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    And I liked Iron Will for that very reason. Does he even actually count as an antagonist? I swear my favourite part about him is when he's leaving Fluttershy's house and starts talking about adding "No means no" to his next seminar. He stops being the big tough guy and starts just being someone trying to give ponies advice.

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    Not realy. I mean, Trixie was a show off, which made her fare game for a show for little girls. The Dragons both had a physical threat, and the Flim Flam's where that close to getting the apples farm vi buying them out. Along with Gilda and Discord, nearly every speaking antagonist was not only arrogent, but also a trickster of some kind. Yes, that even includes Gilda (after all, she was a friend of Dash. It comes with the territory). Also, they each opposed the Main Six in some way, it be in humiliating them, twisting around there personalities, being a general arse to one or more of the cast (This is the main reason Gilda is on this list, folks).

    Iron Will honastly thought his methods worked, and he wanted the money that he thought belonged to him. After all, apperently no one has refused to pay before, and going from his shock from Flutters refusing to pay he thought that he was honastly doing something to help. It's like a man who has been selling "Extra Whiting Toothpaste" all his life being told by his newest model that the stuff has never worked and that the only reason people bought it was because they falsely thought they needed it. Going from what he says as he left, he is actualy going to try a bit harder of the whole "helping" part.
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    So off the current topic, what's everyone's favorite fan-insanity personality?

    Trollestia?
    Vinyl/Octavia odd couple?
    Sweetie-bot?
    Hand-wanting Lyra?
    Stalker Lyra?
    Geek Luna?
    All of them.

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    Or drawing it, that sometimes works, but it's more work than the mind-purging.
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    There is a simple fix to this dilemma, as with most things you regret not doing: purging it from your mind forever and leaving it as a lost cause.

    Or drawing it, that sometimes works, but it's more work than the mind-purging.
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    well, sounds like I have a plan then.

    That plan is, of course, spend tomorrow and the resulting times playing a new video game, occasionally checking for PA updates and pony episodes and, apparently, drawing Arabian/turkish/ottoman/"I'm too American to know the proper cultural label" fashion.

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    Yeah, that is fabulous.
    Sadly, part of the original Secret Project plan - to do it in 25mm and 12mm, has somewhat fallen apart, as now I've had chance to experiment with the finalised model, the 25mm model is like $80 from Shapeways, and the other place I was hoping to get it done is a bit strange on their pricing. The wargames company that's using that 3D printing company is flogging off their models in 72nd at £16 a go, and their 144 at a £5 (which means the must be paying less); I'd expected my models, being about 1.5-3 times the size (i.e. volume), to be about the proportion more expensive; instead they quoted me at what worked out to £86 per tank. So I'm not quite sure how the wargames company is doing (because I find it hard to believe they're ordering hundreds of each model to spend thousands of pounds of orders or something, and havign huge stock-keeping costs); I don't think there's that much demand for wargames models... I suspect there must be a dirty deal somewhere, because what they're quoting me isn't even in the same order of magnitude.

    So Secret Project is going to be regretfully shelved for the moment, while I work on a plan B.



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    I liked it...

    Wait, does that mean I live somewhere that isn't in the known world? AM I AN EXPLORER?!
    ...I need a Daring Do set of ponymotes. Maybe I'll try making some today.
    I liked it too, if it wasn't one of the best episodes.

    However, as I am, of course, located in space, Bobcat's statement is correct in regards to me...

