Keychain of Creation 3: Not-a-Keyblade Understanding & Falafel-is-Awesome Prana Combo

[lesser_minion]

It's a roleplaying game book convention (in some circles at least) to not assume that the players/characters are all one gender and they'll alternate which pronoun they use. I barely notice the oddity anymore.

I always remembered it as "all players are male, all DMs are female, everyone cross-plays".

It does vary from game to game, but usually not when it's clearly referring to the same person each time.

As for the deathknight issue, Secret has both been referred to as a Deathknight and described herself as one.

[kamikasei]

I don't think Secret qualifies as a Deathknight, though.

Experts disagree.

[lesser_minion]

Experts disagree.

Yes, yes they do.

Although we have just established that apparently one becomes a deathknight by obtaining a Lunar knack, so... yeah.

[Gez]

It's a roleplaying game book convention (in some circles at least) to not assume that the players/characters are all one gender and they'll alternate which pronoun they use. I barely notice the oddity anymore.

Yeah, but that's just dumb. D&D 3 did it right (they alternated gender, but not for the same character; if an example started with "she" and "her", it continued with "she" and "her" till the end; same for "he" and "his"). There it does it completely wrong. It's not gender equality, it's just poor writing. If an author does not want to choose a gender for a single character, they can use the singular they instead.

[ZeroNumerous]

If an author does not want to choose a gender for a single character, they can use the singular they instead.

I think he flips a coin everytime he comes across a gender pronoun.

At least they don't have that issue during sample character write-ups, otherwise it'd be fairly jarring and confusing.

[lesser_minion]

Do we have any sort of consensus on a name?

[spectralphoenix]

Yeah, but that's just dumb. D&D 3 did it right (they alternated gender, but not for the same character; if an example started with "she" and "her", it continued with "she" and "her" till the end; same for "he" and "his"). There it does it completely wrong. It's not gender equality, it's just poor writing. If an author does not want to choose a gender for a single character, they can use the singular they instead.

Usually, but the Stronghold Builder's Guide was a notable exception. It only had one character in an extended example throughout the book, with an androgynous elven name. He or she changed gender from sidebar to sidebar, and the whole thing gave me a headache.

Lesser minion: I believe most people have voted for "Deathknight needs hug badly." Gauntlet reference FTW!

[Jerthanis]

Yeah, but that's just dumb. D&D 3 did it right (they alternated gender, but not for the same character; if an example started with "she" and "her", it continued with "she" and "her" till the end; same for "he" and "his"). There it does it completely wrong. It's not gender equality, it's just poor writing. If an author does not want to choose a gender for a single character, they can use the singular they instead.

TECHNICALLY, singular "they" is also poor English. We have to use it because there is not a gender ambiguous pronoun in English and there likely never will be. Singular "They" is appropriate for colloquial speech, but in a formal piece it should be avoided.

[Revlid]

Keychain of Creation 4: Sorcerous Enlightenment of He Who Puts Foot In Mouth
Keychain of Creation 4: Waiting On Infernals
Keychain of Creation 4: Trespassers Beware of the Lunar
Keychain of Creation 4: Poor Casteing
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[Jokasti]

Keychain of Creation 4: I'm Liking Ten Winds More and More?
Keychain of Creation 4: Where Did I Put My Keys?
Keychain of Creation 4: Behind You! It's the KUKLA!
Keychain of Creation 4: Ink Monkeys called, they want to fix Misho

[lesser_minion]

I'm going to stick behind Keychain of Creation IV: Deathknight Needs Hug Badly, but I wouldn't mind getting at least a little consensus.

There seem to be a few other people who like it, and a few people who seem to hate it with the fury of the unconquered sun.

[Weimann]

I personally think that "badly" doesn't ring well. I think my sugestion of "The Deathknight Needs A Hug" sounds better (but then again, I would).

I can get behind "Deathknight Needs Hug Badly" too, however. It's not terrible.

[lesser_minion]

I personally think that "badly" doesn't ring well. I think my sugestion of "The Deathknight Needs A Hug" sounds better (but then again, I would).

I can get behind "Deathknight Needs Hug Badly" too, however. It's not terrible.

Well, the 'badly' is a fairly big chunk of the reference.

[Weimann]

Oh, it was a reference. Very well, I still say it's okay. Go with it.

[Jokasti]

I think it should rhyme with four.

[lord_khaine]

I can get behind the Deathknight title.

Also, i were thinking, isnt it very likely that Marena's grandfather is still alive? how old is it now terestials get?

[The Rose Dragon]

TECHNICALLY, singular "they" is also poor English. We have to use it because there is not a gender ambiguous pronoun in English and there likely never will be. Singular "They" is appropriate for colloquial speech, but in a formal piece it should be avoided.

There is. It's "he", the same as masculine third person singular pronoun. Just like "you" is both second person singular and second person plural.

[Gez]

TECHNICALLY, singular "they" is also poor English. We have to use it because there is not a gender ambiguous pronoun in English and there likely never will be. Singular "They" is appropriate for colloquial speech, but in a formal piece it should be avoided.

If it's good enough for Shakespeare, it's good enough for me. If English finds it poor, methinks the language doth protest too much.

[Recaiden]

There is. It's "he", the same as masculine third person singular pronoun. Just like "you" is both second person singular and second person plural.

This is a more recent creation and no more legitimate than 'they' as the third person singular gender-neutral pronoun.

[Revlid]

I just don't like the "Deathknight Needs a Hug Badly" title because, as has been said, the obsession with Secret in these threads is already at mildly uncomfortable levels. She's cute, yes, and a Woobie, but it can be taken to the point of weirdness. Marena's lost just as much, Karen's a fair martyr, and I'm prepared to bet Misho's backstory has some solid tragedy in it.

Keychain of Creation 4: To Post, You Need One Dot of Lore

Say it out loud.

And as for the Grammarites - you're arguing over the English tongue, a language so debased it's practically floating. A third of its words are either stolen or were made up on the spot by authors, graffiti artists, or bloggers. Calm down a little.

[Jokasti]

I like it. :ten:

[Gez]

http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=156744

If you don't like that title, you should have argued less and created new threads more.

[The Tygre]

http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=156744

If you don't like that title, you should have argued less and created new threads more.

Heh, damn straight.