GitP/ChHa Server Thread IV: For Science. You Monster.

[SciurusDoomus]

Ladies, Gents, Nightclaw.

Golden Wrenches. Craft faster. Go now.

I want all my updates done by the end of this week. This is a unorthodox way to release an update, 25 GWs at a time. Strange, show-boaty and very blunt.

Please, for the love of Djinn, [expletive]ing craft those Golden Wrenches.

Scout: I'M DYIN' HERE!

PS: Nightclaw, good to see you, mate. Just in time for the Update. Play nice, eh?

Also, recrafting a token (so that you only use one item) does NOT work for getting the wrench. So don't do it. I lost five or six items to doing that thinking I was clever. If someone finds it on ChHa, I'll be happy. No matter who it is.

[onasuma]

I have 3 refined now - gonna hat craft on the server later on and get a golden wrench at the same time as my heavy duty rag. Optimism pays off!

[SciurusDoomus]

I have 3 refined now - gonna hat craft on the server later on and get a golden wrench at the same time as my heavy duty rag. Optimism pays off!

Me too! (Three Two refined, one scrap, and one reclaimed.)

I'll not race you, Onasuma.

[nightclaw]

nightclaw's super secret finder service is up again~

CLICKING EVERYWHERE IS FUN!

http://www.teamfortress.com/engineerupdate/radigan/

[Phantom123]

Any chance that we can either keep the server passworded for regulars, or else otherwise somehow lower key, for sake of achievements and such on evening one? Hell, we could do it the other way around, and keep it closed for normal play, since everyone who comes on will WANT to do achievements. Either we do them ourselves in an organized way, or we keep others out of it, since otherwise, the game just becomes a wreck =P

[onasuma]

Dont achievement farm on the server when its asked to be in use - Even ive been told off for that in the past.

If you wanted to lock the server for, say, an evening of fun maps, i think that would be different, but achievement farming... not so much.

[Djinn_in_Tonic]

Any chance that we can either keep the server passworded for regulars, or else otherwise somehow lower key, for sake of achievements and such on evening one? Hell, we could do it the other way around, and keep it closed for normal play, since everyone who comes on will WANT to do achievements. Either we do them ourselves in an organized way, or we keep others out of it, since otherwise, the game just becomes a wreck =P

It's POSSIBLE, but I'm really quite hesitant to do such a thing. While some people will be trying for the achievements, others WILL want to play, and that will be true even amongst our regulars...

Basically, playing towards achievements is fine. Asking others to stop the game to help you get them is NOT fine, unless they'd still be having fun (for instance: asking me once to play Demoman for a bit so you can kill Demomen might be alright, but asking multiple people over and over, or after I've said no, would not be fine).

[Volug]

There's always SHAFT

[Valaqil]

Any chance that we can either keep the server passworded for regulars, or else otherwise somehow lower key, for sake of achievements and such on evening one? Hell, we could do it the other way around, and keep it closed for normal play, since everyone who comes on will WANT to do achievements. Either we do them ourselves in an organized way, or we keep others out of it, since otherwise, the game just becomes a wreck =P

After the WAR! update, a number of us discussed it over alltalk and found an empty instant-respawn server. They're not too difficult to find, esp. at the right time of night. I remember the group of us spending a lot of time blowing each other up on Harvest that night. Do the same. If you think that getting the achievements will be too difficult around the people who want to play regular matches, you shouldn't have any trouble finding others who want to grind them out as well.

[Scuzzball]

Me too! (Three Two refined, one scrap, and one reclaimed.)

I'll not race you, Onasuma.

I'm one scrap away from three refined. Problem is, I prefer to have at least one of each item(Even though I just crafted several of those away...)

[Fawkes]

See, I think that trying to fight achievement farming and play only regular rounds on Day One of the new update is gonna be a losing battle, and really more trouble than it's worth.

Even if no one is strictly farming, there's going to be so many engies that regular games are going to be moving at such a bizarre pace.

I think that, for the first couple days, we just need to accept that the server's gonna be weird, and focus only on those who are being an outright nuisance.

[Flickerdart]

You mean you don't want to see mecha-battles? Robot versus robot? For shame!

Besides, many Engies means many Spies means many Pyros means many Snipers. It will balance itself out.

[Vitruviansquid]

1. Everyone plays engi
2. We release demomen, soldiers, and medics to take care of the engi infestation
3. We release pyros and heavies to clear the demomen and soldiers problem
4. We release scouts, spies, and snipers to kill the oversupply of heavies and pyros.
5. We release 5,000 pound man-eating gorillas to kill off the Scouts, spies, and snipers.
6. Everybody's happy.

