Goblins V: It's Hard-Kore!

[averagejoe]

Actually, it's pretty hard to tell with the Dies storyline - it may well have been skipping around in time in relation to the GAP, but there's been no clear markers.

It'd be nice if Thunt showed the phases of the moon in the background or something, so there'd be some clue about how the different storylines fit together chronologically.

This has actually long been one of my most consistent criticisms of the strip. The cuts are always jarring, and misleading with regards to time. It's not a huge thing, but it kinda bugs me.

[Traab]

Ive basically looked at it as, each time they switch its basically resetting to about the point the last chunk of the story ended. So dies horribly ended up a slave about the time that senor vorpal got captured. That sort of thing. Its not precise, but they always cross over eventually which lets us resync the timelines for the seperate stories.The only issue is, with the minmax team going on their dungeon crawl, im not sure how the timeline can match up with the goblin adventure party. Unless they spent a lot of off camera time walking, they didnt get very far past the escape from the city before Kore showed up. /sigh Of course, we cant even be sure how much after the escape minmax even showed up.

[Draconi Redfir]

has anyone just considered asking Thunt the timeframe while he is drawing live?

[Agi Hammerthief]

has anyone just considered asking Thunt the timeframe while he is drawing live?

and kill a perfectly good debate?

[averagejoe]

The actual timeline isn't that important. The problem is the composition and juxtaposition of scenes is misleading. The problem isn't that I don't know what's happening when, the problem is I'm quite sure the timing is such that the composition of scenes implies a different time frame than what's happening.

[Agi Hammerthief]

I think of the comic as of running in the here and now:
it's always the present (unless obviously showing someones memory)
the only jump is in geography (from one group to another)

It's a very simple assumption, and its the only one required to make the comic work.

[Yuki Akuma]

Also, I gotta say, Kin is almost UNBEARABLY adorable when she gets that smile on her face. That whole birthday thing almost made me go SQEEEEEE!!! And im a guy!

Are you implying guys can't squee?

I find that insulting, sir.

[St Fan]

I think of the comic as of running in the here and now:
it's always the present (unless obviously showing someones memory)
the only jump is in geography (from one group to another)

It's a very simple assumption, and its the only one required to make the comic work.

There is however another possibility, that would avoid for the last perspective change to be a jump backward... that is if the Jade teapot that Minmax and Co. are searching for not only teleport its subjects through space, but also through time. After all, it's already described as a non-standard magical item, Kin may not be aware of all its powers. Hence, Minmax might be of higher level than the present when he shows up on the bridge...

[Traab]

Are you implying guys can't squee?

I find that insulting, sir.

Not at all, just that its harder to make a guy squee over something unbearably cute. And I notice you didnt deny that the whole scene was unbelievably cute. On a more serious note, I wonder when her utter terror over being touched is going to cause problems for the crew? You know there will come a time in the crawl where she will either be dangling over a cliff or minmax will, and itll be up to her to get over the horrific phobia in order to survive/save a life. "GRAB MY HAND KIN!" "DONT TOUCH ME!!!!!!"

[Sholos]

Not at all, just that its harder to make a guy squee over something unbearably cute.

Is it harder, or has society just deemed it less acceptable?

[Deme]

Is it harder, or has society just deemed it less acceptable?

Probably the latter, causing the former.... But it may actually be harder, given that the Squee reaction probably has stuff to do with babies, but the difference is probably negligable, and over a wide enough range would probably pass for a statistical anomoly due to individual reactions probably being more varied than gender-based reactions. Just my guess.

[Marnath]

Probably the latter, causing the former.... But it may actually be harder, given that the Squee reaction probably has stuff to do with babies, but the difference is probably negligable, and over a wide enough range would probably pass for a statistical anomoly due to individual reactions probably being more varied than gender-based reactions. Just my guess.

I would assume it's more that many guys can't physically do it. A true Squee is pretty high pitched, isn't it?

[averagejoe]

I would assume it's more that many guys can't physically do it. A true Squee is pretty high pitched, isn't it?

Actually men never lose the register they speak in as a child. It's just a matter of accessing it.

Edit: Not that I'm advocating going through all that work just so you can squee.

[TheSummoner]

Ok. I was avoiding the squee discussion, but that last bit made me curious. Please explain.

[averagejoe]

Ok. I was avoiding the squee discussion, but that last bit made me curious. Please explain.

