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Hehe, I think I got that one wrong. I'm so racist.
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I'm going to take a wild guess and say that the other girl is a yuki-onna. Or should that be yuki-shojo?
Which is probably why she's wearing an aodai.Last edited by Prime32; 2010-07-01 at 04:32 PM.
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Not exactly. Japanese has become it's own language, with it's own phonemes and such.
And they don't mean Ng as in the English "Nn-guh". They mean something like a Voiced Velar Nasal, probably. I'm not sure, I haven't studied any Chinese Language.
And there's no such thing as The Chineses Language. That's like saying The Indian Language.
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It's "Yuen" or "Ruan" in Chinese. And in their alphabet, it's 阮.
And yeah, it's supposed to be a velar nasal ŋ, like the "ng" at the end a present participle in English. It's just that in English, this sound is always at the end of a word (and sometimes simplified into an "n"), whereas here it's at the beginning.
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Something like that, "Ng" can't be pronounced without a vowel sound between but Japanese (and any Chinese language, I presume) isn't romanised like that and as such it would be impossible to write Ng in Japanese Kanji.
@Zersk: I should probably have said "Chinese language and culture stuff", my bad
I know there's a lot of Chinese languages (Most notably Mandarin) but I was using it as a generic term, bad grammar on my part but still better than using the wrong language.
*Checks what Velar Nasal means on Wikipedia*
Man, phonetics are confusing
EDIT: Lunar'd
@Gez: Groovy, oddly it looks equally cool as Nguyen, Yuen and Ruan which means I will bestealingborrowing those names for something in the near futureLast edited by Mina Kobold; 2010-07-02 at 02:43 PM.
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I'm a Grammar Nazi. I can and will pick up small, seemingly insignificant things in your post.
It's just that Japanese doesn't have the same writing system that we do. By that logic, you shouldn't be able to write Shi. But you can. Because in Japanese, that's a single kana. But Japanese doesn't even have a Ng sound, so that's not the problem.
When you hear sounds in another language, don't think of them with an english alphabet. Think of them with the IPA, or their own alphabet.Last edited by Maximum Zersk; 2010-07-02 at 02:44 PM.
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I'm a manga geek, of course I know how Japanese work
I claim that there have to be a vowel between N and G when romanising Kanji and other Japanese alphabets not S and H Just like in spoken English.
The difference between the alphabets (as I see it) is thatEnglishthe Latin alphabet have letters that are unpronounceable without a vowel-sound while Japanese is more phonetic.Treasured Quotes
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True, true. But this conversation should be about the Chinese Syllable System.
Wikipedia says this about the subject.
Syllables consist maximally of an initial consonant, a glide, a vowel, a final, and tone. Not every syllable that is possible according to this rule actually exists in Mandarin, as there are rules prohibiting certain phonemes from appearing with others, and in practice there are only a few hundred distinct syllables.
C(l,r)VC
Or something to that effect.
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Benjamin Hewlitt?
Is that to a children's card game or something?
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Kim seems far more likely to create a Pactio, but there weren't any suitable pictures.
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That's a TvTropes link, but it's pretty relevant.
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Ken Akamatsu: "I'm tired of all these harem comedies, I want to draw this guy fighting this guy."
Editor: "Quiet you. Now give us another harem comedy."
Akamatsu: "But-"
Editor: "No buts."
Akamatsu: "...all right, I'll give you a 'harem comedy'. "
Editor: "Why are you making air quotes?"
Akamatsu: "No reason."
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*First two volumes come out.*
Editor: Well, this looks good. Now it'll stay this way.
Ken Akamatsu: Yeah, sure. Whatever.
Editor: Why are you making that face?
Ken Akamatsu: What face?
Editor: That face.
Ken Akamatsu: I have no idea what you're talking about.
Editor: Well, okay. Now I am going to look that way and completely ignore what you are going to do with this manga. Oh hey look a bird.
Ken Akamatsu: ...
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???: "All your harem are belong to me."
Protagonist: "No! If only I were stronger!"
???: "Your father was the greatest mage ever who saved the world."
Protagonist: "Then I must train to be just as great, while engaging in epic battles and learning the true meaning of friendship."
???: "You can start with this plot involving martial arts tournaments, time travel and robots."
Kaworu Nagisa: "O hai thar."
Editor: "PRETTY bird!"Last edited by Prime32; 2010-07-02 at 03:56 PM.
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