New Star Trek Movie

[chiasaur11]

Does anyone else think the trailer is a bit dark for Star Trek? Kirk's a alienated reckless idiot, Spock's unstable and violent, the crew of the Enterprise appears to consist entirely of moody 20-year-olds, and there's a remarkable amount of fleet battling and massive explosions for a peaceful galaxy. I mean, they're not turning it into Warhammer 40K, but I thought Star Trek was all about optimism and harmony.

James T Kirk has always been a reckless idiot who gets into constant barfights and space battles.

The calm peaceful bit is wherever Kirk ain't.

[SurlySeraph]

Yes, but I'd always thought of Kirk as more "lovable scoundrel" and less "car-wasting jackass who provokes his crew members into attacking him."

[Seraph]

Yes, but I'd always thought of Kirk as more "lovable scoundrel" and less "car-wasting jackass who provokes his crew members into attacking him."

I thought the point of the movie was to show Kirk going from "Moody reckless idiot" to "mellow reckless idiot who knows when to turn it down and captain a ****ing starship".

[kamikasei]

Does anyone else think the trailer is a bit dark for Star Trek? Kirk's a alienated reckless idiot, Spock's unstable and violent, the crew of the Enterprise appears to consist entirely of moody 20-year-olds, and there's a remarkable amount of fleet battling and massive explosions for a peaceful galaxy. I mean, they're not turning it into Warhammer 40K, but I thought Star Trek was all about optimism and harmony.

Kirk as a reckless idiot: I'm not sure how much time the movie spans. We see him trashing a car when he's a kid. Then, he gets in a barfight or something when played by Chris Pine and is advised he should enlist in Starfleet. And he ends up on the Enterprise somehow. For all we know the movie proper could start with him having graduated the Academy or completed a tour on the Farragut and matured; the "brat with daddy issues" stuff could just be backstory.

Spock as unstable and violent: hmmm? I can think of one scene where he seems to be attacking Kirk. Not enough context to say what's going on there.

Rest of the crew as moody twenty-somethings: we barely see the rest of the crew. They don't get a chance to seem like much of anything.

Universe is violent: it looks to me like there's a battle involving Kirk's father set before the movie takes place and one, presumably, as or near the climax of the film. As is a trailer's wont, those scenes have probably been mined for every bit of CG that can be use to lure in viewers.

Basically, nothing about the trailer suggests that it reflects the structure or plot of the movie at all. It's just scenes and fragments in isolation. No point trying to reverse-engineer it in much detail.

My concern is why the bloody Romulans are in it. In Shadow warships. With planetbusters. ???

[SmartAlec]

Spock as unstable and violent: hmmm? I can think of one scene where he seems to be attacking Kirk. Not enough context to say what's going on there.

I assumed we're seeing a young Spock, who hasn't quite mastered keeping his emotions in check.

there's a remarkable amount of fleet battling and massive explosions for a peaceful galaxy

Not sure about peaceful - the Federation is in a state of cold war with the Klingons at this time, isn't it?

[skywalker]

I thought the point of the movie was to show Kirk going from "Moody reckless idiot" to "mellow reckless idiot who knows when to turn it down and captain a ****ing starship".

I think this is the idea...

[WalkingTarget]

My concern is why the bloody Romulans are in it. In Shadow warships. With planetbusters. ???

My understanding is that there's time travel involved (a real shock in a Trek movie, that).

[kamikasei]

My understanding is that there's time travel involved (a real shock in a Trek movie, that).

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Seriously, god damn it, people!

[WalkingTarget]

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Seriously, god damn it, people!

Yeah, I mean, I thought that the first time anybody in the federation saw what a Romulan looked like was in an original series episode.

1. Enterprise approaches Romulan ship (which is all anybody had seen so far due to Romulan secrecy/xenophobia).
2. They bring up a visual somehow.
3. Enterprise crew all turn to look at Spock.
4. Spock raises eyebrow.

I always thought that the Earth/Romulan war would be an interesting thing to cover, but Enterprise got canceled before their timeline could catch up to that.

[kamikasei]

Yeah, I mean, I thought that the first time anybody in the federation saw what a Romulan looked like was in an original series episode.

Yeah, it was supposed to be this whole thing where the Romulans were so isolationist that they were never seen; all the battles were fought in space and the final treaty was negotiated over radio.

But that's not so bad; it's annoying, but just a continuity tweak. It's the rumoured use of time travel that annoys me; it's just a weak and overused device.

