Natalia seems to bristle at Kurt's suggestion. "Forced choice...like no choice. Dragged by leash, leash with barbs. And...what when spell runs out, when off leash? Chain rabid dog, but...what happens when chain broken?"
She shakes her head. "Though killing as other choice...no choice at all, both bad. Maybe chain, maybe learn to heel then. I...don't know. I'd hate chain, but that over death."
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Natalia pauses, then puts her hand on Shiny's shoulder. "I...trust you. Trust you, Shiny. Lie, but harmless lies. Could have betrayed us...thousands of times over. And always helped. Always listened...in own way. I...trust you.""You told him not to lie," Shiny says, "and he did. He had his chance. There's too many people in this world to save without wasting your time on the liars." He glances down at the ground for a moment.
She chews her lips. "Shiny...right though. About Axel. May not want...to change."