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Thread: Wild speculation on Blackwing
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2010-01-11, 12:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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Wild speculation on Blackwing
This is just something fun I've been considering. There has been some debate on these forums regarding the Order's inability to see Blackwing. Running gag or something more...it's hard to say. IMO I this feels more plot related rather than just a gag.
Regardless of any of that, my question here is this: What is the likelihood, if any, that Blackwing could possibly be Qarr?
There are some arguments that could be made that may very well explain the current Blackwing situation.
1. As an imp, Qarr has the ability to assume an alternate form, one of which is a raven.
2. Qarr also has the ability to turn invisible, which could explain why the Order cannot see Blackwing.
3. To my recollection, Blackwing never spoke much Common, if at all, prior to 672. Now all of a sudden, he is talking V's ear off? Plus, in 672, to me, it looks as if Blackwing appears on his own accord...not at V's beckoning. Just seems fishy to me.
4. Also, it would make sense for the IFCC to have a more direct link to V and to the Order's involvement with the Gates.
Anyway, just something fun to think about. Thoughts/criticism?
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2010-01-11, 12:54 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Wild speculation on Blackwing
If Blackwing is truly invisible, why can V see him (her?)? No, this is a continuation of a long-time running gag.
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2010-01-11, 12:55 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Wild speculation on Blackwing
Can Qarr be in two place at once?
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2010-01-11, 01:12 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Wild speculation on Blackwing
As far as V being able to see Blackwing/Qarr, my guess would be that Qarr would allow himself to be visible to V, but not the Order.
Yes, Qarr cannot be in two places at once, but my guess is on the assumption that Qarr assumes the Blackwing guise in 672...well after that particular comic.
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2010-01-11, 01:15 PM (ISO 8601)
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Then how is Qarr able to tell V about what Blackwing saw inside the rift?
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2010-01-11, 01:16 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Wild speculation on Blackwing
Did you read 672? "No, I said speaking to YOU in Common was demeaning. Try not to remind me why." Ravens can speak humanoid tongues, Blackwing just didn't like V enough to bother. Now he's decided to help his master become a marginally better person...and why would Qarr go out of his way to counsel Vaarsuvius against violence? Also, V was the one who initiated the conversation there, not the other way around; s/he certainly didn't seem surprised when Blackwing materialized.
Last edited by Shale; 2010-01-11 at 01:17 PM.
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2010-01-11, 01:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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2010-01-11, 02:03 PM (ISO 8601)
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2010-01-11, 02:07 PM (ISO 8601)
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The facts are all against the Qarr theory, but what if Blackwing is a member of the Original Soon, Girard, Serini, etc party?
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2010-01-11, 02:08 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Wild speculation on Blackwing
V used True Seeing. He would have seen the disguise.
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2010-01-11, 02:17 PM (ISO 8601)
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2010-01-11, 02:18 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Wild speculation on Blackwing
Also the Order can SEE Blackwing, they just don't believe the Familiar story, they think its an illusion.
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2010-01-11, 02:38 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Wild speculation on Blackwing
I was wondering if that was going to happen a while ago. I didn't notice that quarr and blackwing had been seen together, but blackwings comments had been urging V to be a BETTER person, hardly the work of an imp.
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2010-01-11, 03:29 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Wild speculation on Blackwing
but just as some things can be right and useless at the same time, can’t something be wrong...and priceless?
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2010-01-11, 10:26 PM (ISO 8601)
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2010-01-15, 04:34 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Wild speculation on Blackwing
I'm really the only Oracle-Anti-Fan here?
I'm the only who really wants him to be eaten alive by the Sharlakk?
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2010-01-15, 04:46 AM (ISO 8601)
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2010-01-15, 10:30 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Wild speculation on Blackwing
Haley named Blackwing; it is just a joke on how PC's never pay attention to familiars until one is brought to attention; and if V forgets his own familiar, the rest of the Order certainly would.
SpoilerI wonder if V will be the cause of Belkar's death after Mr Scruffy eats Blackwing..."We are the people our parents warned us about!" - J.Buffett
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2010-01-15, 01:53 PM (ISO 8601)
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2010-01-15, 06:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Wild speculation on Blackwing
Blackwing is secretly Peter Pettigrew.
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2010-01-15, 09:20 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Wild speculation on Blackwing
How could he be Qarr? Does V not have an empathetic link to him, so s/he would know if it was blackwing.
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2010-01-16, 12:15 AM (ISO 8601)
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2010-01-17, 07:11 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Wild speculation on Blackwing
hahahaha........
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