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    Quote Originally Posted by SaintRidley View Post
    Unlikely to happen, given that the bonus strips and commentaries are the primary reason (aside from having a physical book and shoving money Rich's way) to purchase the compilations. Making a book like that would completely undercut the point of the compilations.
    I seriously doubt the same people who would buy a book of bonus are the same people who buy the color books. As others have said it would be a book you had to read at the computer. Especially since there would likely only be 2 such books -- there would be quite some wait between them.

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    I'm going to take a guess that the next mystery prize line will be in the vicinity of $365k; as a kind of half-way house to incentivise hitting $387k. Next update shall tell :-)

    That wiki page is currently missing a currently funding ipod dock project that's at over 700k though, so it's not quite as rosy as Wiki suggests.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArtosSwiftblade View Post
    That wiki page is currently missing a currently funding ipod dock project that's at over 700k though, so it's not quite as rosy as Wiki suggests.
    Indeed, but that still puts us in 9th place overall. Which is a win

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArtosSwiftblade View Post
    That wiki page is currently missing a currently funding ipod dock project that's at over 700k though, so it's not quite as rosy as Wiki suggests.
    I fixed that. My first choice with my Wikipedia hat on would be to remove OOTS, but I can't see that working without the page being protected. As long as a new project does not also break the top 10 while we are running, then everything can be back to how it should be on two weeks Tuesday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaed View Post
    I get this feeling that maybe people are pledging just to inflate the record and are going to withdraw their pledges at the last minute...

    After all, this process seems to be an 'on your honor' donation thing more than anything else...
    Cynical as that is... yeah, I'm of the same opinion. Noticed a few times now the dollar number actually go down. Not sure if it is because it just didn't reload the page properly or they were withdrawn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joxer t' Mighty View Post
    Cynical as that is... yeah, I'm of the same opinion. Noticed a few times now the dollar number actually go down. Not sure if it is because it just didn't reload the page properly or they were withdrawn.

    Well, at least this is validated funds. So the people pledging have the money. I bet some will back out. If they are on a limited pledge, others will swoop in given enough time.

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    what? some gamers might be gaming the system? there's min-maxing going on? perish the thought.
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    Well, I suppose Rich won't start drawing the stories until the drive is done. So if they pledge just to raise the level so they'll get more free stuff, and then withdraw again, they'll sink the level and won't get their free stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaed View Post
    I get this feeling that maybe people are pledging just to inflate the record and are going to withdraw their pledges at the last minute...

    After all, this process seems to be an 'on your honor' donation thing more than anything else...
    Not a chance that a significant number of people back out. Sure, there will be some drop of funds I'm sure (credit/debit cards having lack of funds being the number one reason). But not a significant amount.

    Why? Mostly because people have no reason to **** with Rich's livelyhood. And, really, that is exactly what would happen if people started to play around with this.

    This is REAL LIFE folks, not some video game. And believe it or not, most people aren't going to mess around with someone's livelyhood when they have no reason to do so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Weimann View Post
    Well, I suppose Rich won't start drawing the stories until the drive is done. So if they pledge just to raise the level so they'll get more free stuff, and then withdraw again, they'll sink the level and won't get their free stuff.
    I'm pretty sure Rich could be working on the O'Chul story, at a minimum. I doubt $300,000 worth of pledges will pull out. (And the Julio Scoundrel PDF better be safe or I'll cry.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Porthos View Post
    Not a chance that a significant number of people back out. Sure, there will be some drop of funds I'm sure (credit/debit cards having lack of funds being the number one reason). But not a significant amount.
    I would also expect that between Rich and Kickstarter, there are reviews of pledges to make sure nothing is particularly odd. Like say someone makes a $10,000 pledge but doesn't accept a pledge level. Or even a $1,000 pledge, but selects the $14 two magnet. I'm sure that KS has had to deal with some of this stuff in the almost 3 years it has been running, and ought to be watching for oddities and discrepancies as pledge drives run, or else it's their reputation on the line as well.

    Side note, the drive got a brief mention in another comics blog:

    http://www.comicsbeat.com/2012/02/01...her-webcomics/

    I've had a google search saved on "Order of the Stick" to see if anymore articles are written about it. A nice high profile piece could drive a bunch of more people to check it out. I submitted a link to BoingBoing today about it. BB tends to like Kickstarter projects, and Doctorow is always interested in stories of authors/artists trying stuff like this. There's also a public page to submit tips (I did a private submission). I didn't want to do both though, so if someone else wants to drop it in the public submission pool, might be worth it:

    http://submit.boingboing.net/

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    Now we've reached the 350K mark, the targets for the next 24 hours or so are

    * 364,698 - match the 8th largest KS project
    * 369,569 - match the 7th largest KS project
    * 387,550 - DCF reprint

    Somewhere in there is also the next mystery reward.

    If Rich puts up t-shirts or something else to generate a feeding frenzy, then subsequent targets are.

    * 400,000 Just because it's round
    * 404,250 Seven times original goal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keldorn View Post
    Now we've reached the 350K mark, the targets for the next 24 hours or so are

    * 364,698 - match the 8th largest KS project
    * 369,569 - match the 7th largest KS project
    * 387,550 - DCF reprint

    Somewhere in there is also the next mystery reward.

