MtG - Conflux

[Wizibirb]

Night end

SCRIES HAPPENED!

Day begin

[Reinholdt]

Qwaz for being a part of the only group with two members.

[Deathslayer7]

*puts up a sign that says my vote is for sale*

[Deathslayer7]

Qwaz! Reinholdt convinced me.

[Gray Mage]

Qwaz! Reinholdt convinced me.

So, you're going to kill a member of the team that still has a beast? Reinholdt for me.

[Onime-no-Enishi]

Qwaz, he may be in the team with the beast, but he is also in the team with 2 members remaining =p

[Qwaz]

THE team with 2 players. No....that's a lie. unless i'm much mistaken reinholdt and Onime-no-Enishi are a team

DS7 is a neutral.

I and gray mage are naya. No need to hide that now. If you kill me and I take out one of Rein or Onime then it's a 3 way tie...otherwise...

[Reinholdt]

THE team with 2 players. No....that's a lie. unless i'm much mistaken reinholdt and Onime-no-Enishi are a team

DS7 is a neutral.

I and gray mage are naya. No need to hide that now. If you kill me and I take out one of Rein or Onime then it's a 3 way tie...otherwise...

I'm Bant and Onime is Grixis.

[Qwaz]

ok. fair enough. kill me then

[Deathslayer7]

Well I did Void Qwaz last night. I don't know if that stops a beast ability though.

[Reinholdt]

There's a 50% chance he's the beast and not lying. Then only a 50% chance it'll even go off. Then only a one in three chance it'll hit any individual person.

That's an 8% chance of dying. If it isn't voided.
I'll take my chances in favor of making the game far more interesting at this stage.

[Deathslayer7]

crap nevermind. forgot to send it in apprently. <.<

[Onime-no-Enishi]

theres no need for fear, i scryed gray mage ages ago, hes the beast.

[Qwaz]

Out of interest DS7...what was the incentive Reinholdt offered you to vote for me?

As a counter, I can offer you outliving at least Onime-no-Enishi & Reinholdt if you switch your vote to Reinholdt. Even live outright if Sanity allows GM and I to win with a majority. Think it over

[Onime-no-Enishi]

theres no point in out-living >>; theres only win or lose, killing anyone but a naya would mean a loss for all 3 of us. if it means a very small chance of winning, or a definite chance to lose... id try my luck with a small chance of winning =p

[Reinholdt]

Out of interest DS7...what was the incentive Reinholdt offered you to vote for me?

As a counter, I can offer you outliving at least Onime-no-Enishi & Reinholdt if you switch your vote to Reinholdt. Even live outright if Sanity allows GM and I to win with a majority. Think it over

Neither me nor Onime have any reason to kill DS7. He's going to outlive all of us regardless of your promises.

[Deathslayer7]

theres no point in out-living >>; theres only win or lose, killing anyone but a naya would mean a loss for all 3 of us. if it means a very small chance of winning, or a definite chance to lose... id try my luck with a small chance of winning =p

a very small chance of losing for you. You being the keyword there. Don't mix me in with all your be the last shard standing jumbo. Won't work on me.

@ Qwaz: And he offered me amusement. But you're not helping your case by threatening my lifespan when you can't do much to me besides lynching me, and even then it's not in anyone's interest to lynch me. Sure I'm an uncontrollable, unaccountable and random problem that no one can account for, but that's why I'm fun.

[Onime-no-Enishi]

a very small chance of losing for you. You being the keyword there. Don't mix me in with all your be the last shard standing jumbo. Won't work on me.

@ Qwaz: And he offered me amusement. But you're not helping your case by threatening my lifespan when you can't do much to me besides lynching me, and even then it's not in anyone's interest to lynch me. Sure I'm an uncontrollable, unaccountable and random problem that no one can account for, but that's why I'm fun.

from my understanding, last shard standing wins.

im not sure how neutral works, but according to sanity, they have the same victory condition too.

in which case:
if we dont kill qwaz/graymage today, we WILL lose (thus, definite chance to lose); or if we do kill 1 of them today, each of us have a small chance of winning (roughly 25% each, because theres 1 of each shard left and a neutral). Thus, Small chance of winning or definite chance of losing =P that was what i meant.

