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[Balmas]

I tried to be strong ponythread. I really did.

But I finally broke down and peeked.

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My gut instinct is to say that it's fake. That synopsis reads really weird, like it's almost too direct. I can see that being nearly half the episode given away right there. But with only an unverified line from a website to go off of, not much else I can say.

If it's real...hooooo boy will this be an episode and a half, one way or another.

Achievement Get: Break the Pirate

[Deadly]

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*tongue in cheek
Well, if it's a two parter, Sleepless in Ponyville sounds like it could be a romance episode.... Twixie!!!!

Shippers gonna Ship!

Heh, that'd be So Awesome /)^3^(\ But probably not

Personally I'm predicting that episode 6 will be a Rarity episode

[Metahuman1]

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I'm okay with status quo, so long as they don't just justify it by saying that Twilight had the flu.

On that note, Trixiiiiie! [/fanjoy]

Wait, do we know about episode six yet? Because this sounds like a potential two-parter.

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Actually, that's really the only way I'd be ok with Trixie Winning a head on match with Twilight. Sorta like how I hated when the changeling queen beat Celestia and just said, "haha, guess I've gotten stronger then I realized."

To me, it should have been that everyone though she'd been under the weather for awhile, and then the changeling queen reveled that she'd been having one of her minions in the kitchen feed her small doses of a potion to zap her strength for awhile now, so that when the confrontation did come she could win.

[Tiki Snakes]

I tried to be strong ponythread. I really did.

But I finally broke down and peeked.

Still not peakin'.

[Deadly]

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Actually, that's really the only way I'd be ok with Trixie Winning a head on match with Twilight. Sorta like how I hated when the changeling queen beat Celestia and just said, "haha, guess I've gotten stronger then I realized."

To me, it should have been that everyone though she'd been under the weather for awhile, and then the changeling queen reveled that she'd been having one of her minions in the kitchen feed her small doses of a potion to zap her strength for awhile now, so that when the confrontation did come she could win.

Better spoiler that

Also, I agree

[Kd7sov]

For Fluttershy to have an Earth Pony parent would also mean she probably was raised by a single parent. Because the implication is that, pre-sonic-rainboom, she'd never really visited the ground/been outside of Cloudsdale.

Which is to say, slightly less likely than having canon confirmation of Orphanjack.

Slightly less likely? Slightly?

You realize, of course, that apart from Pound Cake and the implications of Thunderlane and Rumble, there has been not one official word about pegasus families? Both of the unicorns in the mane six have parents, and a sibling each; both the earth ponies (assuming Pinkie's story is basically accurate) have siblings, and Pinkie has parents and AJ has plenty of other relatives; but neither Fluttershy nor Rainbow Dash has any family. Indeed, Fluttershy is not observed to be acquainted with any pony outside the mane six, apart from those few like Photo Finish that she meets in the course of an episode. And Rainbow Dash isn't much better off; she's got some notoriety even before MMDW, and seems to be known by the Ponyville weatherstaff, Gilda, and the Cloudsdale Jocks, but that's it. (For reference: Pinkie knows everypony, Rarity's got plenty of high-profile clients, Applejack has family all over the place and is generally amiable and gets named to both SSC catering and head of the WWU plant team, and Twilight is a shut-in but at least has family.)

[Lix Lorn]

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*fwoosh*

*is now mostly dead and on fire from acute flustering*

Quick! Someone fetch Miracle Marex! We can't let Prince Humbluedinck win!

[Soras Teva Gee]

So who's marathoning pony in anticipation of Saturday?

Eight episodes into season one. Look Before You Sleep is funnier then I remembered.

(Also Tara Strong is also totally doing Batgirl from SBFF... its funny)

[Kairaven]

I kept seeing this "implication" of Thunderlane and Rumble..... What are you talking about? What's the implication?

edit: never mind, it's implying that pegasus has families. But of course they do.

double edit: great... now I got blood purity in my head, and all I can think about is unicorn deatheaters.
dustblood and featherblood

[Anarion]

Slightly less likely? Slightly?

