LGBTAitp - Part Fifteen

[Coidzor]

Both replies. She got dumped a few days ago by some boy. Obviously she's a lesbian now.
(I am a lesbian.)

I see no claims of lesbianism in those two replies or the originating post.

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Hmm, that person whose name you didn't censor doesn't appear to know how to be diplomatic on facebook if one is going to actually try to talk to people rather than having shouting matches with silly children.

[CrimsonAngel]

Hmm, that person whose name you didn't censor doesn't appear to know how to be diplomatic on facebook if one is going to actually try to talk to people rather than having shouting matches with silly children.

Oh, you mean me. :B

[Yora]

Are we really gonna to discuss shouting matches on the internet?

Because, it's on the internet...

[Coidzor]

Oh, you mean me. :B

Then, yeah, you kinda walked into that wall there.

[Heliomance]

If you've got the money, I'd recomend laser hair surgery. Fry them right out of you.

Note that it probably has a recovery time. You are sorta getting lasered, after all.

I'm a student. No way do I have that kinda money :P

Also I've heard laser is really painful, and I'm a wuss.

[Mystic Muse]

What kind of money does the laser thing cost?

[Coidzor]

What kind of money does the laser thing cost?

Price ranges I'm finding are that 1. it's highly variable based on who you're seeing and 2. it's mostly within the realm of a few hundred per visit.

The recommendations I'm seeing here are to find out who all offers it in your area, and then call them up to see what their typical price is for the specific job you're wanting & then see what kind of specials/deals they may have available.

How Much Does Laser Hair Removal Cost?

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Prices vary greatly from treatments and clinics that perform these procedures. It’s probably best to acquire quotes from different local clinics in order to compare factors and prices. Most clinics will offer discounts on package deals for laser hair removal cost and bulk treatments, but they will also ask for payment in full before rendering all the treatments. This also assures the provider that you will stay with their services. Since laser operator skill is very important in achieving results, it is recommended to start with one small area and investing in treatment packages only once satisfied. It’s a good idea to compare types of lasers used, treatment prices, technicians’ experiences, and other factors among at least 3-5 clinics in the area.

Below is the typical laser hair removal cost for most common procedures performed in US clinics:

Laser Hair Removal Cost Per Session:

Underarms (both) – $50-150

Regular bikini – $100-200 (definition varies by clinic)

Brazilian bikini – $200-300 (definition varies by clinic)

Half legs (both) – $200-400

Half arms (both) – $200-400

Butt – $150-300

Back – $200-500

Chest – $100-300 (definition varies by clinic)

Abdomen – $100-300 (definition varies by clinic)

Full face – $150-300

Upper lip – $50-150

Chin – $50 – 150

Also I've heard laser is really painful, and I'm a wuss.

I believe this calls for a song.

[Heliomance]

But I don't have anyone to believe in me hard enough that I can believe in them for it.

[Lyesmith]

But I don't have anyone to believe in me hard enough that I can believe in them for it.

Then believe in yourself who believes in you.

[KingOfLaughter]

Just laugh at the pain! Or bring a plush Pinkie Pie that laughs..

[Lix Lorn]

Oh, you mean me. :B

(hugs)
People suck?

But I don't have anyone to believe in me hard enough that I can believe in them for it.

I BELIEVE IN YOU, DATTEBAYO!

Just laugh at the pain! Or bring a plush Pinkie Pie that laughs..

...can you get them? Do they make them? Why do I not have one?

[Coidzor]

(hugs)
People suck?

Well, yes, but it's also kind of a given that when someone's feeling conflicted about something, chastising them for being rude for it is not going to be constructive in the slightest. Especially if one is nominally in some kind of nebulous friend position thing.

...can you get them? Do they make them? Why do I not have one?

Probably, you'd just have to either know the right people or have better googlefu than I to find where they might be procurable from.

[KingOfLaughter]

...can you get them? Do they make them? Why do I not have one?

I might be able to get my mom to sew or knit one up...

[Coidzor]

I might be able to get my mom to sew or knit one up...

Do eeet! Oh. Wait. No, Rainbow Dash first!

[KingOfLaughter]

Do eeet! Oh. Wait. No, Rainbow Dash first!

If anyone is going first it's my favorite, crazy pinkie pie.

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On a side note I have an original Indiana Jones fedora, just wanted to post that...

[Blisstake]

Oh, damn it. Now we've got ponies here, too.

[Danne]

I didn't figure out that the whole pony thing was cool until The Wandering Legion* started talking about it at my local con. Now I feel sad that I've missed it. I should look around for episodes online...


*Who are awesome, btw. Also relevant, in that one of them is a crossdresser/transgender (I dunno 'cuz it would be rude to ask).
Edit: Also, steampunk. Crossdressers and steampunk. Win!

[Skeppio]

Oh, damn it. Now we've got ponies here, too.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

[Mystic Muse]

I think due to My avatar/s, and Lix's avatar, we've had ponies here for a while.

[KingOfLaughter]

My sister definitely just judged me for watching Brokeback Mountain, funny considering she's a closet lesbian. :P

[KenderWizard]

...can you get them? Do they make them? Why do I not have one?

