Skyrim IV: Oblivion

[druid91]

For someone that is absolutely not a thief, the only thing in there is one of the best bows, one of the best swords, and above all the access to Fences.

Edit: So much for killing Big P... I finished the main quest yesterday without doing it, so... No.

Note: depending on when you get them determines if they are the best in the game. At least that's my guess.

Because yeah... I went through all that trouble, and now I use an elven bow because it's stronger.

I hate the leveled item system.

[Avilan the Grey]

I am now testing Gromit's files on the Nexus: the smithing overhaul and the fletching (make your own arrows) mod.

[Flickerdart]

For someone that is absolutely not a thief, the only thing in there is one of the best bows, one of the best swords, and above all the access to Fences.

Edit: So much for killing Big P... I finished the main quest yesterday without doing it, so... No.

So...how are you roped into joining them, then? All you need to do to find Esbern is make it into the Ratway Warrens, which doesn't require membership, or even helping the Thieves Guild ever. It is also possible to enter the College of Winterhold through the Midden, or enter through the front door and then not sit through the lesson on wards.

[AsteriskAmp]

So...how are you roped into joining them, then? All you need to do to find Esbern is make it into the Ratway Warrens, which doesn't require membership, or even helping the Thieves Guild ever. It is also possible to enter the College of Winterhold through the Midden, or enter through the front door and then not sit through the lesson on wards.

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Brynjolf offers you a job upon entering Riften, do it, or let it fail and he asks you to go with him to the Flaggon.

[druid91]

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Brynjolf offers you a job upon entering Riften, do it, or let it fail and he asks you to go with him to the Flaggon.

Alternatively you can exit out of his conversation.

At which point he just wanders around the market until you talk to him again.

[AsteriskAmp]

Alternatively you can exit out of his conversation.

At which point he just wanders around the market until you talk to him again.

You still have it as a quest, with gigantic pointing arrow and everything.
Though that's how you get roped, which was what was asked.

[druid91]

You still have it as a quest, with gigantic pointing arrow and everything.
Though that's how you get roped, which was what was asked.

Really? I didn't.

All I did was hit B as soon as he tried talking to me.

[AsteriskAmp]

Really? I didn't.

All I did was hit B as soon as he tried talking to me.

It ends in either miscellaneous if he doesn't tell you his plan or intentions, or in it's own category if you hear them but run away.

Though I always refuse to pay the toll, so it may be because of that.

[t209]

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Do you ever wonder if Dark Brotherhood's destruction under Penitus Ocultus remind you of OOTS Strip 827.
Astrid= Thanh
Even though they're assasins, they're like family and kinda sad to see them died.
Except I destroy them as an orc.

[factotum]

2) CPU. Clock rate is the God of gaming performance. Games are still single-threaded

This is not true these days...there are quite a few multi-threaded games out there. Skyrim is one of them, as it happens!

[Avilan the Grey]

Realistic Running Speed

I looked at this and as long as the bug that makes you run FASTER with your weapon or shield up than not isn't fixed... Nah. Good idea though.

Anyway, question for everyone:

Should we make a separate Skyrim MOD recommendation thread? Here it seems those posts will drown in the sea of interesting questions and banter

Edit: Since I am done with the main quest, I will start over "soon".

I want to start a Chaotic Mage. Who is interested in a let's play (screenshot version)?

I will NOT be "totally evil" (meaning no Dark Brotherhood).

I will be female

I will be a non-beast race

Robes or armor?

Combine with Warrior or Thief?

[Thanatos 51-50]

I hate the leveled item system.

It is, however, absolutey vital in a game where the enemies level-scale, at least from a game design standpoint.
In My Opinion, though, there needs to be a Knights of the Nine-style way to make the gear re-level up to you.

[Avilan the Grey]

It is, however, absolutey vital in a game where the enemies level-scale, at least from a game design standpoint.
In My Opinion, though, there needs to be a Knights of the Nine-style way to make the gear re-level up to you.

The Dragon Age way works too.

[druid91]

It is, however, absolutey vital in a game where the enemies level-scale, at least from a game design standpoint.
In My Opinion, though, there needs to be a Knights of the Nine-style way to make the gear re-level up to you.

Not really. In oblivion I grabbed the umbra at level 3.

That sword still rocked all the way up to level 15.

I never did grow out of it.

That's how I think it should work. Your damage with a weapon should be determined not by when you found it, but your skill with that weapons weapon type.

Just because the enemies scale does not mean the loot needs to scale. You just need to.

As it is this system punishes you for going after things that will benefit you as soon as possible.

The game shouldn't punish you for trying to stay in character.

[Triaxx]

It does scale pretty well, and for most things it works out because the numbers aren't a point to point increase.

Really helps me not feel too bad. Plus the wide variety of special attacks that just seem eminently more useful to me are much easier to use.

[Avilan the Grey]

It does scale pretty well, and for most things it works out because the numbers aren't a point to point increase.

Really helps me not feel too bad. Plus the wide variety of special attacks that just seem eminently more useful to me are much easier to use.

The scaling in Skyrim is SO much better, but weird things is happening at the end.

