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2011-09-20, 12:23 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #806 - The Discussion Thread
Ah, kids today. I read LOTR before I knew the internet consisted of anything but AOL.
SpoilerFair enough, I suppose. I thought it still worked as a natural outgrowth of what had gone before- Gollum's primary skill set seems to be in climbing sheer walls, and his slip shows how his desire for the ring robs him of something that had been second nature to him all this time.
At the same time, Frodo is not as corrupted as Gollum was- rather than killing anyone who tries to take the ring, he lets Gollum live despite it being against his own best interests. This leads to him surviving the episode, ironically because Gollum tries to turn on him in the end. The Mount Doom chapter is a lot more about the self-destructive nature of corruption and the possibility of redemption than any arbitrary plot-wrapping-up would be.
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2011-09-20, 12:43 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #806 - The Discussion Thread
And if you really want an in-universe explanation as well, Zz'dtri has been known to use house-ruled spells.
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2011-09-20, 12:45 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #806 - The Discussion Thread
again with the wrong spells lol. Thor needs better assistants.
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2011-09-20, 01:01 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #806 - The Discussion Thread
What with all the negative levels being passed around, I'm starting to think the Giant wants to tell a lower level story. We currently have the Order pegged at around 11-12th, right?
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2011-09-20, 01:05 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #806 - The Discussion Thread
Waltz on over to the Geekery thread. They're estimated to be somewhere in the mid-teens.
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2011-09-20, 01:53 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #806 - The Discussion Thread
Care to elaborate, please?
If you're talking 'bout the angels, I agree. But we all know that often Thor don't pay too much attention to things around Him...Last edited by Killer Angel; 2011-09-20 at 01:53 AM.
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2011-09-20, 02:04 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #806 - The Discussion Thread
Does anyone else find it odd that Durkon actually pronounced all 3 words of the spell correctly (or at least they're transcribed for us without an accent)? I get the fact that he has a heavy Scottish/Dwarvish accent, but as Belkar said long ago
"He can pronounce 'stratosphere', but not 'the'?"
As for the negative levels, I think it's mostly that they happen to be one of the best ways to tackle a high level caster since you simultaneously deal damage and remove their strongest spells. Plus, there are relatively few ways to block negative energy, since turning into an undead doesn't really count and many others such as spell turning are short duration or of limited effect.
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2011-09-20, 02:05 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #806 - The Discussion Thread
HAH! I read this one before making coffee, so the keyboard is safe.
Cleric Feather Fall, genius!
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2011-09-20, 02:07 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #806 - The Discussion Thread
I'm not sure who you are calling a "kid", but it ain't the person who can trace his online usage to GEnie and FidoNet.
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Your point is taken as well, but, remember, I was mostly kidding with my comments. Perhaps alluding to the comments that have been made surrounding the <SPOILERS DELETED> might be an even better way of putting it.Last edited by Porthos; 2011-09-20 at 02:09 AM.
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2011-09-20, 02:08 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #806 - The Discussion Thread
Given that Restoration is a spell easily within reach of even a level-drained Durkon, anything that happens here is likely to be temporary--unless Durkon himself is killed here, which is within the bounds of possibility (he's predicted to arrive back at his homeland posthumously, after all).
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2011-09-20, 02:13 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #806 - The Discussion Thread
Geez, Giant got feisty yesterday, I can't recall the last time he made that many posts in a response thread. Guess all those complaints about the Linear Guild v. OotS matches finally got to him.
Great comic!
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2011-09-20, 02:20 AM (ISO 8601)
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Holy Words?
baaaddddd pun.
Good comic, though.
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2011-09-20, 02:22 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #806 - The Discussion Thread
Alright!
: But you can't make an omelette without ruthlessly crushing dozens of eggs beneath your steel boot and then publicly disemboweling the chickens that laid them as a warning to others.
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2011-09-20, 02:29 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #806 - The Discussion Thread
Which is, in my opinion, not the proper way to treat a huge fanbase.
Mr Burlew, lean back and let the fans sort everything out themselves. If you jump in and explain every detail of how you composed the story and that you didn't look up this and that, you're really destroying the belief of several guys (like me), that you're the allknowing D&D+OotS god. If you don't lean back, the trolls will complain and nitpick until you revealed all your godly knowledge.
And yes, the update is great. As always.participate in fan translations of OotS to your native language:
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2011-09-20, 02:34 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #806 - The Discussion Thread
yeeeeaaaah! Thor's back again!!!! I missed him so much, hope to see more of him. Durkon should discuss this matter via Commune :)
sounds really like colon tumors.
I vote for "bagel" as holy word! :)
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2011-09-20, 02:43 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #806 - The Discussion Thread
My bet is still the same: Durkon goes to get Malack's help, who does not turn out to have some convoluted reason to not wipe the floor with the linear guild.
