[3.5] Lists of Necessary Magic Items

[Claudius Maximus]

Yeah, sorry about that error. I'll try to actually research things if I ever dump items again.

[Draz74]

Yeah, sorry about that error. I'll try to actually research things if I ever dump items again.

Hey, no worries. It was still a great starting-list of initiative items, including some I had never heard of.

[zugschef]

Hey, no worries. It was still a great starting-list of initiative items, including some I had never heard of.

Especially the Ring of Anticipation is a GREAT item!

[powerdemon]

Wonderful thread! Thank you so much. I always love item suggestions.

[Partyrico]

I thought it was worth noting you could create a 2 charge overland flight spell item using the dmg rules for crafting magic items: 5 (spell level) * 9 (caster level) * 1,800 / 2.5 (5/number of uses a day) = 32,400, probably boots slot. This could conceivably last 18 hours of flight, but there's dispelling and you'll only have 40' (average) or 30' under medium or heavy load, or with medium or heavy armor. Cheaper, plus the slight bonus of falling safely for 1d6 rounds if dispelled. You could raise the caster level to 10, 11 or 12 and get 20, 22 or 24 hours for 36,000, 39,600, or 43,200 instead too, assuming you could find someone to make or buy it from.

[sreservoir]

sure, but the winged mask is at-will, lasts long enough that you won't shouldn't need to refresh it during an encounter and, being emulation of the actual spell, can be used on the rest of the party. (while you wear it. that's a bit silly, I admit.)

UMD horseshoes of flame on yourself is the best idea, though.

[carriewilsonn]

Great stuff! Thanks for posting the items which are required for magic and the site is very helpful.

[Ernir]

I thought it was worth noting you could create a 2 charge overland flight spell item using the dmg rules for crafting magic items: 5 (spell level) * 9 (caster level) * 1,800 / 2.5 (5/number of uses a day) = 32,400, probably boots slot. This could conceivably last 18 hours of flight, but there's dispelling and you'll only have 40' (average) or 30' under medium or heavy load, or with medium or heavy armor. Cheaper, plus the slight bonus of falling safely for 1d6 rounds if dispelled. You could raise the caster level to 10, 11 or 12 and get 20, 22 or 24 hours for 36,000, 39,600, or 43,200 instead too, assuming you could find someone to make or buy it from.

I think this is the method used to find the price of the Broom of Flying. It's effectively 1/day OLF, with some nuances whose net effect seems to have caused its price to have been rounded up.

But yes, the problem with an item like this is that the Winged Mask still completely blows it out of the water. =/

Great stuff! Thanks for posting the items which are required for magic and the site is very helpful.

Thanks.

[willpell]

In addition, miss chances resulting from Concealment mean you can not be Sneak Attacked.

Please forgive my ignorance, but could you point me to the rule you're referencing here?

[Ernir]

Please forgive my ignorance, but could you point me to the rule you're referencing here?

From the Rogue class description:

A rogue cannot sneak attack while striking a creature with concealment or striking the limbs of a creature whose vitals are beyond reach.

[danzibr]

I don't know if you're still updating this Ernir, but would you consider a list of must-have wands for UMD?

I see that you already have wands in a few places, but... well, I don't know much about wands, but it seems to me there'd be more must-have wands out there.

[Ernir]

I don't know if you're still updating this Ernir, but would you consider a list of must-have wands for UMD?

I see that you already have wands in a few places, but... well, I don't know much about wands, but it seems to me there'd be more must-have wands out there.

The thread isn't dead.

But no, I don't think I'll be adding generally useful wands (unless/when I actually get around to that miscellany section I've mentioned a few times for the last year or so). As-is, I'm listing items by purpose, not by item type.

[JeminiZero]

Shadowy Diadem [Dragon Magic 103] grants Concealment AND Immunity to Energy Drain for 1 minute as a swift action 3/day. All for a mere 4.4k gold.

[moritheil]

You listed the Glove of Storing but not the Ring of Arming, which stores both weapons and armor, and fast-equips you with them (so you can go to, say, a nobles' ball, dress casually, and be ready in an instant when the monsters attack.) MIC, 5,000 gp, which is more expensive than either the Gloves of the Master Strategist, or Glamered armor, but provides some of the benefits of both.