Case in point: Urzul can now, with jewelry and skill, one-shot mammoths with her bow from Sneakmode. But there are bandits out there that only takes 80% damage from the same shot...

Slightly immersion-breaking.

[druid91]

The scaling in Skyrim is SO much better, but weird things is happening at the end.

Case in point: Urzul can now, with jewelry and skill, one-shot mammoths with her bow from Sneakmode. But there are bandits out there that only takes 80% damage from the same shot...

Slightly immersion-breaking.

Similar problem.

Imperial soldiers die nigh instantly... But aside from being a pain in my rear, I watched the mercenaries at goldenglow fight off a dragon.

Before I stole the kill.

[factotum]

Case in point: Urzul can now, with jewelry and skill, one-shot mammoths with her bow from Sneakmode. But there are bandits out there that only takes 80% damage from the same shot...

Slightly immersion-breaking.

In most cases, you're playing a character who can stand in front of a dragon and beat it to death without coming close to death...I don't think relative power levels is something you should obsess about.

[Triaxx]

Most mammoth's don't have armor, nor do they have shields. Of course, this might be one of those bandits wearing just a pair of fur pants. In which case they're actually dragons in disguise.

[druid91]

Most mammoth's don't have armor, nor do they have shields. Of course, this might be one of those bandits wearing just a pair of fur pants. In which case they're actually dragons in disguise.

They are other dragonborn.

What you thought yours was the only family to marry into the ruling class way back when?

Yeah right. :P

[Qwertystop]

Most mammoth's don't have armor, nor do they have shields. Of course, this might be one of those bandits wearing just a pair of fur pants. In which case they're actually dragons in disguise.

I'm not sure if you're joking or not.

[Gullintanni]

Similar problem.

Imperial soldiers die nigh instantly... But aside from being a pain in my rear, I watched the mercenaries at goldenglow fight off a dragon.

Before I stole the kill.

If you're playing on the PC, try the Deadly Dragons mod. Skews the balance of power back in the dragons direction.

Be warned, barring maxed out resists, this mod will have you clinging to cover for dear life. Survival requires flanking, powers, judicious shield bashing, hit-and-run tactics etc... It's a lot easier with Dragonrend, but still, dragons are no walk in the park.

[druid91]

If you're playing on the PC, try the Deadly Dragons mod. Skews the balance of power back in the dragon's direction.

Xbox.

I generally don't go in for modding big ticket games.

I think the only time I have, is with Kotor II. And that was just the restored content patch.


... And the darth revan outfit. But I wanted that dang hood/mask combo the whole game of kotor I and it never gave it to me...

[ObadiahtheSlim]

If you're playing on the PC, try the Deadly Dragons mod. Skews the balance of power back in the dragons direction.

Be warned, barring maxed out resists, this mod will have you clinging to cover for dear life. Survival requires flanking, powers, judicious shield bashing, hit-and-run tactics etc... It's a lot easier with Dragonrend, but still, dragons are no walk in the park.

Dual cast destruction FTW! You just stun the crap out of the dragon.

[Suedars]

Dual cast destruction FTW! You just stun the crap out of the dragon.

The mod's higher difficulties make dragons resistant or even immune to Stagger. Plus their increased hp and resists make the double casts really strain your mana unless you're abusing Enchanting.

[The_Jackal]

This is not true these days...there are quite a few multi-threaded games out there. Skyrim is one of them, as it happens!

That may be technically true, but Techspot's performance testing supports my conclusions. Whatever multithreaded code they're using, it doesn't have a significant bearing on framerate, which is what you need to run high quality games:

http://www.techspot.com/review/467-s...nce/page7.html

So yes, I was overly simplistic when I said games are single threaded. What is technically more accurate is that the processor-intensive graphics engines are still single threaded (and are likely to stay that way for some time, to prevent irritating race-condition and blocking call issues), so don't pay too much for extra cores. Push up core density, you get negligible gains in performance. Push up clock rate, and you get nearly proportional gains in performance.

[Avilan the Grey]

Okay... New character concept: a non-evil version of Harley Quin, or maybe the Anti-Cicero. A totally nutty, but not really evil, wizard.

[Suedars]

Wouldn't the anti-Cicero just be a sane, average person?

[Avilan the Grey]

Wouldn't the anti-Cicero just be a sane, average person?

Har. Har. Har.

Edit: I cannot decide if I want to go for the Heavy armored Mage or the Robe Mage. Opinions?

[factotum]

That may be technically true, but Techspot's performance testing supports my conclusions. Whatever multithreaded code they're using, it doesn't have a significant bearing on framerate, which is what you need to run high quality games:

http://www.techspot.com/review/467-s...nce/page7.html

You might want to read that article again--it says that Skyrim benefits from at least a dual-core CPU. If you actually had a single-core CPU (I realise that's almost impossible these days, but what the hey) then Skyrim performance would suffer massively because of it. Plus, as game developers get more used to wringing the full performance out of their extra threads, this situation will only improve--the Skyrim engine is largely based on the Oblivion one, which is quite long in the tooth now.