[Deathslayer7]

from my understanding, last shard standing wins.

im not sure how neutral works, but according to sanity, they have the same victory condition too.

in which case:
if we dont kill qwaz/graymage today, we WILL lose (thus, definite chance to lose); or if we do kill 1 of them today, each of us have a small chance of winning (roughly 25% each, because theres 1 of each shard left and a neutral). Thus, Small chance of winning or definite chance of losing =P that was what i meant.

my victory condition was to kill all the other planeswalkers. So I have finished it. To me, who is the last shard standing doesn't matter to me as I belong to no shard. Hence why I'm a neutral. I don't see how you are still confusing this.

[Onime-no-Enishi]

well, that part i do not know. first time in this type of game, and no rulings for neutrals were mentioned at all other than that they exist in the game >>;

Cant blame me for not knowing.

[Wizibirb]

well, that part i do not know. first time in this type of game, and no rulings for neutrals were mentioned at all other than that they exist in the game >>;

Cant blame me for not knowing.

That was done on purpose FYI, he could be lying about his wing condition.

[Lex-Kat]

He could be lying about his win condition, also.

[Gray Mage]

@Deathslayer: We may not lynch you, but would you risk a beast kill on you even if it's a low chance? If you're talking the truth, joining me and Qwaz means certain win for you.

[Reinholdt]

Absolute certainty is boring. Not that it matters. DS7 is certain to win anyways. He doesn't have to point at the beast tomorrow and the description says it can only take out one of its attackers.

[Deathslayer7]

@Deathslayer: We may not lynch you, but would you risk a beast kill on you even if it's a low chance? If you're talking the truth, joining me and Qwaz means certain win for you.

yes. yes I would. You see, I already won, so it doesn't matter to me if I get killed or not. So in that sense, I already have a "certain" win under my belt. I just had to outlive the other planswalkers, not survive.

But to answer your question, why would I make this easy for you?

You had Qwaz contact me, and then nothing else. If you really wanted my help now, you should have asked for it earlier.

[Gray Mage]

yes. yes I would. You see, I already won, so it doesn't matter to me if I get killed or not. So in that sense, I already have a "certain" win under my belt. I just had to outlive the other planswalkers, not survive.

But to answer your question, why would I make this easy for you?

You had Qwaz contact me, and then nothing else. If you really wanted my help now, you should have asked for it earlier.

Because I'm a good guy that'll eventually help you on the next USB (if there's a next one and you'd narrate it).

Edit:Btw, Qwaz told me he'd contact you, so I didn't want to fill your PM box even more.

[Deathslayer7]

tempting, but I doubt I'll narrate a next USB. A lot of effort goes into that espcially with vote switching and all the night actions, and maintaining it.

But if you enjoyed it, you should help anyway.

edit @ edit: he did but the next pm he was like "nevermind. Just ignore what I said."

[Gray Mage]

tempting, but I doubt I'll narrate a next USB. A lot of effort goes into that espcially with vote switching and all the night actions, and maintaining it.

But if you enjoyed it, you should help anyway.

edit @ edit: he did but the next pm he was like "nevermind. Just ignore what I said."

I didn't know he PM you that afterwards. I don't suppose you could nevermind the nevermind?

[Qwaz]

I contacted you but you'ld already won so I left it.

In the vote for grabs scenario we have now though there's no reason to vote with Rein today when you'll be fair game to him tomorrow.

1) Kill rein today.
2) We will go for omine tomorrow.
3) If Sanity will allow naya to call it a day as a win there then we will and you'll survive.
4) Otherwise then & only then will you die having outlived everyone as well as winning.

I'm not threatening your lifespan at all...i'm offering garuntee's as to it's longevity!

If you'ld rather take whatever giggles Reinholdt is offering then good on you and have a blast. You've already won so this is completely your show now.

Edit: Also - i didn't ask you to ignore what I said. I'd just scried you as the neutral and was going to suggest an alliance. When you said you'ld already won all i responded with was

Ahh right. Never mind then

There was nothing major in the deal for you then so i left it be...nothing weird about it.

[Onime-no-Enishi]

on the flip side, if qwaz dies now, you get a chance to play "god" by deciding who you want to win =P (graymage having a higher chance to win, rofl)