You mean the stuff I said. I was referring to the fact that men have a Falsetto vocal register. I'm not hugely knowledgeable about this stuff, though, and mostly have the, "Well, that's kinda true, but not really," sort of knowledge about it. Bottom line is pretty much all men are capable of using a high voice.

[Surfing HalfOrc]

You mean the stuff I said. I was referring to the fact that men have a Falsetto vocal register. I'm not hugely knowledgeable about this stuff, though, and mostly have the, "Well, that's kinda true, but not really," sort of knowledge about it. Bottom line is pretty much all men are capable of using a high voice.

Tragically, I've lost my ability to use a falsetto. I could do a great "Filipina" back when I was in the Navy, but a bout with tongue cancer robbed me of that.

And I am a lifelong non-smoker, non-dipper, who only drinks socially. But after the radiation treatment thrashed my vocal cords, I can only use a slightly gravelly version of my "normal" voice. I also can't talk as much as I once could. But I have regained my ability to enjoy spicy foods, so that's a huge plus for me.

So while I might smile is a squee manner, the high pitched squee will never again escape my throat...

So the lesson here is to enjoy what you have, for you may not have it forever.

[Beriand]

I'm a pretty serious über lurker here, but for some reason decided to register just to clear this up:

Falsetto register works in a fundamentally different fashion from a child's modal register (speaking voice). Modal is a similar vocal fold function before and after a man's voice change, but with significantly larger folds after the fact (children have a falsetto register as well, separate from the speaking voice.) Also, if squeeing feels tense or painful, I would advise the squeer to cease all preventable squeeing.

... I'll try to contribute something less tangential in the future.

[Yuki Akuma]

I am a guy.

I can squee.

Therefore, at least one guy can squee.

Therefore, "guys can't squee" is logically invalid.

/logic

[Radar]

I am a guy.

I can squee.

Therefore, at least one guy can squee.

Therefore, "guys can't squee" is logically invalid.

/logic

Nitpick: a statement "guys can't squee" is invalid if at least two guys can squee. Fortunately I can squee, so there.

Also: Forgath might consider memorising Silence, to make his journey more enjoyable.

[Traab]

I never said that guys CANT squee, I said it was harder to make us. Also, I lost my ability to hit high notes after a month long battle with bronchitis and pneumonia. I was coughing so bad my throat was bleeding, I lost my voice for a couple weeks after that, and ever since, my voice hasnt been able to hit higher note values. So if a baritone squee counts I still can, I just cant get the proper ear piercing sound.

[Dragonus45]

Have you guys ever considered that in a normal time line the GAP are about to die painful deaths and have there corpses violated by a now beardless dwarf. But the jade teapot takes you to people. And if they happen to be dead when you ask to go meet them...

[DomaDoma]

Have you guys ever considered that in a normal time line the GAP are about to die painful deaths and have there corpses violated by a now beardless dwarf. But the jade teapot takes you to people. And if they happen to be dead when you ask to go meet them...

Then either it doesn't work or it takes you to the corpse? Anyway, the point is rather moot given that Minmax has already teleported.

[The Linker]

Then either it doesn't work or it takes you to the corpse? Anyway, the point is rather moot given that Minmax has already teleported.

I think his point was that the Jade Teapot would then take you back in time to when the target was alive.

[TheSummoner]

If that were the case, it would be a shame he teleported to Complains instead of say... Chief...

It would also mean Complains would be the next one Kore killed in this alternate future...

[Hands_Of_Blue]

Oh god.

Let us please not bring time travel, multiple timelines or any kind of wibbly wobbly timey wimey stuff into this.

[Lord Raziere]

Oh god.

Let us please not bring time travel, multiple timelines or any kind of wibbly wobbly timey wimey stuff into this.

I know who it is!

its the Goblins version of the Doctor, in a green TARDIS that is shaped like a jade teapot

[The Linker]

I would have said that half the characters are Time Lords, but I had assumed that was blatantly obvious.

[Dragonus45]

Well im still waiting for chief to regenerate, i wonder if his IME changes after that or if he gets a new one to go with the new body?

[Turalisj]

Chief is dead. He's not coming back, he's not regenerating.

[Draconi Redfir]

if the goblins are time lords, then Kore must be a Dalek.


Squishy organic insides covered by an impenetrable metal body, one eye, no emotions aside from anger, ranged weaponry, wishes to exterminate, shield...


yup. Totally a Dalek.