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2013-11-06, 08:30 AM (ISO 8601)
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Can you still level with a 100% experience penalty?
Coming off of the thread that was asking about multiclass experience penalties, what would happen if you had some sort of build that granted you a 100% experience penalty and then you read the book of exalted deeds? (the artifact in the DMG not the irl book :P)
I think you might still level... It doesn't give a set amount it sets your XP to a certain number. However the wording does say "you gain enough xp to" and infinite minus 100% is still zero.
What do you guys think? Also can you think of a way to level with still having a 100% experience penalty?I'm currently in the process of doing my own 3.5 rewrite i thought i should mention this and it may be relevant to most posts I make. As well i will always ask and answer questions from the DM's point of view.
I have access to all books (but no dragon magazines other than a few i have physical copies of) and i have a physical copy of of almost every book minus most of the campaign books.
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2013-11-06, 08:35 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Can you still level with a 100% experience penalty?
Why? What possible need does this line of questioning fulfill? What aspect of the game does this explore and clarify? How do we expand our knowledge by learning the nature of this particular limitation?
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2013-11-06, 08:40 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Can you still level with a 100% experience penalty?
Damnit Cap'n Q, inquiring minds need to know. Thats why.
I would think that not even that could give you XP, and it would be a hard knock life for you.
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2013-11-06, 08:42 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Can you still level with a 100% experience penalty?
I'm currently in the process of doing my own 3.5 rewrite i thought i should mention this and it may be relevant to most posts I make. As well i will always ask and answer questions from the DM's point of view.
I have access to all books (but no dragon magazines other than a few i have physical copies of) and i have a physical copy of of almost every book minus most of the campaign books.
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2013-11-06, 08:52 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Can you still level with a 100% experience penalty?
How do you get to a 100% experience penalty from multiclassing?
1 first/3 second/5 third /7 fourth/9 fifth/11 sixth. So you need to be level 36 to have 6 base classes of sufficiently different level to have a 100% multiclass experience penalty. This is assuming you don't take any in a favored class.
That is impressive.
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2013-11-06, 08:56 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Can you still level with a 100% experience penalty?
Last edited by Karnith; 2013-11-06 at 09:00 AM.
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2013-11-06, 08:57 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Can you still level with a 100% experience penalty?
Yeah I was just about to say, this right here can show just how crazy it can be.
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2013-11-06, 08:58 AM (ISO 8601)
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2013-11-06, 09:05 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Can you still level with a 100% experience penalty?
I'm currently in the process of doing my own 3.5 rewrite i thought i should mention this and it may be relevant to most posts I make. As well i will always ask and answer questions from the DM's point of view.
I have access to all books (but no dragon magazines other than a few i have physical copies of) and i have a physical copy of of almost every book minus most of the campaign books.
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2013-11-06, 10:42 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Can you still level with a 100% experience penalty?
No, see, what you do is you get an experience penalty of greater than 100%, and then you try to lose experience. You'll instead lose a negative amount of experience, which causes you to, on net, gain experience, and you can still level up.
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2013-11-06, 10:47 AM (ISO 8601)
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2013-11-06, 11:17 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Can you still level with a 100% experience penalty?
Which I already covered in this thread.
Now I think the OP's question is great, but do we need two threads covering the same issue ?
Deck of Many Things you Fool.Last edited by nedz; 2013-11-06 at 11:19 AM.
π = 4
Consider a 5' radius blast: this affects 4 squares which have a circumference of 40' — Actually it's worse than that.
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2013-11-06, 01:08 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Can you still level with a 100% experience penalty?
Let's say you're a build with a 100% XP penalty.
I've got a trick for that!
Whether through UPD and power stones or the Soul Crystal power (from Magic of Incarnum), use Fusion on a viable creature with more HD than you. Before the duration expires, find a way to manifest Astral Seed. Again, Soul Crystal will work handily. If you're shapeshifted via Polymorph or whatever, you can give yourself all the racial abilities you care to have, and turning yourself into a low/no-LA and no-(racial)-HD race will make it easier for the DM to allow later steps. Once you're satisfied, you off yourself.
When you're finished reviving, you wake up as a gestalt of yourself and the other creature, using whatever form you shapeshifted into, and the other creature's HD total (since it was higher than yours). Then either use a rebuilding quest or permanent negative levels and a thought bottle, then retrain all the additional levels (including racial HD) into whatever classes you want.
Alternately, just retrain the levels that are giving you problems into caster levels so you won't need to multiclass to be decent.Last edited by Rubik; 2013-11-06 at 01:14 PM.
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2013-11-06, 01:23 PM (ISO 8601)
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2013-11-06, 03:29 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Can you still level with a 100% experience penalty?
π = 4
Consider a 5' radius blast: this affects 4 squares which have a circumference of 40' — Actually it's worse than that.
Completely Dysfunctional Handbook
Warped Druid Handbook
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