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    And we've taken a break from me DMing, and we're playing a 4E game (while I'm not a huge fan of 4E, I din't mind so much when I'm playing, especially as it gives me a break). So we spent the first half of the session trying to remember what everything did after not playing for two years... And then, by the end of the session, my laser cleric was back on form, unable to hit fracking anything as usual, despite rolling the same dice as the wizard I'm also playing. That girl is cursed... (There's a reason she had Elven Inaccuracy on her character sheet, since all that ability invariable does is allow me to miss twice...)
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    And we've taken a break from me DMing, and we're playing a 4E game (while I'm not a huge fan of 4E, I din't mind so much when I'm playing, especially as it gives me a break). So we spent the first half of the session trying to remember what everything did after not playing for two years... And then, by the end of the session, my laser cleric was back on form, unable to hit fracking anything as usual, despite rolling the same dice as the wizard I'm also playing. That girl is cursed... (There's a reason she had Elven Inaccuracy on her character sheet, since all that ability invariable does is allow me to miss twice...)
    Ironically enough, I'm slowly working back up to the point where I'm willing to DM again, for the first time in a couple of years. Player demand is the tricky bit, making sure I can find my 4 willing participants. Theoretically the usual DM for the day I'm thinking of frequently claims he'd love a chance to sit back and play, rather than run for once. He rarely leaves a spot free for that to happen in, though so it's not entirely convincing.

    I've still got to plan the details out, but it's either going to be a gritty, real-world-crime and foulness based mystery (Drugs, Murder and Kidnapping rings all likely) or a psuedo-lovecraftian cultist spin on that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aotrs Commander View Post
    And we've taken a break from me DMing, and we're playing a 4E game (while I'm not a huge fan of 4E, I din't mind so much when I'm playing, especially as it gives me a break). So we spent the first half of the session trying to remember what everything did after not playing for two years... And then, by the end of the session, my laser cleric was back on form, unable to hit fracking anything as usual, despite rolling the same dice as the wizard I'm also playing. That girl is cursed... (There's a reason she had Elven Inaccuracy on her character sheet, since all that ability invariable does is allow me to miss twice...)
    This, this is why orks are the best shooting race in Warhammer 40k. Everyone else has missile launchers, the orks have rocket launchers. And they have a lot of rocket launchers when they want them.
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    .... Gah. I have heard of this before, but it was only applied to Lesson Zero. For everyone else? Jeepers Creepers.

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    ...cool theory, but too dark to headcanon. ._.
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    Sadly, part of the original Secret Project plan - to do it in 25mm and 12mm, has somewhat fallen apart, as now I've had chance to experiment with the finalised model, the 25mm model is like $80 from Shapeways, and the other place I was hoping to get it done is a bit strange on their pricing.
    Hey, let's make a deal. I'll pay for one of your models, you pay for one of mine.

    What material are you using for that, though? a 2.5x2.5x2.5cm solid block of material is like 15.625 cm3. In Frosted Ultra Detail, that'd go to about $60, and your model has plenty of space between to get near half of that. Barring, you know, using FCS or WSF, which would be much cheaper still. Sure you got your model scaled correctly?

    Edit: Heck, my avatar is like under $10 in WSF and it's about the size you're aiming for.

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    The wargames company that's using that 3D printing company is flogging off their models in 72nd at £16 a go, and their 144 at a £5 (which means the must be paying less); I'd expected my models, being about 1.5-3 times the size (i.e. volume), to be about the proportion more expensive; instead they quoted me at what worked out to £86 per tank. So I'm not quite sure how the wargames company is doing (because I find it hard to believe they're ordering hundreds of each model to spend thousands of pounds of orders or something, and havign huge stock-keeping costs); I don't think there's that much demand for wargames models... I suspect there must be a dirty deal somewhere, because what they're quoting me isn't even in the same order of magnitude.
    Well, if they don't have a bulk deal going on, only other thing I can think of is if they're hollowing parts out. Have you looked into that?

    E: I guess since I don't know which wargames company you're talking about, there's also the possibility that they 3D print their master figure, and then make a mold out of that for extrusion as opposed to 3D printing every individual piece.

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    Wait, wasn't that a plot point in Full Metal Alchemist somewhere?
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    Ack! So do not want!

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    Hey, let's make a deal. I'll pay for one of your models, you pay for one of mine.

