Arena Tournament, Round 96: Anisimovna & Lyir Torsis vs. Aguacatl & Die Tierhüter

[Psionic Dog]

@Refs

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Anisimovna

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LoS established when you reach M12:
Die Tierhüter (E19) holding scroll
Aguacatl (E17) holding scroll.
No LoS to the canines.

Aguacatl

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You see Die Tierhüter (E19) and his pets (E22, E20). Nothing else.

Die Tierhüter

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You see only Aguacatl (E17) plus your two pets.

Still Anisimovna's go.

(This LoS check shamelessly sponsored by the needs LoS foundation.)

[candycorn]

Anisimovna, Continued:

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...Buh? They completely gave up the high ground? And to go to where I used to be? They're playing WAY too timid for such odds. If they'd kept up more pressure on me, I'd be fighting for a breath til my buffs ran out. Oh well, I shan't look this gift horse in the mouth.

Continue to L12 (I should still have cover, so should still be able to hide).

Attack (volley, 3 spines) @Aguacatl.

Attack 1 (vs Aguacatl): (1d20+10)[16] vs FF
Damage: (1d6+1)[4]

Attack 2 (vs Aguacatl): (1d20+10)[12] vs FF
Damage: (1d6+1)[2]

Attack 3 (vs Aguacatl): (1d20+10)[11] vs FF
Damage: (1d6+1)[5]

After that, I should become visible in L12.

Done.

Stats:

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Location: L12
HP: 4/4
AC: 20 (+2 Size, +6 Dex, +2 Pillar), FF 14, Touch 20
In Hand: Light Crossbow, Scroll (Blank)

Spells:

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Mage Hand x5

Reduce Person
Expeditious Retreat
Enlarge Person
Ray of Clumsiness

Investiture of the Spined Devil

Effects Active: Reduce Person 10/20, Expeditious Retreat 9/20, Travel Devotion 8/10, Investiture of the Spined Devil 4/30 (9/15 shots remaining)

[Wildgeist]

Der Tierhüter Round 12

@Refs/LoS

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AnC @E22

Standard: Total Defense.



WiC @E20

Standard: Total Defense.




Tierhüter

Free: Drop Scroll.
Swift: Move to E18 (Last Turn of travel Devotion)
Standard: Cast a spell:

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Cast Cure Light Wounds upon Aguacatl.
(1d8+2)[7] hp cured

Move: Grab Scroll.

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STATS

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Der Tierhuter Started @E19
Der Tierhuter Ended @E18

AnC Started @E22
AnC Ended @E22

WiC Started @E20
WiC Ended @E20



HP 9/9
AC 18 (10 +2 Armor +2 Shield +3 Dexterity +1 Size) T 14 FF 18


Travel Devotion: 10/10



Bullets Left: 20 Carried of a total of 20 Owned

Bullets Used: 0


Good Hand Wielding: Scroll
Off Hand Wielding: Shield


Backpack:
Alchemist Fire X2


Spells Prepared:
Level 0
Flare
Guidance
Virtue

Level 1
Summon Natures Ally I
Cure Light Wounds

[candycorn]

@Refs:

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Did my attack disable Aguacatl or knock him unconscious?

[Scorer]

Aguacatl 13th Turn


AGUACATL
Move: Stand up
Standard: Ready an Action

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To move if Anisimovna attacks me or moves out of LoS

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TUNATL
Move: G22

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STATS

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Aguacatl started @ E17
Aguacatl ended @ E17
HP 5/5
AC 21 (10 +6 dex, +1 size, +2 armor, +2 shield) Touch 17 FF 15

99 Sling bullets left
(0 carried)

Hand 1 Wielding: None
Hand 2 Wielding: Shield
Mouth: Nothing

Scroll (1x Entangle, 3x Produce Flame [1x entangle, 2x Produce Flame used])@E17

Spells Prepared:

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L0 - Cure Minor wounds x3
L1 - Cure Light Wounds, Cure Light Wounds

Scroll of heat metal used up.

