even if they have been redeemed, becoming a Paladin adds the lawful and good (strictly speaking the paladin isn't necessary). Withe the Succubus Paladin they have an aura of each alignment..
Doug
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2012-10-07, 12:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Ways to fake your alignment?
The Word, part of a duo, and I'm not really convinced it's legal though.See when a tree falls in the forest, and there's no one there to hear it, you can bet we've bought the vinyl.
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