Arena Tournament, Round 56: Mr. Q, Dhomi Nho, Rainbow Ninja, Lang Free For All

[Psionic Dog]

LoS check needed.

@Refs

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Mr. Q needs to know where the swarm is and/or who the swarm is attempting to attack before he takes his next move.

(Mr. Q. is under Hide from Animals, his opponents may or may not also be)

Also, if a creature in LoS is attacked by a creature outside of LoS would I see the attack?

[madtinker]

@Refs

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spot check for Rainbow Ninja, DC 15 (1d20+4)[7] The bat's speed is forty feet, not enough to surround and attack lang this turn, as they must occupy his space in order to attack.

@Psionic Dog

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Most of your questions I don't know the answer to. However, the bats are now in K20 next to Lang, who is in J21/K22

@Rainbow Ninja

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You still see Lang in J21/K22 a bat swarm in K20

@Lang

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A swarm of bats flys toward you, stopping in K20, about to attack, Mr. Q is still in J17

[Ganurath]

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What elevation is Lang at? If he's on the ground, I wouldn't be able to see him from R19, height notwithstanding.

[chilepepper]

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Also, if a creature in LoS is attacked by a creature outside of LoS would I see the attack?

High Ref chilepepper
@Psionic Dog, refs

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This has the making of a great debate, although I will issue a preliminary ruling. No, there is nothing in RAW that would allow this. Being attacked is not an action so you would not see the defender 'do' anything; and the attacker remains outside of LoS as he exists only in his square during the entire attack.

[madtinker]

@ganurath

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he is at +10 feet, putting his head above the wall, as far as I can tell.

[Psionic Dog]

Mr. Q - Round 5

@Refs

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Shouldn't the bat swarm be size: Large? And if that's the case, would the swarm be overlapping Lang's square?

Refs/LoS

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Mr. Q takes a 5-ft step west to J-16 (which I believe is covered by obscuring mist) and starts firing arrows at Lang.

Swift: Expend Xeph burst for extra attack.
Arrow 1 - (1d20+5)[7] Damage - (1d8+1)[7] +2 [9]
Arrow 2 - (1d20+5)[14] Damage - (1d8+1)[9] +2 [11]
Arrow 3 - (1d20+5)[23] Damage - (1d8+1)[3] +2 [5]
Edit: added favored enemy bonus.

Crit Confirm - (1d20+5)[12] Crit D - (2d8)[6]

Done.

Stats

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Locations: J-16
HP: 10/10
AC: 18 [+5 dex +2 armor +1 shield]

Jump: 4/10
Hide from Animals 3/100

Xeph Bursts left: 1
Arrows: 34

[hustlertwo]

High Ref Hust
Lang is DQ'ed for lack of attendance.

[Ganurath]

Hmm... Requesting LoS then.

[Lubirio]

@Rainbow Ninja:

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Still a bat swarm at K20.

[Ganurath]

Rainbow Ninja

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Let's take a double move to R13, going half speed for a Move Silently check. I'll also make a Hide check for completeness, taking the -5 for not slowing down. Not a big deal while invisible, though.

Move Silently - (1d20+8)[22]
Hide - (1d20+43)[53]

Stats:

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HP: 6/6
AC: 15 Full, 13 Touch, 11 Flat-Footed: +2 Armor, +4 Dex, -1 Aggressive
Saves: Fort +0, Ref +4, Will +0
Special: Armored Casting, Invisibility 15 rounds

Turn Complete.

[Lubirio]

While I'm on it, LoS checks for the whole group:

@Refs:

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MR. Q Listen and spot checks, spot won't do much good though:
Listen - (1d20+3)[5] DC: 22
Spot - (1d20+6)[9] DC: 53

@Mr. Q:

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No LoS besides the bat swarm.

@Rainbow Ninja:

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upon moving into S13, you see Mr. Q standing in J16, you lose sight of him upon moving into R13, you may revise your turn starting your entrance of S13.

[Ganurath]

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I'll stop in... do you mean R14? I'm going in a straight line from R19 to R13, after all.

[Psionic Dog]

Mr Q - round 6

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Standard: Take total defense.

Move half speed to K-20 (assuming K-20 is currently bat free. Will revise if it isn't)
Jump - (1d20+16)[20] DC 20

Hide - (1d20+9)[18]
Move Silently - (1d20+7)[16]

Passive Spot - (1d20+6)[15]
Passive Listen - (1d20+3)[15]

Done.

Stats:

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Locations: K-20 [With 18 hide]
HP: 10/10
AC: 22 [+5 dex +2 armor +1 shield +4 total defense]

Jump: 5/10
Hide from Animals 4/100

Xeph Bursts left: 1
Arrows: 34

[Ganurath]

Gonna request some LoS...

[Lubirio]

LoS:

@Refs:

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Rainbow Ninja spot and listen checks, Mr. Q made his own checks. Since Rainbow Ninja hasn't moved yet, no move silently is needed
Spot - (1d20+4)[8]
Listen - (1d20+4)[15]

@Rainbow Ninja:

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my bad, yes I meant R14. Mr. Q goes out of sight as he moves east, the bat swarm is no more.

@Mr. Q:

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No LoS

[Ganurath]

Rainbow Ninja

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I'll take a move action at half speed to P14, I'll await LoS before seeing if I end it there, and what I do with my standard action. Also, I'd like to know at which point I lost LoS on my opponent. Given that he started on an elevated position and apparently stayed on it...

Move Silently - (1d20+8)[13]
Hide - (1d20+43)[61]

Awaiting LoS.

[Lubirio]

@Rainbow Ninja:

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No LoS, you lost LoS as he disappears behind the wall you were standing next to.

[Ganurath]

Rainbow Ninja

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Then I'll end the move action where I stand at P14, and I'll use a standard action to ready a casting of Color Spray if I see him in the spell's range.