You realize, of course, that apart from Pound Cake and the implications of Thunderlane and Rumble, there has been not one official word about pegasus families?

I think it's clear at this point that Pegasi come from a communal culture that collectively raises their children in a combination of Greco-Roman aesthetics and competitive racing. All pegasi are thrown into a giant cloud pool upon birth, and are jointly cared for by a collection of weather mares and stallions that feed them indirectly via cloud transport. The babies learn independence and are then weened in their schools and separated by merits and talents.

This, of course, challenges the Western capitalist-democratic paradigm and therefore can't be shown on camera.

Yikes, I'm bored in class today.

[Tiki Snakes]

Slightly less likely? Slightly?

You realize, of course, that apart from Pound Cake and the implications of Thunderlane and Rumble, there has been not one official word about pegasus families? Both of the unicorns in the mane six have parents, and a sibling each; both the earth ponies (assuming Pinkie's story is basically accurate) have siblings, and Pinkie has parents and AJ has plenty of other relatives; but neither Fluttershy nor Rainbow Dash has any family. Indeed, Fluttershy is not observed to be acquainted with any pony outside the mane six, apart from those few like Photo Finish that she meets in the course of an episode. And Rainbow Dash isn't much better off; she's got some notoriety even before MMDW, and seems to be known by the Ponyville weatherstaff, Gilda, and the Cloudsdale Jocks, but that's it. (For reference: Pinkie knows everypony, Rarity's got plenty of high-profile clients, Applejack has family all over the place and is generally amiable and gets named to both SSC catering and head of the WWU plant team, and Twilight is a shut-in but at least has family.)

Well, what I'm saying is that having a pony confirmed as coming from a single parent family/broken home is pretty much on a similar level of unlikely as them confirming that a main character's parents died. Which is to say to the latter, Faust herself pretty much confirmed that we're unlikely to ever see it confirmed even if we can assume that is the best guess of where Applejack's parents are.

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Also, clearly, we'll not meet any pegasus families because The Device at the center of the Rainbow Factory distills pegasus nightmares into rainbows and their entire society is engineered to provide the maximum stress and undermine pegasus confidence and self worth wherever possible. Hence the ruthless focus on competition and physical excellence, the devaluation of family life, the sterile colourless (yet fluffy) archetecture and the subtly encouraged infighting and deriding of other ponies in ones peer-group.

Which is totally my fanon. Not for the show, don't be silly, but for the Rainbow Factory song, sure.

[Balmas]

Better spoiler that

Also, I agree

The way I see it, when canon contradicts fanon, fanon must be changed. So if a hyped up changeling shouldn't be able to beat a sun goddess, but did, then maybe the answer is that she wasn't facing a sun goddess.


Hmmm... Marathon of Pony, potentially dragging in roommates? *goes off to plot*

[Beacon of Chaos]

What's that ponythread? Is that the sound of your precious fanon shattering under the weight of Season 3 spoilers?

Was there ever any doubt?

*long string of profanity and incoherant noises*

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No, wait, will not rage. Clearly Twilight, who is awesome, could never be bested by Trixie, who is not. There is some trick or cheat to this.

The "banished from Ponyville" bit seems weird though. Perhaps they made a bet? Doesn't seem like Twilight would agree to that though.

Although I did see a gif of Michelle Creber dancing the Gunam style horse step.

Sharing is caring, Kai.

Well I will say if nothing else:

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...at least its not poor repentant Trixie seeks to make friends/ammends.

By this anyways.

Hear hear!

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That's one bit of fanon I could do without.

[Deadly]

The way I see it, when canon contradicts fanon, fanon must be changed. So if a hyped up changeling shouldn't be able to beat a sun goddess, but did, then maybe the answer is that she wasn't facing a sun goddess.

Oh, it's more a matter of how she beat her. Just plain overpowering Celestia in a magic beam war was pretty disappointing, made worse by the rather boring explanation of "Chrysalis was super-charged on the Power of Love, which as every kid knows conquers All!"