If a DM doesn't like the Gloves of the Master Strategist for the reasons you listed, this is an alternative.

[moritheil]

Wait, you're saying I can't have vorpal toenail clippings?

Can't wait to see the look on a player's face when that one goes down. "The elderly inventor, panicked at your sudden appearance, grabs the closest jar on the desk and flings it at you. It shatters, showering you with a bunch of toenail clippings. (rolls dice) Snick-snack, you are decapitated."

[Qwertystop]

It is, but do you have an item for that?

Shapechange wand?

[Cieyrin]

Shapechange wand?

I'd love to see how you get a 9th level spell in a wand, which are limited to 4th level. You'd need a staff or scroll for that.

[Qwertystop]

I'd love to see how you get a 9th level spell in a wand, which are limited to 4th level. You'd need a staff or scroll for that.

Forgot that rule...

Shapechange staff, or polymorph, or PAO.

[Answerer]

I'd love to see how you get a 9th level spell in a wand, which are limited to 4th level. You'd need a staff or scroll for that.

A scepter would work also.

[Soulean]

Saves - empyreal armor. Get magic vestments and get up to +5 sacred bonus to saves. BoED +2

Barricade buckler - 3/day create a 5 by 5 wall of force for 1 min. Tunnel blocker supreme. 4165g

Transmuting weapon enhancement - Hit target and next turn overcome their DR regardless of what it is. Can't find any rule anywhere that it can't overcome DR/epic. +2

Ghost shroud - natural attacks hit incorporeal creatures and 1 def AC. 5k

Belt of ultimate athleticism - take 10 on some physical skill checks including tumble and 1/day take 20. 3.6k

Shirt of the leech - 3/day steal a heal spell within 30 feet. Don't be fooled by the ability to auto identity heal spells of 4th or lower, doesn't say you can't steal a Heal spell. Also gives touch spells a range of 30 feet.... 8k

Vampiric Torc - 2/day heal have of the dmg on your next melee hit. Even on constructs/undead etc. 5k

Skin of power damping - spells that have dice to roll deal minimum damage 3/day. 10k

Mantle of second chances - reroll a d20 once per day 12k

amulet of fortune prevailing - reroll save 1/day 5k

Sphere of awakening - awakens all within 60' burst.... Not enough? Removes all fatigue and exhaustion and makes them immune to said effects for 10 minutes. 1800g (too expensive? its as party item so split the cost )

Eternal wands are probably worth their own section if you are so inclined.

Just a few gems I have written down. Not exactly sure where you'll put them all and I'm sure one or two at least have already been mentioned.

All items without a listed book should be from the MIC

[Cieyrin]

A scepter would work also.

Not quite, scepters only go up to 7th, which is still quite a bit but still not enough for Shapechange.

[Endarire]

This should so be a Handbook!

[Answerer]

Not quite, scepters only go up to 7th, which is still quite a bit but still not enough for Shapechange.

Really? That's... interesting/dumb. Oh well.

[Cieyrin]

Really? That's... interesting/dumb. Oh well.

They're supposed to be a compromise between wands and staves, so it makes sense in that respect. You can still Polymorph with a Wand or Scepter and Limited Wish is the classic use of Scepters.

[Ernir]

Time to catch up on more of those subscribed threads!

As for the whole shapechange/PaO discussion... it's still not going to make a very good list. Should I just chuck it on to the initiative list?

Shadowy Diadem [Dragon Magic 103] grants Concealment AND Immunity to Energy Drain for 1 minute as a swift action 3/day. All for a mere 4.4k gold.

Woah! Awesome!

I never really fished through Dragon Magic before. Found a find teleporting item too.

You listed the Glove of Storing but not the Ring of Arming, which stores both weapons and armor, and fast-equips you with them (so you can go to, say, a nobles' ball, dress casually, and be ready in an instant when the monsters attack.) MIC, 5,000 gp, which is more expensive than either the Gloves of the Master Strategist, or Glamered armor, but provides some of the benefits of both.

If a DM doesn't like the Gloves of the Master Strategist for the reasons you listed, this is an alternative.

Huh. Good enough. Added.