    What material are you using for that, though? a 2.5x2.5x2.5cm solid block of material is like 15.625 cm3. In Frosted Ultra Detail, that'd go to about $60, and your model has plenty of space between to get near half of that. Barring, you know, using FCS or WSF, which would be much cheaper still. Sure you got your model scaled correctly?

    Edit: Heck, my avatar is like under $10 in WSF and it's about the size you're aiming for.
    Ah, there's a subtely there... That last model isn't the small infantry walker one that's only about an inch square at 25mm scale, which I've got already, which is fine:

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    (Which is about $10 in 25mm scale for a squad of three with both ground and flying modes.)


    The new one the tank-sized version (in 25mm scale it's about 100mm tall). For comparison, even a Workshop Space Marine would only come up to the bottom of the body. It's probably not far off the size of two Tau crisis suits (or whatever they're called, I just use the models) stood back to back.) The Secret Project model's fine in 144 size, being about the same price as the 144 tanks (plus 50% because it's got the turret-mode as well); but in 25mm scale, it's just too volumetrically big (it's about 46 cm3).

    It is hollowed out - to a wall thickness of 1.5mm. Now, I might be able to hollow it out to 1mm wall thicknesses... but that won't reduce the volume - and thus the cost - by the, like 50%-66% it would need to to make buying them feasible for an army. (By comparison, a 25mm tank, which is basically indentical in size to a German Leopard tank, I looked at came in at about $50, with 1mm wall-thicknesses.)

    3T, this place I was looking it, doesn't price by volume, and RPG Manufacutring is using them to make WW2 tanks in a varity of scales, including 144 and 72, which they are selling at about half what it would cost me to have them made in Shapeways. My 144 tanks - even hollowed out - come in around $12 each (so about £8-10) - which is still less than a lot of metal castings, and well within reasonable limits. I was hoping to be able to achieve something relatively close to the amount they are clearly paying (I wasn't expecting to match it, because I wouldn't be ordering as much - but I was expecting that I might at least match Shapeway's pricing, which 3T haven't even managed. An order that would have cost £500 quid from Shapeways, they were saying would cost nearly £900 - and as the former is about 2.5 times what I can scrape together in one go... They told me last time, when I got a quote for an order that would have been about £100, that it would be £200, but that if I'd had ten times as many, it would have been only four times as expensive. I suspect they were either Iron Will tolieting, or their economies of scale only start to cut in in thousands of pounds range. (Which is why RPG Manufacturing baffles me, since I'd be amazed if they were spending several thousand pounds (I had thought only one or two maybe) a go, of stock they might not shift that quick.))

    I never use any materials aside from WSF, as a matter of course (I used a few in TD before October, and the handful of models I had in the frosted detail were of a far worse finish than the the WSF in the end, and I'm having to replace the only one I used, because it's far to fragile.)



    On the other hand...er hoof, in this case...this makes the 144-scale Jalyrkieon ground army may have slightly moved up my production list...!
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    The most horrible interpretation of the show I've seen. Even worse than that that comic where the whole show is just the fantasy of an autistic Pinkie Pie.
    Yeah. Waaaay too dark. Especially since it's just to explain a couple of slightly off episodes. Yuck.

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    Artponies, we could do with a Pegasus Mafia picture or two.

    Applemafia is Best Mafia though, because there is no Pegasus Mafia.
    Of course the Apple mafia is the only mafia. Don Derpy Hooves wouldn't have it any other way.

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    FWIW, I had more fun reading yours.

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    Yeah, they've been doing great with the CMC this season. I'm still hoping Scootaloo gets an episode though. Poor little neglected pegasus.


    I think the main thing about Season 2 is that Season 1 was an experiment. Studio B had no idea what they were doing going into this. Making a My Little Pony show couldn't be too hard, it's been done a dozen times before. The problem is they wanted to break away from the MLP everyone was used to and make something different. Season 1 is the result of them not quite being sure what they could get away with and how things would be taken. Control over Season 1 was clearly much tighter, with very little experimentation so they could test the waters and see what people thought. Of course, because of how long it takes to make an episode, they couldn't really make much in the way of changes mid-season. The result is a season devoted to establishing who the characters were. After all, making a little episode showing a key point about a character's personality is relatively safe, if people don't like it it's either because they don't like the show as a whole or don't like the character. They don't have to worry about people disliking the show/episode because of [x].