They must make MLP plushies (if they don't, we should get the rights ... we could fund laser hair removal for everyone with that!) so all you'd need to do is also buy a laughing Elmo or something, or go to one of those Bear Factory places (I presume if we have them, most places must have them) and get a laughing box, then unpick a rarely-visible seam, like, ahem, underneath the tail, stick the box in and squish all the stuffing around until the box is in the middle, and carefully hand-stitch it up again. If you don't feel confident enough in your sewing ability to operate on a pony this way, it's very simple surgery. I'd pretty much guarantee you know someone who could. (Start by asking parents, a lot more people could sew in the past. My dad could do this. My partner's mom could probably sew up a new pony from scratch.)

[Skeppio]

Um, could we get back on topic fellas? We already have a couple pony threads.

[LaZodiac]

Yes yes, ponies are cute and have rainbows.

On that note, I've got a question for you guys/gals. What are your thoughts of the LGBTA's presentation in various forms of media. For instance, movies like the Rocky Horror Picture Show, or manga like One Piece (though it is worth noting that the character in that is based on the more Japanes equvilent, Okama, but at this point I'm just filling space)?

[golentan]

I find it sad that very few portrayals have gay characters who aren't a commentary on being gay. To expand: a gay character has that more often than not as their defining role in a story or piece of their personality even in works which aren't exploring sexuality, rather than say being a footnote the way that someone's skin color is in works not exploring race. On the other hand, I like that being gay is increasingly shown in a relatively positive light. Widening our gaze, I find it lamentable that being Bi is rare and usually associated with negative personality traits (TVTropes Depraved Bisexual and Anything that Moves, for example) with some exceptions where I approve wholeheartedly of the antics (the god of sex: Captain Jack Harkness, for example). This is still better off than Trans people, who mostly are there as the butt of some joke.

In short: seeing progress, but it's way behind where it should be on almost all fronts IMO.

[LaZodiac]

I find it sad that very few portrayals have gay characters who aren't a commentary on being gay. To expand: a gay character has that more often than not as their defining role in a story or piece of their personality even in works which aren't exploring sexuality, rather than say being a footnote the way that someone's skin color is in works not exploring race. On the other hand, I like that being gay is increasingly shown in a relatively positive light. Widening our gaze, I find it lamentable that being Bi is rare and usually associated with negative personality traits (TVTropes Depraved Bisexual and Anything that Moves, for example) with some exceptions where I approve wholeheartedly of the antics (the god of sex: Captain Jack Harkness, for example). This is still better off than Trans people, who mostly are there as the butt of some joke.

In short: seeing progress, but it's way behind where it should be on almost all fronts IMO.

Well, if it's any consolation, I believe One Piece has gone forward abit with trans.

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A character has the ability to turn people into oppisite genders, but only does it on people who would feel better that way. She's created an entire kingdom based around this and is considered one of the niciest, most badass characters ever

[Skeppio]

Yeah, I've generally noticed that depicitions of LGBT characters in fiction are making a bit of progress, but they're still a ways off. Not helped by the prevalence of such characters shown as nothing but jokes.

[turkishproverb]

I"m not sure if I'm happy for more characters, or happy for more characters that aren't lisping stereotypes.

[Anethiel]

I think the "commentary effect" is inevitable, because queerness has not become integrated in the mainstream culture yet, and thus the viewers/readers are going to draw their general characterization of "queer people" from every tidbit they are exposed to.
As a writer, I follow the classic rule of "if it would be ok with a man and a woman, all other factors unchanged, it's ok". (Then again, my mild asexuality/social anxiety/contact phobia tends to make my characters very, very chaste, so yeah.)

Besides, I was thinking: this happens with heterosexual characters too! For example, take Romeo and Juliet: it's universally considered a commentary on the lines of "love is foolish", but there are several non-foolish (and if I recall correctly, quite cynical) love relationships beside the main one; only Romeo and Juliet are fools.
(I'm sorry, I know the example doesn't fit very well the original point, but I'm sleepy and thinking slow. Maybe I'll follow up with better examples later.)

[Serpentine]

Tamora Pierce covers it reasonably well <.<

[Gardener]

Besides, I was thinking: this happens with heterosexual characters too! For example, take Romeo and Juliet: it's universally considered a commentary on the lines of "love is foolish", but there are several non-foolish (and if I recall correctly, quite cynical) love relationships beside the main one; only Romeo and Juliet are fools.
(I'm sorry, I know the example doesn't fit very well the original point, but I'm sleepy and thinking slow. Maybe I'll follow up with better examples later.)

I always took that as "lovers have poor judgement". It's not that being in love is a bad thing, but if Romeo had just listened to Mercutio a couple of times instead of wallowing in self-pity, it all would have worked out - if not okay, then not nearly as tragically.

And it is an awkward issue. Queer characters should probably be flawed on some level, because most characters are flawed, but they shouldn't be flawed because of their queerness. I guess the general guideline of "there's something I can say about this character that isn't about their sexuality/gender expression" is a good start - because really, if the only thing you could say about a character is some variation on "they're a white heterosexual cis male" then they're not a very interesting character, and the same goes if they're any combination of gay, trans, female, non-caucasian, or whatever else. It's only a start, of course. From there, you're getting into "dealing with social justice problems" territory, which is also important, but much more complicated and doesn't really fit into one-sentence guidelines beyond "don't be an entitled jerk", which isn't really informative.