Tunatl started @H22
Tunatl ended @G22
HP 13/13
AC 16 (10 +2 dex, +4 natural armor) Touch 12 FF 14

No summons yet

[candycorn]

I think I'm gonna need LOS before I continue. I know that I should have hit with 1 attack there, and that it should have either disabled or knocked Aguacatl out (depending on how many HP Tierhuter restored the first time he healed you). I just need to know which, and what actions were taken. (For future reference, when you know I can see you, it speeds things up when you unspoiler the parts of your turn that I can see... Then I don't need to wait for a ref to sort everything out.)

[Scorer]

actually, you can open my spoiler.... shouldn't have been spoilered now that I think of it, as you have LoS with me

[candycorn]

So, you had to stand up... That means you were knocked unconscious... And you took a full round's worth of actions, which means you're not disabled now... Which means Tierhuter healed you again, for at least 2 hp. Which means that he's stacked his level 1 slots with cure spells (unless he had better luck finding a level 0 spell that heals 2+ hp than I did).

I was afraid of that. I mean, I half expected it, but still, it makes it hard to shoot you to death.

Spellcraft for Tierhuter's turn, if applicable: (1d20+8)[12]

EDIT: Sigh. I really miss good rolls.

[Scorer]

and we're waiting on what?

[candycorn]

I posted a request for LOS. I don't generally check spoilers without a ref or player telling me to, on account of possible information I shouldn't have.

For example, when you first told me I could open your spoiler, information about Tunatl's movement was in there, despite the fact that the animal moved somewhere I don't have LOS to. I tried to ignore it, but I don't want that happening without being told.

I'm waiting for a ref to give me LOS for tierhuter's action.

[candycorn]

Tell you what. Provided the following are true: (anyone can read)

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1) My attack on Aguacatl in round 12 hit once for 4 damage.
2) That 4 damage rendered Aguacatl unconscious (which I would assume reduces Aguacatl's HP to at least -1).
3) Tierhuter cast a spell which rendered Aguacatl conscious and able to take both a move and standard action (requiring healing of at least 2 HP).

Then the only way I can see that all happening, is that Tierhuter has expended both his level 1 spells curing you, and cannot have any more left. If that's true, then:

Anisimovna, Round 13:

Standard: Ready an action:

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Attack Aguacatl with a volley if he attempts any action or ends turn.

Done.

[Wildgeist]

Tierhüter free action

Speak: Do you see Anasimovna, Aguacatl??? Where is she???

[Scorer]

She's in L12 right now.

[Psionic Dog]

I posted a request for LOS. I don't generally check spoilers without a ref or player telling me to, on account of possible information I shouldn't have.

For example, when you first told me I could open your spoiler, information about Tunatl's movement was in there, despite the fact that the animal moved somewhere I don't have LOS to. I tried to ignore it, but I don't want that happening without being told.

I'm waiting for a ref to give me LOS for tierhuter's action.

Suggestion: Post & Label LoS spoilers by creature, so players can view what they have LoS to.

Anisimovna

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From L12 you gained LoS to LoS to Tunatl (H22).
Your attack hits Aguacatl, knocking her unconscious.
Die Tierhüter then moves to E18, drops the scroll, casts a spell, and then picks the scroll back up.
Aguacatl then stands back up, and readies an action.
Tunatl apparently moves west back out of LoS.

Aguacatl

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Anisimovna is now visible in L12, otherwise no change.

Curiosity: why did Tunatl only move to G22 and not say, E19? Last I heard (Round 11) Tunatl's orders were to seek clockwise around the southwester point.

Die Tierhüter

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Anisimovna is innow visible in L12, otherwise no change.

[Wildgeist]

Der Tierhüter Round 13


AnC @E22

Move: Double move to J12.


WiC @E20

Move: Double move to L13.

