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2008-05-10, 12:22 PM (ISO 8601)
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Keep on the Shadowfell preview characters
Scans of the character sheets from the Keep on the Shadowfell preview.
Dwarf fighter
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Human wizard
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Half-Elf Cleric of Bahamut
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Dragonborn Paladin
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Halfing Rogue
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They are not pretty, but quite ledgable.
Before anyone gets upset, they were originaly linked over on gleemax so if WotC have a problem with it they have a funny way of expressing it.
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2008-05-10, 12:47 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Keep on the Shadowfell preview characters
Yeah, I was just up at my local game store and we were going over the preview (quick-start) rules and his Dragon Born Paladin.
Its...s o...awesome...
EDIT: After reading them all, and the various powers that come at 2nd and 3rd level... I'm hooked more than before. Cure Light Wounds, Cleric Utility Power... Target regains HP as if it had spent a healing surge. Backstabber Feat (Sneak attack damage is d8s instead of d6s)Last edited by SamTheCleric; 2008-05-10 at 12:54 PM.
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2008-05-10, 12:54 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Keep on the Shadowfell preview characters
Less new stuff than I expected. Overall, I doubt it'll make anyone like 4ed more or less.
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2008-05-10, 12:55 PM (ISO 8601)
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2008-05-10, 12:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Keep on the Shadowfell preview characters
Just out of curiosity, exactly what have you seen there that caused this reaction? All I got from the previews Charity posted was "huh, so characters can do this and this" and the mild distaste after seeing yet another Dragonborn. Is there something in the preview that's so awesome(as the nearest gaming store is about 200 km from here, it's not like I'm going to read it anyway)?
Last edited by Morty; 2008-05-10 at 01:00 PM.
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2008-05-10, 01:01 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Keep on the Shadowfell preview characters
That the system seems to keep working two levels up from level 1. Which is R0XX0RZ, considering by level three you were screwed by a Batman Wizard, en previous editions.
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2008-05-10, 01:03 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Keep on the Shadowfell preview characters
Well, we get our first look at Utility Powers.
Tumble, Rogue Utility Power. You shift 3 squares.
We get our first look at actual levelling, as all the pregenerated characters have rules for level 2 and 3. This also includes powers for level 2 and 3 that we have not previously seen.
Mostly, for me, it's the cure light wounds. Everyone was wondering if the healing would be completely reliant on Healing Surges... or the Cleric using your healing surges for you. Its not. Cure Light Wounds just heals you, just like a spell should. That's huge news.
From the 5 people that played the preview last night... the game runs really smoothly and it feels like you're playing D&D. That's what got them most, they felt like they were playing a streamlined version of D&D. The only complaint came from the store manager when he said that the healing surges were a little over the top... to which he retracted when I pointed to the rule that you can only use one healing surge per encounter as a Second Wind, unless you have a power that explicitly states otherwise.
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2008-05-10, 01:06 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Keep on the Shadowfell preview characters
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2008-05-10, 01:09 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Keep on the Shadowfell preview characters
Oh... if its already been shown... could you point me to the link for the utility powers? Tumble, Expeditious Retreat, Cure Light Wounds, Unstoppable... those all sound great to me.
EDIT: That comes off sound snarky... I don't mean it to be. I'm honestly curious, if you've seen this before, I'd like to see the rest of it.Last edited by SamTheCleric; 2008-05-10 at 01:11 PM.
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2008-05-10, 01:09 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Keep on the Shadowfell preview characters
Tellat to the munchkin who loaded up in Sleeps, Color Sprays, Webs, and Greases. Everyone else felt COMPLETELY useless, because the guy took a done and a half tricks to get insane Init.
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2008-05-10, 01:10 PM (ISO 8601)
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2008-05-10, 01:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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2008-05-10, 01:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Keep on the Shadowfell preview characters
Last edited by SamTheCleric; 2008-05-10 at 01:12 PM.