Stats:

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HP: 6/6
AC: 15 Full, 13 Touch, 11 Flat-Footed: +2 Armor, +4 Dex, -1 Aggressive
Saves: Fort +0, Ref +4, Will +0
Special: Armored Casting, Invisibility 14 rounds

Turn Complete.

[Lubirio]

@Mr. Q:

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No LoS

[Psionic Dog]

Mr Q - Round 7

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5-ft step to L-20.

Hide - (1d20+9)[20]
Move Silently - (1d20+7)[8]

Passive spot - (1d20+6)[11]
Passive Listen - (1d20+3)[9]

If there is still no LoS at that point,
Active Spot - (1d20+6)[14]
Active Listen - (1d20+3)[19]

Done.

Stats:

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Locations: L-20 [With 20 hide]
HP: 10/10
AC: 18 [+5 dex +2 armor +1 shield]

Jump: 6/10
Hide from Animals 5/100

Xeph Bursts left: 1
Arrows: 34

[madtinker]

@Refs

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spot for RN (1d20+4)[23]

@RN

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You see Mr. Q in L20

@Mr. Q

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no LoS and you don't hear anything.

[Ganurath]

Rainbow Ninja

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Half-speed move action to N16, then I'll use a standard action to ready a casting of Color Spray if I see him in the spell's range.

Move Silently - (1d20+8)[17]
Hide - (1d20+43)[51]

Stats:

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HP: 6/6
AC: 15 Full, 13 Touch, 11 Flat-Footed: +2 Armor, +4 Dex, -1 Aggressive
Saves: Fort +0, Ref +4, Will +0
Special: Armored Casting, Invisibility 13 rounds

Turn Complete.

[Psionic Dog]

Mr Q - Round 8

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Take Double move action moving at half speed. Will revise if LoS established.

Move 20 ft south to P-20, auto-succeed on jump to Q-23, then end at R-23.

Hide - (1d20+9)[15]
Move Silently - (1d20+7)[26]

Passive Spot - (1d20+6)[22]
Passive Listen - (1d20+3)[18]

Oh, has the bat swarm moved/dissipated yet?

Done.

Stats

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Locations: R-23 [With 15 hide]
HP: 10/10
AC: 18 [+5 dex +2 armor +1 shield]

Jump: 7/10
Hide from Animals 6/100

Xeph Bursts left: 1
Arrows: 34

[madtinker]

@Refs

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Using Mr. Q's passive listen, he still does not Hear RN because of th1 +1/ten feet rule. He also cannot effectively hide, since there was already LoS and nothing has happened to provide concealment or distract the spotter. RN's ready action does not trigger because the diagonal distance to the vertical puts Mr. Q outside the specified range of triggering.

@Mr. Q

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No LoS, and you don't hear anything. The swarm has dissipated.

@RN

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Mr. Q creeps to P20 and then leaps out of sight to the east.

[Ganurath]

Rainbow Ninja

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Half-speed double move, going east to N18, diagonal to O19, then south to R19.

Move Silently - (1d20+8)[11]
Hide - (1d20+43)[53]

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HP: 6/6
AC: 15 Full, 13 Touch, 11 Flat-Footed: +2 Armor, +4 Dex, -1 Aggressive
Saves: Fort +0, Ref +4, Will +0
Special: Armored Casting, Invisibility 12 rounds

Turn Complete.

[Psionic Dog]

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[Psionic Dog]

Wha???

How can the post count be off from the moment it was first submitted?
I didn't even touch the edit button!

Anyway, I tried repost and it kept giving me a: "That is a duplicate of a post made less than 5 minutes ago" Here goes try #4 to get my post made.

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Mr Q - Round 9

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Assuming no LoS...

Mr Q takes a double move action at half speed to W-20/
Hide - (1d20+9)[19]
Move Silent - (1d20+7)[13]

Passive Spot - (1d20+6)[14]
Passive Listen - (1d20+3)[4]

Done.

Stats

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Location: W-20 [With 19 hide]
HP: 10/10
AC: 18 [+5 dex +2 armor +1 shield]

Jump: 8/10
Hide from Animals: 7/100

Xeph Bursts Left: 1
Arrows Left: 34

[Lubirio]

LoS:

@Rainbow Ninja:

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After entering R19, you saw Mr. Q in R23, and in his turn he moved to W20, still with LoS.

@Mr. Q:

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No LoS.

[Ganurath]

Rainbow Ninja

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Standard Action to cast Silent Image, creating an illusionary counterpart to myself on the pillar in T20, firing a crossbow bolt that flies just in front of my opponent's intended path, across W19 before lodging in the arena wall at the Z18. Since the spell isn't an attack, that shouldn't break my invisibility. I'll have the illusion shift and dodge to avoid any ranged attacks.

After that, a half-speed move action to T21, using diagonal moves to make it happen.

Move Silently - (1d20+8)[28]
Hide - (1d20+43)[59]

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HP: 6/6
AC: 15 Full, 13 Touch, 11 Flat-Footed: +2 Armor, +4 Dex, -1 Aggressive
Saves: Fort +0, Ref +4, Will +0
Special: Armored Casting, Invisibility 11 rounds

Turn Complete.

Oh, and Psionic Dog, you'll want to ask for LoS.

[madtinker]

@Refs

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Listen check for psidog to hear the verbal spell component (1d20+3)[13] DC 3 (person talking in strong voice and 3 for distance) and will to disbelieve illusion (1d20+2)[21]

@Psidog

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You hear an incantation spoken from the north. You also see a clever imitation of your opponent on the pillar in T20, firing a crossbow bolt that flies just in front of your path, across W19 before lodging in the arena wall at Z18. Other than that, no LoS.

@RN

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same as before