My Little Pony: Return of Nightmare Moon.

[Bobby Archer]

Also not immediately important, but just want to point this out. The fool (Pinkie Pie) is told she is Pinkie Pie in this game. Which, more importantly means that Twilight sparkle knows she is Twilight, and knows her results are good. So if you get an innocent as Twilight, you can freely PM knowing you arn't going to reveal yourselves to a Scum. (Unless you get pinkie Pie, when, obviously, you shouldn't PM them)

Good call, I hadn't noticed that. Twilight should be talking to any town pony they find.

As for a vote, I'll put my hoof to Istari.

[erikun]

Now, granted, we could just not lynch, but that strikes me as a terrible idea as well.

Actually, I don't think we cannot lynch: No 25% majority rule. That said, I agree with most of the rest of your post. We need to lynch or we won't get any of the badguys, as they can pick off all the villagers faster than we could scry them individually. Plus, they can easily vote to lynch and night kill for twice the effectiveness, to say nothing about what would happen if Twilight gets lynched/killed in the progress.

So if you get an innocent as Twilight, you can freely PM knowing you arn't going to reveal yourselves to a Scum.

This might be in the best interest of Twilight, but not so much the person being PM'd. I know that if someone PM'd me stating they were Twilight, I'd be very suspect at them possibly being Trixie.

[Gray Mage]

Twillight should remember that the alpha is scried as Pinkie Pie though.

[Ramsus]

This might be in the best interest of Twilight, but not so much the person being PM'd. I know that if someone PM'd me stating they were Twilight, I'd be very suspect at them possibly being Trixie.

It doesn't matter when you're contacted. That's always an issue. Either way, if you're contacted by a seer claimant who knows your role, it's always safest (for you and for town) to play along. They already know your role and you could be the only person in a position to out them if they turn out to be a wolf. Town always has to rely on trust to win. I've seen games where town has lost pretty much solely because of a complete lack of trust all around crippling networking.

[Istari]

"Ahh, yes attention, I've gotten quite a lot of it over the years, not the good kind either. But us Doctors are important members of society, you can't just get rid of people like me when things go south."

"Hmm, my argument does not appear to be working."
"This isn't the Doctor you're looking for."

Helgraf

[Khal]

We now have a very weak defense from Helgraf, and no defense from Istari. While there's no real reason for either, any wolf would have thrown up a defense at this point, as it doesn't even have to be good to survive, just better than Helgraf's.

Helgraf.

[Clockworkchaos]

It doesn't matter when you're contacted. That's always an issue. Either way, if you're contacted by a seer claimant who knows your role, it's always safest (for you and for town) to play along. They already know your role and you could be the only person in a position to out them if they turn out to be a wolf. Town always has to rely on trust to win. I've seen games where town has lost pretty much solely because of a complete lack of trust all around crippling networking.

Not in this game.

This is critical. Read the original PM's. Trixie can only find Twilight Sparkle. If you get scried by a seer, regardless of your role, you need to ask them to clarify your role. Twilight will automatically know it, Trixie won't. Now naturally Trixie is going to say "Town pony." Because she's got about a 1/6th of being right. But, an this is important, if you are a power role, and someone contacts you claiming they know you are innocent, if they don't say your role, they are guilty. Though not necessarily Trixie, since her info doesn't reveal anything extra (since all scum know who is innocent). Keep in mind that you can still be playing a dangerous game, as the moment you vote for them publicly they will know you know they are guilty. Weigh carefully your own survival against publicly outing getting them.

Obvious exception is Rainbow Dash, since your power is one use, and can stop them for a night, publicly declare yourself and accuse them, you can prove your roll by doing a rainboom that night and get full use of your roll and a caught scum.

Keep in mind, even if you are not a power role is it vital you ask for a clarification of what role you are if the original pm does not provide it. This way the scum player will not know who is really a town pony and who is not.

[Istari]

We now have a very weak defense from Helgraf, and no defense from Istari. While there's no real reason for either, any wolf would have thrown up a defense at this point, as it doesn't even have to be good to survive, just better than Helgraf's.

Helgraf.

Yeah, the only thing I really thought I could say was 'I'm innocent don't shoot'. But I figured that wouldn't really help any.

[erikun]

It doesn't matter when you're contacted. That's always an issue. Either way, if you're contacted by a seer claimant who knows your role, it's always safest (for you and for town) to play along. They already know your role and you could be the only person in a position to out them if they turn out to be a wolf. Town always has to rely on trust to win. I've seen games where town has lost pretty much solely because of a complete lack of trust all around crippling networking.