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2008-05-10, 01:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Keep on the Shadowfell preview characters
Yeah, and powers. I'm still scared by the Angel of Vengeance, but with a few tweaks, a character could easily stand up to it and say "Get ovah here if ya think ye're so tough, *****!".
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2008-05-10, 01:14 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Keep on the Shadowfell preview characters
Human Bonuses: One extra at-will power, feat, trained skill, +1 to fortitude, reflex and will defenses
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2008-05-10, 01:15 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Keep on the Shadowfell preview characters
As it's been said, Tubmle appears in Rogue preview. Others don't appear anywhere, but, well, those are just powers. We sort of know they're going to be there and that they'll look in a certain way.
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2008-05-10, 01:17 PM (ISO 8601)
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2008-05-10, 01:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Keep on the Shadowfell preview characters
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2008-05-10, 01:20 PM (ISO 8601)
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2008-05-10, 01:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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2008-05-10, 01:26 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Keep on the Shadowfell preview characters
Yeah, I know you're talking about munchkined wizard. However, wizards need really heavy twinking out to be really gamebreaking on low levels, at which point it becomes more of a player problem. Now, on high levels when wizards start to dominate without even trying, things look different.
Anyway, I belive that saying that 3ed "stops working" on 3rd level is a stretch.Last edited by Morty; 2008-05-10 at 01:27 PM.
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2008-05-10, 01:33 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Keep on the Shadowfell preview characters
Okay, you're right there, it doesn't stop working. Let's say it starts showing signs of stress. It actually breaks at level 7 (Or 5 with Artificers).
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2008-05-10, 01:34 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Keep on the Shadowfell preview characters
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2008-05-10, 01:47 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Keep on the Shadowfell preview characters
Yeah, it's one of the biggest draws, along with useful multiclassing. Personally, I think they'll make it, at least for the core. Later on, we WILL get some crap which will wreak everything up, but I believe it'll initially work.
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2008-05-10, 05:02 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Keep on the Shadowfell preview characters
The only thing that I do not like, is that it appears that wizards will only learn new spells by leveling. So they completely lost their "learn from scrolls and prepare what you wish" flavor. Hmm they are basically sorcerers now, but probably with even less spells known(compared to 3.5 sorcerers) as they get more levels.
Although I may be wrong, that spellbook ability seems as it could be expended in ways other then leveling.Characters:
Daren (necromancer)
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2008-05-10, 05:04 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Keep on the Shadowfell preview characters
It makes sense, though. If you allow the spellbook learning gimmick, a wizard has MANY more powers than others, nulling every effort to keep the balance together. Don't tell me you'd prefer Batman Wizards again, because that's what allowing power expansion for wizards only would do.
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2008-05-10, 05:37 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Keep on the Shadowfell preview characters
I'll agree that this is interesting, but nothing wildly new. It's hard not to buy in to a bit of expectant excitement, though.
It has sort of changed my mind about my first 4e character. I was all set on adapting a drow warlord, now I think I'll go human fighter or cleric. I'll probably change my mind again when I see the PHB, though.
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2008-05-10, 06:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Keep on the Shadowfell preview characters
A wizard would not have many more powers, he would have the same amount as others, just with ability to change some of them every day. And power of batman wizards did not came much from their ability to change their spells, it came from the power of specific spells, and the way spells worked in general.
But even if options were a big advantage, they reworked all spells anyway, so I don't think that it would have been hard to make those additional bonuses balanced (they would mostly be fluff anyway).Characters:
Daren (necromancer)
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2008-05-10, 06:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Keep on the Shadowfell preview characters
Simplicity. Why the hell make a complicated to balance system that will be broken by the first splatbook? Much better to give wizards equal opportunities to normal warriors, not extra goodies.
Else, a warrior can switch from one lifelong combat style to another. It's only fair game.
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2008-05-10, 06:36 PM (ISO 8601)
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