[BlasTech]

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Still not peakin'.

Neither am I.

So thank you all for maintaining the carefully labelled spoiler boxes. Easiset page of ponythread to skip over read through in a long time XD

[Kairaven]

Sharing is caring, Kai.

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[Beacon of Chaos]

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And something so cute it will shred your internal organs into bits (also non-spoiler)

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EDIT @ Kairaven: Hahaha! Awesome!

[Anarion]

Ah, there's the EQLA coverage starting to flow out. Interesting news that Mandopony has joined the show's music staff.

The way I see it, when canon contradicts fanon, fanon must be changed. So if a hyped up changeling shouldn't be able to beat a sun goddess, but did, then maybe the answer is that she wasn't facing a sun goddess.

I completely agree, but you're going the wrong way. Obviously, she was fighting a sun goddess and the power of love was just so pure from Shining Armor that it gave Chrysalis the power to overcome anything at that moment. He subsequent lack of doing anything about the fact that Twilight is freeing anyone is because she actually used up 99.9% of her power to beat Celestia there and was just bluffing the rest of the way.

What's that counterargument? La la la, I can't hear you!

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No, wait, will not rage. Clearly Twilight, who is awesome, could never be bested by Trixie, who is not. There is some trick or cheat to this.

The "banished from Ponyville" bit seems weird though. Perhaps they made a bet? Doesn't seem like Twilight would agree to that though.

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As I mentioned above, I think that the premise being presented is the first half of the episode only. Trixie gets in, she engages in a big duel with Twilight Sparkle, knowing that she's holding some kind of special trump card and takes Twilight by surprise. Twilight then spends the episode figuring out how she lost, going through her banishment, and learning new powers. She comes back and beats Trixie, status quo restored.

[Balmas]

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EDIT @ Kairaven: Hahaha! Awesome!

So. Much. WANT.

That looks a lot like the work of the guy who made the Traveling Pony Museum's guard pegasus. Which inspires a similar amount of want in my brain.

Ah, there's the EQLA coverage starting to flow out. Interesting news that Mandopony has joined the show's music staff.



I completely agree, but you're going the wrong way. Obviously, she was fighting a sun goddess and the power of love was just so pure from Shining Armor that it gave Chrysalis the power to overcome anything at that moment. He subsequent lack of doing anything about the fact that Twilight is freeing anyone is because she actually used up 99.9% of her power to beat Celestia there and was just bluffing the rest of the way.

What's that counterargument? La la la, I can't hear you!



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As I mentioned above, I think that the premise being presented is the first half of the episode only. Trixie gets in, she engages in a big duel with Twilight Sparkle, knowing that she's holding some kind of special trump card and takes Twilight by surprise. Twilight then spends the episode figuring out how she lost, going through her banishment, and learning new powers. She comes back and beats Trixie, status quo restored.

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I'm still curious as to why Trixie has the power to banish Twilight. And all of this seems like too much to happen in one episode.

[DigoDragon]

If there's a hilariously fragile type of fighter perhaps? I could totally see a valiant, red-shirted squadron of Thanqols in leather bomber-jackets and goggles.

Oh! Okay I get it now... I have just the design for this!!

Conspiracy!!!!

I'm reminded of all the crazy easter-egg hunts the project team of Portal 2 did for their fanbase in the months before release of that game.

What's that ponythread? Is that the sound of your precious fanon shattering under the weight of Season 3 spoilers?

No, that was the sound of the shift bell ringing. I get to go home now. Laters!

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*fwoosh*

*is now mostly dead and on fire from acute flustering*

Sweet! Smores on the house!!

[Metahuman1]

Oh, it's more a matter of how she beat her. Just plain overpowering Celestia in a magic beam war was pretty disappointing, made worse by the rather boring explanation of "Chrysalis was super-charged on the Power of Love, which as every kid knows conquers All!"