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2011-09-20, 03:42 AM (ISO 8601)
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Well, people would be whining about the fact that the Eagles couldn't fly the ringbearers straight to Mount Doom, there would be a long in-depth discussion about the gender of Celeborn and an even longer one about Boromir's alignment and Tolkien would cry himself to sleep every night after reading the Saurman/Wormtongue crack pairing.
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2011-09-20, 04:18 AM (ISO 8601)
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Just checking in to say:
"cleric's feather fall", heh.Awesome fremetar by wxdruid.
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2011-09-20, 04:39 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #806 - The Discussion Thread
again with the wrong spells lol. Thor needs better assistants.""Jeez, this dress! i look like a dominatrix""
(self-loathing): ""Actually , you look like a sorceress or something""
""Hey, no need to get cruel""
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2011-09-20, 04:40 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #806 - The Discussion Thread
I am somewhat baffled at some of the commentary in this thread. A potent do-gooder does not manage to immediately decisively turn the tide and people are whining about deus ex machina. Honestly, were I the whiny sort, I would at most complain about the Giant being allowed to double post, which seems about as petty as any 'the story did not go how I thought! This is wrong!'.
That's a very good point you have there.
If by pain you mean 'mild nuisance unless your characters have atrocious saves', sure.Brewing a new setting (3.5 ed D&D). The setting is complete and ready to play.
Indeed, here is the recruitment thread for the first run.
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2011-09-20, 04:41 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #806 - The Discussion Thread
One of the absolute funniest strips in a long time. Also, I think just about every time Thor shows up he is hilarious. Great strip.
Frodo arrives at the river, which suddenly and unexpectedly attacks the ringwraiths.
The battle at Helm's Deep is going great until Saruman suddenly and inexplicably destroys the wall with magic.
There are countless other examples. These things happen all the time in literature. What you are talking about happening at Mount Doom would of course be ridiculous, because it would be anticlimactic for the end of the trilogy. This isn't the end of the OOTS, however, just mid-battle, and is maintaining the tension and the suspense. The characters will show their inner strength plenty by adapting to these challenges. They haven't failed to have inner strength just because they can't predict everything that will happen. They are finite beings, after all, not gods. That makes them a lot more "human" and interesting then if they just kick straight ass all the time, and to be honest I like them more because of it.Last edited by ThePhantasm; 2011-09-20 at 04:56 AM.
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2011-09-20, 05:11 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #806 - The Discussion Thread
Uhm... I'm guessing that when someone disappoints Thor, goes to hell.
If someone spits in his beer, goes to public relations office.
By the way, relax: the Linear Guild is still in the lower hand. Belkar and the now giant-strenghted cat are still around to help.
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2011-09-20, 05:54 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #806 - The Discussion Thread
I wonder what would happen if Belkar ends up being the one who "saves the day". Given that he is just pretending to be good, would a truly good act end up shifting his alignment? I'm starting to see Belkar act more and more neutral as of late. He seems to be getting more selfless as he does his act, but then later tries to justify it as selfish. I can't prove what I'm saying here, it's just a feeling I'm starting to get.
And let's not get into an argument over it. I know I could be wrong. It's just a thought.
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2011-09-20, 06:06 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #806 - The Discussion Thread
Restoration, Durkon. All clerics need to have Restoration prepared. It will solve your level-drain problem quite nicely.
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2011-09-20, 07:19 AM (ISO 8601)
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Eh, I figure it's kinda like a forgotten bonus: now that we (and be we, I mean the Giant) know the actual casting time that will be the casting time from now on.
If a tree falls in the forest and the PCs aren't around to hear it... what do I roll to see how loud it is?
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2011-09-20, 07:32 AM (ISO 8601)
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: But you can't make an omelette without ruthlessly crushing dozens of eggs beneath your steel boot and then publicly disemboweling the chickens that laid them as a warning to others.
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2011-09-20, 07:51 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #806 - The Discussion Thread
Now that the Giant knows MDW is an actual spell, can we as-retcon-sume that it fizzled because it was too high of a level?
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2011-09-20, 07:54 AM (ISO 8601)
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Loved the "Clerical Feather Fall" spell. It reminds me of the "Clerical Sleep" spell that was regularly invoked in my own game. It required a specific material component - namely a mace to the back of the head.
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2011-09-20, 07:57 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #806 - The Discussion Thread
Poor Durkon, a loyal customer of a lousy service provider.
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2011-09-20, 08:02 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #806 - The Discussion Thread
Nah.
Don't think it matters."And yet, will we ever come to an end of discussion and talk if we think we must always reply to replies? For replies come from those who either cannot understand what is said to them, or are so stubborn and contentious that they refuse to give in even if they do understand." - St. Augustine
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