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Tierhüter


Standard: Ready an action:

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To take a 5 feet step and cast Produce Flame from scroll if Anasimovna attacks me.

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STATS

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Der Tierhuter Started @E18
Der Tierhuter Ended @E18

AnC Started @E22
AnC Ended @J12

WiC Started @E20
WiC Ended @L13



HP 9/9
AC 18 (10 +2 Armor +2 Shield +3 Dexterity +1 Size) T 14 FF 18



Bullets Left: 20 Carried of a total of 20 Owned

Bullets Used: 0


Good Hand Wielding: Scroll
Off Hand Wielding: Shield


Backpack:
Alchemist Fire X2


Spells Prepared:
Level 0
Flare
Guidance
Virtue

Level 1
Summon Natures Ally I
Cure Light Wounds

[Scorer]

Aguacatl delays until after Anisimovna's turn

[candycorn]

Awaiting resolution of ref question in waiting room.

[Scorer]

Never thought that delaying would provoke such a delay

(Sorry, had to say it hehehehe )

[candycorn]

Anisimovna, Round 13:

Swift: Move east, out of LOS.

Remainder:

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to P12, then back to L12.

Hide: (1d20+16)[17]
MS: (1d20+11)[21]

Turn not over.

[candycorn]

If your spot check with a -6 distance penalty does not beat a 17, this volley attack vs Aguacatl is vs Flat footed AC.

Attack: (1d20+8)[28] (+2 more if unseen, and vs FF AC)
Damage: (1d6+1)[7]

Attack: (1d20+8)[10] (+2 more if unseen, and vs FF AC)
Damage: (1d6+1)[2]

Attack: (1d20+8)[27] (+2 more if unseen, and vs FF AC)
Damage: (1d6+1)[4]

After that, I become visible in L12.

Move: Out of LOS to the east.

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Ending in V9

[candycorn]

Critical Threat: (1d20+8)[9] (+2 more if unseen)
Damage: (1d6+1)[5]

EDIT: Done.

[Wildgeist]

@ Anasimovna

Question: When you moved east out of LoS in the round beggining I assume you used Travel Devotion. What I'm not sure is if that causes an AoO from my dog or not....

[Scorer]

it does.

it also triggers my readied action.

Move out of LoS to:

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E21

[candycorn]

I believe I have cover from the animal at L13, which prevents AoO's.

In addition, it does NOT trigger your readied action, because you have no readied action to trigger. That was precisely what I was asking in the waiting room. Readied actions last until the beginning of your next turn. When your turn started, you may have Delayed it, but it still began.

EIDT:Here's the ruling. You may now look in the spoiler.

[Scorer]

Ok, again I'm out then... however you do get AoO from the dog... you have no cover

[candycorn]

Ok, again I'm out then... however you do get AoO from the dog... you have no cover

When making a melee attack against an adjacent target, your target has cover if any line from your square to the target’s square goes through a wall (including a low wall). When making a melee attack against a target that isn’t adjacent to you (such as with a reach weapon), use the rules for determining cover from ranged attacks.

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The image shows a line from the dog's square to the target's square that goes through a wall. Thus, there is cover.

[Wildgeist]

I also think there's no cover.... In case it's not determined otherwise...

WiC AoO

Attack: (1d20+3)[8]
Damage: (1d6+3)[6]

Only if Crit:

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Attack: (1d20+3)[11]
Damage: (1d6+3)[7]

If attack is succesfull, trip attempt

(1d20+2)[3]

[candycorn]

Well, the issue is irrelevant, because the roll missed anyway, but my image shows that cover exists vs melee attacks.

[Scorer]

Well, the issue is irrelevant, because the roll missed anyway, but my image shows that cover exists vs melee attacks.

Not that dog, the other dog...

[candycorn]

Ah, well, in that case, the AoO missed, so it's Tierhuter's turn. And I don't think he can get you up from 11 damage this time. At best, you're at -6, and he's already used both of his level 1 spells healing you.