    If Rich puts up t-shirts or something else to generate a feeding frenzy, then subsequent targets are.

    * 400,000 Just because it's round
    * 404,250 Seven times original goal.
    Maybe we should start planning the 1000% party for when it hits $577,500...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mary View Post
    Well, at least this is validated funds. So the people pledging have the money. I bet some will back out. If they are on a limited pledge, others will swoop in given enough time.
    Nope. They aren't validated to more than 1$.
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    When you make a pledge with Kickstarter, Amazon Payments are the payment process and we contact your credit card's issuing bank to confirm that your credit card is a valid number and hasn't been reported lost or stolen. This is done with a $1.00 authorization. We don't actually proceed with the charge; this is simply one of the security measures we use to protect our customers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CDP View Post
    Maybe we should start planning the 1000% party for when it hits $577,500...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flame of Anor View Post
    Although Durkon may wreck whatever plans ye be...plannin'.
    Oh, pish. I'll just put him in charge of getting the beer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elder Tsofu View Post
    Nope. They aren't validated to more than 1$.
    Ouch... Okay so they only need a valid card with a buck on it. I guess really it just increases the risk. Someone posted that KS waits 14 days before handing over the funds. I bet that is the riskiest period.

    I still think most of the bids are legit...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elder Tsofu View Post
    Nope. They aren't validated to more than 1$.
    Actually they are only validated to 1$ at the time the pledge was announced - as we have heard here in this thread, you can pledge for a project ending in a month with a credit card valid until tomorrow...

    But what are the chances that this project will crash due to failing pledges?

    Oh, and by the way - t-shirts would be nice, but please not this "...and all i got..." stuff - after all we get a lot more...
    How about a t-shirt with Elan's merry "I'm participating!" - or maybe better "I participated!"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unisus View Post
    Actually they are only validated to 1$ at the time the pledge was announced - as we have heard here in this thread, you can pledge for a project ending in a month with a credit card valid until tomorrow...

    But what are the chances that this project will crash due to failing pledges?
    1/20 . . .
    Alot less if you use a fumble confirm model, but you will still miss the target.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unisus View Post
    But what are the chances that this project will crash due to failing pledges?
    Honestly?

    Zero.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unisus View Post
    Actually they are only validated to 1$ at the time the pledge was announced - as we have heard here in this thread, you can pledge for a project ending in a month with a credit card valid until tomorrow...

    But what are the chances that this project will crash due to failing pledges?
    I'd say pretty low.

    I have no doubts that there are 5000+ deadbeats in the world who would happily default on their pledges, but the odds that they all decided to converge on this pledge drive and no legitimate backers showed up are astronomical.

    Edit: Elan "I Participated!" T-shirts? Hmmm.... Maybe something to add to every pledge of $50 or more?
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    I'd glad to see ANY T-shirts or other apparel added.

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    The I've participated idea is great. Or even maybe the last graph? I know on the comment thread the was below. Maybe just strike the 'and' and after?




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    The idea for a shirt that says "I Kickstarted a sexy shoeless god of war and all I got was this lousy T-Shirt" I read in the update comments is incredibly tempting.

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    Looks like we just hit $355k. Great job everyone!
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    Quote Originally Posted by CDP View Post
    Elan "I Participated!" T-shirts? Hmmm.... Maybe something to add to every pledge of $50 or more?
    We do get the magnet, but only people in the know would get that it marks someone as a participant. Also, how do you wear a fridge magnet?

    I'd be willing to pay extra for a t-shirt (or a button) like we are doing for extra books.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamiltonz View Post
    We do get the magnet, but only people in the know would get that it marks someone as a participant. Also, how do you wear a fridge magnet?

    I'd be willing to pay extra for a t-shirt (or a button) like we are doing for extra books.
    Easy, a magnet on the outside and magnet on the inside of your shirt/pocket.
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    No, what you should really do is become a cyborg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamiltonz View Post
    We do get the magnet, but only people in the know would get that it marks someone as a participant. Also, how do you wear a fridge magnet?

    I'd be willing to pay extra for a t-shirt (or a button) like we are doing for extra books.


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    Easy, a magnet on the outside and magnet on the inside of your shirt/pocket.

    Well, that would work, but personally, I would rather have a t-shirt!
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    I don't mean to be miserly on a donation website, but why is the THE WHOLE STORY reward set at $222 when one can theoretically purchase those seven books from Ookoodook for ~$170 once they're back in print? That's a significant difference. Are the Ook prices likely to change? Or does Rich just like alliteration? Is it still alliteration when applied to numbers?

    I understand that it's not likely to change since so many people have already pledged at that level, but I thought I'd ask. If I do someday want to own all the books, does everyone recommend grabbing the pledge reward now even at a premium?

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    Well, I presume that the base Ookoodook price does not include shipping, and this includes US shipping (and part of further distant shipping). Furthermore, you're not simply buying a book, you're helping fun the printing of more books beyond the one you bought, so that other people can buy one later. That being said, if you don't want to pay the extra to help out, just wait until the books are back in print and buy them then (although you won't get all the pdfs, and it looks like Snips and Snails will be pulled once this drive is over, so this may be your last chance to get it).
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