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Yes, and it wasn't even that it was a boring explanation, it was an explanation that didn't fit. If power of Love Conquers all, Celestia as a loving ruler and teacher should have been able to at least match her. And the whole way the changelings operate lends itself far better too what I suggested as opposed to "Surprise, I'm on psuedo steroids."

Lazy Boring fits more with "Oh, well, Celestia just didn't attack with full power and was caught off guard by how powerful the changelings counter attack was."

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Ok, so, the only way I buy this is if it turns out she cheated or got some serious outside help that was well concealed from Twilight right before hand. discord or the changeling queen or a new villain giving her a super charge works. Or a new badguy.

As for the bet, there gonna have to have giving Trixie quite the Bargaining chip to get Twilight to agree to those terms.

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I want them!!!!

[Ravian]

So I have a problem.

My brother, who first introduced me to MLP but was never as fervent about it as I was, says that he's starting to be turned off of the show. The way he says it is that he likes the show but dislikes the fandom, at least somewhat (for example he not one of those that dislikes the Derpy Hooves phenomenon, but he doesn't read any fanfiction, pony music or anything that really goes beyond the show itself.)

I don't have any problem with not liking the fan fiction or music (though I do have to watch myself sometimes since he has almost zero interest in the fic I just read no matter how amazing I think it is.) but now he's reluctant to even talk about the show, and has exspressed doubts about whether he's going to watch season 3.

I really hope that the summer pony drought is the reason he's gotten lukewarm towards the show and once the season starts up he'll be fine, but I worry that I'm really the problem for him. When I last asked him about his problem with the fandom, I just felt that he was more annoyed at me then bronies and was just using me as an example of bronies as a whole.
I also wonder if he's trying to distance himself from me. He's always been the more extroverted and more concerned about his image, so I just wonder if he's just trying to follow the crowd by distancing himself from the show.

Lately I've been avoiding talking about the show, (no easy feat with the new season so close) but he still seems almost hostile towards the whole thing. Recently I was making a comment on how many pony avatars there were on the forum he was on and he was a little frosty when he said it was hard to avoid the fandom. I thought this was a little unfair considering the topic wasn't at all ponyrelated but I didn't say anything.

What do you guys think? I don't really see myself as incredibly fanatic about MLP (I don't go to conventions, write fanfiction, or even own anything pony-related) and I enjoy talking to him about the show, and I hate to think that I turned someone off of ponies with my behavior.

[Balmas]

So I have a problem.<snip>

I don't think it's anything that you've done. Probably it's just pressure from his friends.

[Maxtronaut]

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So that's what it feels like.

[Pokonic]

I kept seeing this "implication" of Thunderlane and Rumble..... What are you talking about? What's the implication?

edit: never mind, it's implying that pegasus has families. But of course they do.

double edit: great... now I got blood purity in my head, and all I can think about is unicorn deatheaters.
dustblood and featherblood

Doomblood, Snakeblood....


.......


Mudblood.

Well, what I'm saying is that having a pony confirmed as coming from a single parent family/broken home is pretty much on a similar level of unlikely as them confirming that a main character's parents died. Which is to say to the latter, Faust herself pretty much confirmed that we're unlikely to ever see it confirmed even if we can assume that is the best guess of where Applejack's parents are.

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Also, clearly, we'll not meet any pegasus families because The Device at the center of the Rainbow Factory distills pegasus nightmares into rainbows and their entire society is engineered to provide the maximum stress and undermine pegasus confidence and self worth wherever possible. Hence the ruthless focus on competition and physical excellence, the devaluation of family life, the sterile colourless (yet fluffy) archetecture and the subtly encouraged infighting and deriding of other ponies in ones peer-group.

Which is totally my fanon. Not for the show, don't be silly, but for the Rainbow Factory song, sure.

Naw, silly,

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True pegusi children are created by putting rainbows under extreme pressure. The defunct ones are dropped in Ponyville, like Scootaloo and Roid Rage, and they do yearly tests to make sure that the artificial pegusi are not breaking down.