Aha. I haven't played one of these before, so I'm not sure how well they work. I'd still be hesitant to provide information for a scrier, as turning over an important town role to the wolves would be quite a problem.

This is critical. Read the original PM's. Trixie can only find Twilight Sparkle.

Does she? I read "you are only concerned with finding Twilight Sparkle" with the goals of the role, not the limitations of it. I'd assumed that Trixie could scry anyone, but she wants to specifically find Twilight.

Hmm. Could Lex/Trixie (the Narrator, not the role ) clarify this for us?

[Clockworkchaos]

Does she? I read "you are only concerned with finding Twilight Sparkle" with the goals of the role, not the limitations of it. I'd assumed that Trixie could scry anyone, but she wants to specifically find Twilight.

Could be, but that goal doesn't make since, since part of being scum is having a single unified goal.... unless it isn't?

Hmm. Could Lex/Trixie (the Narrator, not the role ) clarify this for us?

But if the role want to come out and clarify, that would be great too.

[Zjoot]

Here's the narrator's confirmation. Someone had the same question at the beginning of sign ups.

Twilight Sparkle or Not Twilight Sparkle.

[tyckspoon]

Tyckspoon for me. This being the one game where I have a chance to point at him!

(aww, I love you too Reinholdt.)

[will RP later. Probably. For the record, pony-me thinks its flipping weird that y'all are still having parties under a permanent night sky and with bear-tracks the size of three ponies through the middle of the town.)

[Alarra]

Snapshot looks to the side, shifting his wing for a moment.

"I'm fine. Just a coupla bruises. Uh, thanks for the use of your bushes, I guess. Don't want to make you, y'know, uncomfortable."

"Oh...no....you aren't making me uncomfortable." Musings shifts slightly, looking quite the opposite. Her tail sticks out from beneath the small bush and she realizes how very little space there actually is in a bush. "I....um....I'll leave you to your spying," she mutters hurriedly as she backs quickly out of the leaves.

Back on the lawn, she looks furtively both directions, noting a large gathering of ponies apparently having a party down the street. A party? How can they party when there was evil running rampant through the streets? She huddled back beneath her original bush.

[Lex-Kat]

So if you get an innocent as Twilight, you can freely PM knowing you arn't going to reveal yourselves to a Scum. (Unless you get pinkie Pie, when, obviously, you shouldn't PM them)

Scum.

Can we pleeease refrain from using this term to refer to the villains?

I find it really.... not appropriate. In your own games, do as you please, but it detracts from my enjoyment.

And look!! The Grimmace has already answered the Trixie scry question. Good job.

And here's a question someone sent me by PM:

If Pinkie Pie scrys a person two nights in a row, will her scry's be 'rerolled'? IE: could she get a different result?

Yes, Pinkie Pie can get a different scry each and everytime she scries someone.

[Atreyu the Masked LLama]

(I'll point at Alarra because Eldritch Knight isn't here to do it.)

[erikun]

Here's the narrator's confirmation. Someone had the same question at the beginning of sign ups.

And look!! The Grimmace has already answered the Trixie scry question. Good job.

Sorry about that. I guess I should have spent more time looking for the answer.

[Lex-Kat]

No problem. Don't be afraid to ask questions, okay? I wasn't trying to poke fun at you. Just being silly.

[Ramsus]

Oh in that case....is this also a question I shouldn't be afraid to ask?

[Internet Flea]

Oh in that case....is this also a question I shouldn't be afraid to ask?

((I've got this one. Ahem...

No.))

[Lex-Kat]

Oh in that case....is this also a question I shouldn't be afraid to ask?

((I've got this one. Ahem...

No.))

The answer is yes. Be afraid. Be very very afraid.

[Helgraf]

We now have a very weak defense from Helgraf, and no defense from Istari. While there's no real reason for either, any wolf would have thrown up a defense at this point, as it doesn't even have to be good to survive, just better than Helgraf's.

Helgraf.

Oh please. You've already decided, you're just trying to convince other people through very weak logic that they should agree with you.

But when I die, hopefully it'll teach certain people a lesson about the usefulness of "defensiveness as a likelyhood of wolfishness".

[Eternis]

Dorian smiles.
"This is the most unhappy group of ponies I've ever come across. I mean, we're ponies! We're meant to be frolicking and having a ball of a time, eating grass and prancing! But we're quietly discussing who we should lock away!
Dorian pulls a saxophone out of nowhere with hands he doesn't have.
"Let's set up a party or something! Oh, and has anyone seen my little Sparkie-Pie? I can't seem to find him.
Have you taken him, Helgraf?"

[bladescape]

But when I die, hopefully it'll teach certain people a lesson about the usefulness of "defensiveness as a likelyhood of wolfishness".