Saves - empyreal armor. Get magic vestments and get up to +5 sacred bonus to saves. BoED +2

Barricade buckler - 3/day create a 5 by 5 wall of force for 1 min. Tunnel blocker supreme. 4165g

Transmuting weapon enhancement - Hit target and next turn overcome their DR regardless of what it is. Can't find any rule anywhere that it can't overcome DR/epic. +2

Ghost shroud - natural attacks hit incorporeal creatures and 1 def AC. 5k

Belt of ultimate athleticism - take 10 on some physical skill checks including tumble and 1/day take 20. 3.6k

Shirt of the leech - 3/day steal a heal spell within 30 feet. Don't be fooled by the ability to auto identity heal spells of 4th or lower, doesn't say you can't steal a Heal spell. Also gives touch spells a range of 30 feet.... 8k

Vampiric Torc - 2/day heal have of the dmg on your next melee hit. Even on constructs/undead etc. 5k

Skin of power damping - spells that have dice to roll deal minimum damage 3/day. 10k

Mantle of second chances - reroll a d20 once per day 12k

amulet of fortune prevailing - reroll save 1/day 5k

Sphere of awakening - awakens all within 60' burst.... Not enough? Removes all fatigue and exhaustion and makes them immune to said effects for 10 minutes. 1800g (too expensive? its as party item so split the cost )

Eternal wands are probably worth their own section if you are so inclined.

Just a few gems I have written down. Not exactly sure where you'll put them all and I'm sure one or two at least have already been mentioned.

All items without a listed book should be from the MIC

Thanks for the list.

Most/some of them should find their way on to the miscellany list, when/if I get around to it one day.

This should so be a Handbook!

If I find my way over to the minmaxboards, sure.

Not going to happen until I really have this more or less completed, though. Maintaining threads on multiple forums is a real PitA.

[Lactantius]

Nice thread and good work!
I like the idea of using cool magic stuff without relying on items considered being banned by the DM (like, belt of battle).

One thing I must disagree:

The comparion between the ring of spell-battle and the ging of greater counterspells.
I consider the ring of greater counterspells as the better one between both of them.

Reasons:
1) You have the advantage of the ususal, core ring of counterspells. So, you have one free, automatic counterspell if you charge the ring with dispel magic or greater dispel magic.
2) The main ability of the ring of greater counterspells allows you to use a dispel effect similar to greater dispel magic.
Sure, you must still succeed on a CL-check. But you can apply a greater dispel effect while the ring of spell-battle goes only up to CL 10 (it is limited to a normal dispel magic spell).

Sure, the ring of spell-battle is a bit more versatile since you can just decide to redirect the spell instead of countering it. And you succeed automatically.

The ability to identify any spell being cast is not that worthy, IMHO.
Normally, as an arcane caster, you should accomplish in that discipline anyway.
Furthermore, you would make use of arcane sight on a daily routine.
At last,the ring of greater counterspells does not need any spellcraft check to identify the counterspelled spell.

Well, ideally, I would go so far and forge a perfect dispelling ring which consists of:
ring of (greater) counterspells + spell-battle + enduring arcana.
The costs are still managable and you would cover all your bases.

[Invader]

How about a section for healing items like the Healing Belt? It seems like often times healing is ineffective due to any number of things and magic healing items come in very handy.

[Ernir]

Lactantius - yes, the redirection ability of the Ring of Spell-Battle is the big seller. Countering a Dispel Magic by chucking it back at the caster is what makes it something unique. I don't think I've ever actually used the Dispel option of the item.

invaderk2 - huh. That's a rather universal need, yes. It's well documented elsewhere, but yes, it probably belongs.
Hell, this is one place where magic item reliance is always mentioned as a replacement for the classes that offer the feature!

[d_m]

Is there a reason Celestial armor is left off the flight list?

It's not that pricey, provides decent armor for some classes, and grants flight once per day. I've found it to be pretty useful.

[Ernir]

Is there a reason Celestial armor is left off the flight list?

It's not that pricey, provides decent armor for some classes, and grants flight once per day. I've found it to be pretty useful.

It's good armor for high dex types, but it's a really bad flight item. Standard action activation for 1/day Fly at CL 5 just isn't very competitive, even with the cheaper options.

(Also, I kind of forgot it had flight. )