    This is what we're seeing in Season 2. They're experimenting more with what they can put in an episode. They've seen how popular the show is and now have a better idea of what they can get away with. You'll notice most of the complaints about any episode tends to end up being about an item that shouldn't be there (the dam), a topic that people don't like seeing (Putting Your Hoof Down), or them just having more fun with certain sequences (superpower baby scene). My personal gripe with it right now is almost entirely that Fluttershy is more animated and louder than she was in Season 1. Otherwise what I'm trying to say is that people don't complain about the characters themselves unless they're acting out of character, and the characters were all there really was in Season 1. They're still here in Season 2, but there's been more layers added on top of that. The show has changed, but it's more of a natural evolution thing. Some things have gotten worse, some have gotten better (so many songs). I don't find this season to be bad at all, just different. The real question is where are they going to go from here? Will they continue to add more layers and experiment more, or will they take what they've learned from Season 2 and bring it more in line with Season 1? If they took the best parts of both seasons then Season 3 could be truly amazing.

    EDIT: Another complaint most people seem to have is with the pacing of the episodes. I'm marking that down as further support of them simply adding more to the episodes.

    Also I'm totally not blaming any of these changes on Lauren leaving. I know her leaving has had an effect on the show, it's impossible for it not to have, but it's extremely rare that any show can go two seasons in a row without having the show change direction in some way. We're just seeing the natural evolution of a show. Happens all the time.
    I think you're right about the CMC. In season one they were just "The CMC" and more or less interchangeable, but now they've given Applebloom and Sweetie Belle a lot of independent characterization without really disrupting the dynamic when the three are together. Actually, I'd say one of the things I appreciate most about season two is their willingness to develop/focus on a secondary cast.

    As for season two as a whole I think it's had at least as much good stuff as the first season. If "ponythread is really down on the last episode" means a lot of posters saying "eh, it was OK, but had a few problems" then maybe we're all just spoiled. Considering I loved the six episodes before this one I'm totally fine with a single episode that didn't blow me away

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    I guess since I don't know which wargames company you're talking about, there's also the possibility that they 3D print their master figure, and then make a mold out of that for extrusion as opposed to 3D printing every individual piece.
    No, it's definately printed on the same machine as Shapeways use for their WSF; I've seen the models on sale at wargames conventions. One of my oppos bought one, just so we could have a gander and see whether it was better than mine. (They reckoned they had a few more rivits, but the detail of mine was sharper...) It was them that enabled me to track down 3T in the first place, and 3T even advertise it on their website.

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    Question: Is Woona a crazy fan personality or an entirely different pony at this point?
    Woona is just young Luna, and so outside some fanfiction like My Little Alicorn there isn't anything contradictory. The scared, timid, technoincompetent Luna from something like Progress might be considered a completely different pony than ROYAL CANTERLOT Luna at this point, but young Woona is still as valid (or at least possible) now as ever.

    Although I guess you could consider just about every well-defined, distinct fan personality as seperate from the original character.

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    It's not meant to be funny. At least that's what I'm starting to think after musing on that ep for a while. I mean are you aware the background of the slogan "No means No"? It's basically a catchcry for anti-violence/rape movements.

    Stick that together with how Flutters is treated this whole episode, and it becomes more and more like a whole episode devoted to tackling the topic of domestic abuse or taking advantage of women and the consequences of that. (In this case, Flutters ended up thinking that abuse to be the norm and taking it to the outside world, in this case Pinkie and Rarity.)