[Aotrs Commander]

Eww. Dash, Twilight and Rarity deserve better.

Hey, Sakura and Ino are cool!

(Although I could be persuaded to Rariten and possibly Derpino.)

But I think Chospike or Spikura are better, since each is sort of the franchise whipping ninja (the former the fanon one, the latter fanon and early series canon (come on, first few arc Sakura is pretty hopeless...!))



Also, expanding on my idea of Sparsuke, the hilarious backstory is she wants revenge on her older brother (Shintachi) for murdering her family, except that it was just a Nightmare Night prank that Sparsuke totally took the wrong way.

"I want revenge on a certain stallion... He killed my parents..."

"No dear, we're over here. We keep telling you we're fine!"

"He killed my parents! And he fled the village and disappeared!"

"He's just out on a long-term mission with his partner, that nice Cadsame, doing undercover work, darling. You really are just overreacting again!"



Also, Kadashi-sensei is just so ludicrously apt I just can't quite fathom it. Share-ingarn Kadashi, the Copy Pony Ninja. Hip and 20% cooler, the loyalty thing, and with ridiculous speed and awesome lightning powers!

Tell me that's not just stupidly awesome, and I'll call you a liar!



You guys realise this is going to just keep getting sillier and silier as he gets more idea, right? You do remember the Northern Spy fiasco, don't you? Stop giving him ideas!

Neither am I.

So thank you all for maintaining the carefully labelled spoiler boxes. Easiset page of ponythread to skip over read through in a long time XD

Likewise.

Oh, it's more a matter of how she beat her. Just plain overpowering Celestia in a magic beam war was pretty disappointing, made worse by the rather boring explanation of "Chrysalis was super-charged on the Power of Love, which as every kid knows conquers All!"

So you're saying that Power of Love isn't the second most powerful force¹ in the universe? And, at that, in a universe where Friendship is an actual, tangible magical force? ('Cos if it ain't true in Equestria , it ain't gonna be true anywhere.)

Really?

Excellent!

Because if that's true, that's a massive, massive hurdle out of our way, and one of the most vaunted weapons of good reduced to nothing more than smoke and mirrors. Victory cannot fail to belong to Evil! Huzzah!



¹The most powerful is, of course, sheer-bloody-minded, determined contrariness, as I well know.

[Tiki Snakes]

You guys realise this is going to just keep getting sillier and silier as he gets more idea, right? You do remember the Northern Spy fiasco, don't you? Stop giving him ideas!

I do not.
Perhaps someone should recap?

[OracleofWuffing]

Sliiiiiding in the New Thread Title discussion, once again, "My Little Pony #, your fannon will ruin season 3!"

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Awwww! Ow, my internal organs.

[Deadly]

So you're saying that Power of Love isn't the second most powerful force¹ in the universe? And, at that, in a universe where Friendship is an actual, tangible magical force? ('Cos if it ain't true in Equestria , it ain't gonna be true anywhere.)

Really?

Excellent!

Because if that's true, that's a massive, massive hurdle out of our way, and one of the most vaunted weapons of good reduced to nothing more than smoke and mirrors. Victory cannot fail to belong to Evil! Huzzah!



¹The most powerful is, of course, sheer-bloody-minded, determined contrariness, as I well know.

Actually, I'd say that (aside from your little note there) that Friendship, not Love, is the most powerful force in the ponyverse. At least, the most powerful known force. The very first episode establishes this, when it says that Celestia harnessed the most powerful magic known to ponykind.

So unless ponykind doesn't know about the power of love, or you want to consider love a part of the power of friendship, friendship is indeed more powerful than love. I like that, I like that friendship beats love, in the sense that love is a sort of very specific, limited force, perhaps only useful or available in very special circumstances, while friendship is universal.

There's also the possible friendship lesson about not letting love take over and make you neglect your friends, or the lesson about love for all above love for one which is sort of the same lesson, I suppose, depending on the exact context. Love could be a powerful force, but also one that might be twisted to something harmful.

So, in conclusion, Friendship > Love.