Not what I was using. I said in my last post that this early there wasn't much reason to lynch anyone. However, at this point I feel that, depending on whether you're town pony or villian, you're lynch will help me get my spreadsheets onto something useful. Someone has to get lynched, after all.

Defensive = wolf never works, as I can attest. People find me just as defensive whether I'm town or wolf. In fact... if anything. I'm more defensive when town.

[banjo1985]

((Istari to keep the wagons close, and I don't like lynching Helgraf without a good reason. And no, being defensive when faced with a seemingly baseless bandwagon does not count as a good reason. ))

Sparklehorse canters out into the middle of Ponyville, looking sheepish. All the arrogance and bluster of yesterday is gone, replaced by a reddened face and downcast eyes. Even his delightful pink mane doesn't seem to sparkle quite so much.

I-I've got a confession to make guys. It appears I'm am in fact not a pony...I'm a...a....a....horse!

Sparklehorse collapses in a fit of big sparkly tears at the revelation. The fact that his name pretty much signposted this ever since he came to Ponyville never crosses his mind. Also being about three hands taller than averyone else was not a giveaway. No, not at all!

[Al'izh'dheg]

Strawberry Kaiju came out of her home, looking out at the partygoers in Ponyville.

Is this really a time to enjoy?
When darkness' agents have deployed?
It rather seems to me,
That we should prepare to flee.

I wish nobody any ill,
but the village has developed a chill.
We should gather and try to solve
This mystery with some resolve.

We should be gathering close.
Our time we should make the most.
Does anybody have a plan,
To push out this dark clan?


(( I agree it is too early to have any real reason for lynchings yet, so BunnyEarz for pointing at me the previous day. :)

[Clockworkchaos]

[COLOR="DarkOrchid"]Can we pleeease refrain from using this term to refer to the villains?

I find it really.... not appropriate. In your own games, do as you please, but it detracts from my enjoyment.

I'm really sorry, I was not aware that was a problem. It will not happen again.

C
And here's a question someone sent me by PM:



Yes, Pinkie Pie can get a different scry each and everytime she scries someone.

This brings up a second question, when Pinkie gets a scry 'wrong' can she get results from the same 'team'.

IE: If she scrys, say, Blueblood, can she get "Snails" as a result? Or is she guaranteed to get a town pony result?

[Clockworkchaos]

Oh please. You've already decided, you're just trying to convince other people through very weak logic that they should agree with you.

But when I die, hopefully it'll teach certain people a lesson about the usefulness of "defensiveness as a likelyhood of wolfishness".

We now have a very weak defense from Helgraf, and no defense from Istari. While there's no real reason for either, any wolf would have thrown up a defense at this point, as it doesn't even have to be good to survive, just better than Helgraf's.

Helgraf.

Khal... I have to honestly here. I agree that I really do find Helgraf defense suspicious. But, but, letting other players go without any defense strikes me as a rather..... worrysome precident. It means that in many situations we only get one piece of information, not two, as the second player can remain quiet.

Next, Helgraf, yes, you got random bandwagoned, it sucks. But here's the issue,lynching especially with the no 25% rule, has to happen. Sucks that it was you early one, but it does happen. The problem, the problem at least for me is that your defense has been unproductive. You haven't really done anything to help town, or pointed to someone we should be more suspicious of.

[erikun]

I-I've got a confession to make guys. It appears I'm am in fact not a pony...I'm a...a....a....horse!

That's okay; I think we have some lemon drops for that.

[Internet Flea]

Khal... I have to honestly here. I agree that I really do find Helgraf defense suspicious. But, but, letting other players go without any defense strikes me as a rather..... worrysome precident. It means that in many situations we only get one piece of information, not two, as the second player can remain quiet.

There's no information to get unless they're a power role, which we really don't want the wolves finding out. Unless we're actually lynching them, they should stay quiet.

[Grif]

Strawberry Kaiju came out of her home, looking out at the partygoers in Ponyville.

Is this really a time to enjoy?
When darkness' agents have deployed?
It rather seems to me,
That we should prepare to flee.

I wish nobody any ill,
but the village has developed a chill.
We should gather and try to solve
This mystery with some resolve.

We should be gathering close.
Our time we should make the most.
Does anybody have a plan,
To push out this dark clan?


(( I agree it is too early to have any real reason for lynchings yet, so BunnyEarz for pointing at me the previous day. :)

Crimson Thorn stared at the singing pony, shaking his head silently. "Really do we need a song now? We need action!" he barked to the rest. "Helgraf here seems to be reacting all out of sorts to a mere accusation. I say we ditch the formalities and burn him right here, right now."