    Rarity and Pinkie try to blame Iron Will for it, but Flutters correctly identifies that it's not his fault, it's hers. (Not to say this is true in 100% of the above cases, of course, but I think it was in this one. IW is just a self-help seminar guy doing his job) Kudos to the writers for that.

    In fact, the more I think on it, the more I can't help seeing this as a very difficult topic that the writers have decided to put into a kids show. And despite my issues with the pacing I cannot fault them for having the guts to do that and recognise the need for subtlety in that regard.
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    I've been thinking about this since the topic was brought up here, and I think the episode does a poor job of highlighting domestic violence, if that was the point. The problem is that Equestria is just too nice. If we're talking about Iron Hoof as the abusive one, then the problem is that he's just too nice and not really coercing Fluttershy into doing anything. If we're talking about Angel, then the problem is that it just doesn't portray an actual relationship, beyond someone and their pet. And if we're talking about Fluttershy herself... well, I don't know what to think.

    The problem is that I can see how the story message related to anti-violence messages because I already know what the anti-violence message is, and can see the similarities. However, if I just had this episode to go off of, I'm not sure I would tie Fluttershy's position to somebody being abused by a specific person, nor the lesson learned to a way to deal with it.

    I think the episode is better as pointing out how to handle yourself without getting walked on by others, both the good way and the bad way of going about it. Oh, and Iron Hoof being the best "antagonist" we've had yet.
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    The most horrible interpretation of the show I've seen. Even worse than that that comic where the whole show is just the fantasy of an autistic Pinkie Pie.
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    This happened... and then 10 minutes later they channeled the elements of harmony and that restored them totally to normal so EVERYTHING IS TOTALLY FINE.
    I don't remember most of the previous ones, but I'm just going to go ahead and count this as one of the most successful New Thread Dark Thought things. We were doing that still weren't we? I know it was a thing for a while there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aotrs Commander View Post
    The new one the tank-sized version (in 25mm scale it's about 100mm tall). For comparison, even a Workshop Space Marine would only come up to the bottom of the body. It's probably not far off the size of two Tau crisis suits (or whatever they're called, I just use the models) stood back to back.) The Secret Project model's fine in 144 size, being about the same price as the 144 tanks (plus 50% because it's got the turret-mode as well); but in 25mm scale, it's just too volumetrically big (it's about 46 cm3).
    Um... Okay, I don't play Warhammer, but I think the gist of that is that it's height is four times the size I was expecting. In which case, yeah, then the pricing makes sense. When you square the dimensions, you cube the volume or something, yeah. Doesn't look like the model would mold well, either... So I'm out of ideas. (That model of mine I linked to? Its bounding box is 30x27x25cm. Go ahead and take a guess how much it costs.)

    Quote Originally Posted by Aotrs Commander View Post
    I suspect they were either Iron Will tolieting, or their economies of scale only start to cut in in thousands of pounds range.
    *Googles* Ah, looks like they pride themselves on being Industry applicable. Sounds like most of their customers do order in thousands, and every "Five tanks please" order that they print means that they can't fulfill those thousand-piece orders for that half-day. When I check on RPG Manufacturing's Ordering information (I... Think I'm on the right page? We're cross-ninja-ing each other here) it sounds like they actually do mold and cast their 3D prints, which, yeah, after the initial investment, makes it real cheap to make lots of figures.
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    Oh man. Oh man.

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    Soooooo tempted to accept that as fanon.
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    This pick sums up my stance of the whole "Discord's plan kinda worked" deal.
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    You see, why are you guys saying Discord ever left? Seems to me that there is plenty of chaos around, ehh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by OracleofWuffing View Post
    Um... Okay, I don't play Warhammer, but I think the gist of that is that it's height is four times the size I was expecting. In which case, yeah, then the pricing makes sense. When you square the dimensions, you cube the volume or something, yeah. Doesn't look like the model would mold well, either... So I'm out of ideas. (That model of mine I linked to? Its bounding box is 30x27x25cm. Go ahead and take a guess how much it costs.)
    This experimentation with 144 and 72 models has lead me to find that Shapeways that, due to the fact I scale the wall thickness to be th same absolute value (1.5mm) that the effective volume is something around five times that of something half the size, as opposed to eight; but yes, it's quite a larger model comparitively!