[Phantom123]

See, I think that trying to fight achievement farming and play only regular rounds on Day One of the new update is gonna be a losing battle, and really more trouble than it's worth.

Even if no one is strictly farming, there's going to be so many engies that regular games are going to be moving at such a bizarre pace.

I think that, for the first couple days, we just need to accept that the server's gonna be weird, and focus only on those who are being an outright nuisance.

Pretty much what I mean =P We prolly oughta try to decide what we wanna do. I only say it because I know that normal games will be tough to run, and the regulars will almost (guaranteed) all be likely to get shut out of the server. Server is already full 24/7 practically, and now it'll be full + bonus people just looking to play engie :P

If we password something, regulars can hang out and either play normal rounds OR do said achievement mongering. More specifically, regular rounds (since I'm sure everyone here has somewhere else they could go for the achievement stuff if they wanna). I'm just saying it now, so people can discuss if they wanna take any action before thursday-friday.

[Jibar]

I'm all for adding a password for a couple of days.
Just like GITP or something simple, as with the update all the regulars will want to be on and if we can't get on our server we're gonna feel real silly.
And then it's simply a matter of who's on as to whether its achievement hunting or regular game.
(Depending on said achievements, I'll probably be doing a regular game or helping people get their achievements. Just throwing that out there.)

[mightymonarch]

If we password something, regulars can hang out and either play normal rounds OR do said achievement mongering. More specifically, regular rounds (since I'm sure everyone here has somewhere else they could go for the achievement stuff if they wanna). I'm just saying it now, so people can discuss if they wanna take any action before thursday-friday.

Now with a second server, under the evil reign of Drolkcal and Dr Girlfriend. It's password protected and the regular password is "chha". Don't join if the server is hosting a competitive match

More Info:

If there isn't anybody on, invite a few friends.

[Byrnbot08]

There's always SHAFT

I believe you mean:

There's always... the SHaFT. *INSERT DRAMATIC CHORD*

[Phantom123]

I believe you mean:

There's always... the SHaFT. *INSERT DRAMATIC CHORD*

I can not find SHaFT in my internet list, and no one is online it... Any idea how to get on? XD If I favorite it, it'll be good, but I don't remember where to plug the IP address in to join

[watsyurname529]

I can not find SHaFT in my internet list, and no one is online it... Any idea how to get on? XD If I favorite it, it'll be good, but I don't remember where to plug the IP address in to join

It should be on the first post. Then go to Servers the Favorites and click Add Favorite and enter the IP address.

[Treayn]

Yeah, I'd go with just using SHaFT for achievements.

Also, we having another maptest anytime soon?

[AlterForm]

Should we schedule a general achievement party on SHaFT, then? Push out an event to the ChHa steam group?

[Scuzzball]

Should we schedule a general achievement party on SHaFT, then? Push out an event to the ChHa steam group?

Indeed! If we start now, (just anyone who wants achievements) we will get milestones. The milestones will give us weapons, which we can then craft. We can then craft to try to get golden wrenches. Also, I crafted the soldiers stash on the server today.

[SciurusDoomus]

I'll probably be on SHaFT after 5 EST until midnight. See y'all there.

[Phantom123]

I'll probably be on SHaFT after 5 EST until midnight. See y'all there.

I'll go! I love helping people do achievements; makes me feel better if I ask them to help me on any of mine :P

[Vitruviansquid]

Speaking of achievements, info on the next Engi item is up.

... I'm underwhelmed. :\

[Byrnbot08]

Speaking of achievements, info on the next Engi item is up.

... I'm underwhelmed. :\

Thought it'd be the Shotgun which got that property, but alas. Still quite interesting new use of existing materials. Like the name of some of the achievements though.

Edit: I just realised. Now 2 Engies with Lvl 3 Sentries can create a form of makeshift artillery. THIS IS EPIC

[Player_Zero]

We'll have to see how it's implemented. If it's easy to use; can kill spies with it, people edging, etc. Then it may well be a decent alternative.

[dromer]

I can imagine this making the sentry a makeshift heavy machine gun placement. Still, can the engineers do it remotely? i.e. from spawn?
Also, calling one of the taunts as a guitar, and that 100 wrenches unlocks a new sentry and Meet the Medic/Pyro.

[Dispozition]

I think I approve of this, but I'm not sure.

It'll make turtling harder to break, but it definitely helps combat engie. I'm interested to see this one in action.

[Jahkaivah]

It'll make turtling harder to break, but it definitely helps combat engie.

Wouldn't be so sure about turtling, given the vulnerbilities it creates I think it might be deemed a liability to use it when under the pressure turtlers can expect.

One thing that bugs me about it is that it allows the engineer to break the range constraints of the guns. Sentries are too accurate to make long range attacks bearable. I hope Valve will address that.