[SolkaTruesilver]

My understanding is that there's time travel involved (a real shock in a Trek movie, that).

ARG!

Time Travel : The Key to Wreak Canon

[The Extinguisher]

I'm seeing it tomorrow, so I'll let you guys know what's with the what what and all.

But I made the mistake of letting a big Trekkie know that I had pre-screening passes, and now he wants my blood.

[SolkaTruesilver]

I'm seeing it tomorrow, so I'll let you guys know what's with the what what and all.

But I made the mistake of letting a big Trekkie know that I had pre-screening passes, and now he wants my blood.

Don't worry, we all make those kind of mistakes...

...

My testicles will never be the same after mine....

[Lord Seth]

Then, he gets in a barfight or something when played by Chris Pine and is advised he should enlist in Starfleet.

Well, part of Picard's backstory was that while at the Starfleet Academy, he got into a barfight that nearly killed him...it's not like it's something new.

But hey, Never Trust A Trailer.

[The Extinguisher]

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It was a really good movie. Completley screwed over continuity, but it's all okay, because it's actually a sequel. Alternate timelines and all that jazz. So all the movies and tv shows before don't actually count.

But still, it was a great movie, a great cast and they need to find a way to make a TV show out of it.

[Llama231]

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It was a really good movie. Completley screwed over continuity, but it's all okay, because it's actually a sequel. Alternate timelines and all that jazz. So all the movies and tv shows before don't actually count.

But still, it was a great movie, a great cast and they need to find a way to make a TV show out of it.

lolololololololol.

Did Spock slice anyone's head off?

[Lerky]

I'm deeply disappointed that it's an "alternate time-line" themed movie which basically makes it as non-canon as a movie can get. But I still look forward to seeing it. I even got my old Star Trek uniform from 2 years ago and plan to wear it on opening day! Who else here's dressing up for the movie?

[The Extinguisher]

It's still canon insofar that people say it is. And it's still an excellent movie.

I don't see the problem.

[Renegade Paladin]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02LgdXVkXgM

[Lerky]

I have devided to start making OOTS-Style Star Trek avatars for anyone willing to ask for them. I can't promise they'll be good, since I'm still a cadet at Inkscape, but I promise I'll try my best for any die hard fans out there

[Last_resort_33]

Plot: a bit meh

Film in General: Awesome

I've seen most Star Trek apart from Enterprise, but I wouldn't call myself a Trekkie. We saw it at the Bradford IMAX at 00:01 and I left feeling pretty awesome... that might just have been sleep deprivation however.

Couple of good nods and references in there.

[Llama231]

So, ...
The movie officially is in theaters in the US today.

[puppyavenger]

Just got back from seeing it in Imax.

initial thoughts

1. They had the people in the theaters wearing star fleet uniforms
2. They advertised a con before the movie started
3. The person in front of us appeared to be dressed up as Luke Skywalker ()
4.Chekhov is awesome.
5. so is scotty
6. Having never seen the original series, can't comment on how it compares.

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7. "No Endor holocaust" is in full effect

[chiasaur11]

Saw it.

I have but one major complaint. My face hurt from smiling so much.

Also: JJ Abrams may well be physically incapable of making a project without time travel of some sort.

[kamikasei]

It was a lot of fun. The humour was good, a lot of the characterization was excellent (McCoy was dead on). But I really, really don't like time travel. I thought it was extraordinarly unnecessary here, and only detracted from the storytelling. And there were aspects of the plot that were straight-up stupid. So while I enjoyed it, it disappointed me.

[kpenguin]

Saw it.

I have but one major complaint. My face hurt from smiling so much.

Also: JJ Abrams may well be physically incapable of making a project without time travel of some sort.

Cloverfield?

[chiasaur11]

Cloverfield?

Didn't you see the tiny flux capacitator on the monster's back?

[The Blackbird]

Plot: a bit meh

Film in General: Awesome.

Same here.

Just saw it today.

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When Neo shouted "Spock! SPOCK!!!" I was like, come on that's a Kahn ripoff and you know it

[chiasaur11]

Same here.

Just saw it today.

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When Neo shouted "Spock! SPOCK!!!" I was like, come on that's a Kahn ripoff and you know it

Well, yeah.

One of those most fun things in Trek needs referencing.

[The Blackbird]

Well, yeah.

One of those most fun things in Trek needs referencing.

Everthing else was great but KAHN is an original, they should not have done it again.