    I would hate to imagine. Heading into the thousands of dollars, perhaps?

    Quote Originally Posted by OracleofWuffing
    *Googles* Ah, looks like they pride themselves on being Industry applicable. Sounds like most of their customers do order in thousands, and every "Five tanks please" order that they print means that they can't fulfill those thousand-piece orders for that half-day. When I check on RPG Manufacturing's Ordering information (I... Think I'm on the right page?) it sounds like they actually do mold and cast their 3D prints, which, yeah, after the initial investment, makes it real cheap to make lots of figures.
    Minifigs, the parent company, does sell a lot of traditional metal casting, which is where they made their name (and presumably scraped up the capital). RPG Manufacturing is just a new branch that sells the WSF tanks (and I can assure you that those are definately WSF prints, having seen them on sale in person.)

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    This pick sums up my stance of the whole "Discord's plan kinda worked" deal.

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    Actually, I thought at first the dead link was symbolic of something. What I dunno, that's more Thanqol's line...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aotrs Commander View Post
    I would hate to imagine. Heading into the thousands of dollars, perhaps?
    Well, around $300, actually, but I'm going to see if I can get that down to $275 or something. I wouldn't normally consider getting one printed, but I need something for the next art show, and it's not like I have anything else to spend my tax refu- wait, no, we stopped talking about those last topic.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aotrs Commander View Post
    Minifigs, the parent company, does sell a lot of traditional metal casting, which is where they made their name (and presumably scraped up the capital). RPG Manufacturing is just a new branch that sells the WSF tanks (and I can assure you that those are definately WSF prints, having seen them on sale in person.)
    Gaaaah why do companies and economies need to be soo hard to understand!
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    Soooooo tempted to accept that as fanon.
    Inorite? Dark as all nine hells, but it's an amusing little idea to entertain. And I swear if they actually decide to end the season/series this way Studio B deserves awards for how much guts it would take to pull a stunt like that in a kid's show.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyouhen View Post
    Inorite? Dark as all nine hells, but it's an amusing little idea to entertain. And I swear if they actually decide to end the season/series this way Studio B deserves awards for how much guts it would take to pull a stunt like that in a kid's show.
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    As someone who no longer identifies as a brony, this is VERY tempting to latch onto.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aotrs Commander View Post
    Actually, I thought at first the dead link was symbolic of something. What I dunno, that's more Thanqol's line...
    It refers to the anxiety held by the citizens of 21st century United States of the ability of their technology to solve practical problems, the worry that we are soon to 'peak' and problems face us to which there are no answers. A failure to illustrate Discord through the medium of a broken, failed link shows that the internet cannot appropriately capture the extent of the chaos that threatens the world and it, at best, is a limited distraction from the true problems of the world.

    It's a metaphor for how even speculation on the success of Discord's plan is evidence of the success of Discord's plan and is a challenge to the first world public, a subversion of modern techno-utopian fantasies by using the medium of failed technology.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Thanqol View Post
    It refers to the anxiety held by the citizens of 21st century United States of the ability of their technology to solve practical problems, the worry that we are soon to 'peak' and problems face us to which there are no answers. A failure to illustrate Discord through the medium of a broken, failed link shows that the internet cannot appropriately capture the extent of the chaos that threatens the world and it, at best, is a limited distraction from the true problems of the world.

    It's a metaphor for how even speculation on the success of Discord's plan is evidence of the success of Discord's plan and is a challenge to the first world public, a subversion of modern techno-utopian fantasies by using the medium of failed technology.


    I just got out of an English lecture, can you tell?
    Amazing how you were able to rattle off analysis without a lot of deep thought! Spoken like a true English major!
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