Metal Thread VII: The Mosh Pit Don't Start 'Til We Walk In

[Scarch]

You had to go and pick the album that youtube seems to have decided to mostly purge, didn't you. "Shadows Fed To Tyrants" was okay, but it didn't really grab me, and I can't seem to find any of the other songs off the album.

Blessed Are The Sick and Covenant are both a bit thicker sounding and a bit less full-speed-ahead than Altars. In general, I'd say they're not quite as consistently good but they're solid records overall.

Ever heard of Artillery? They've had a few singers over the years. Flemming Ronsdorf is still probably the definitive voice of the band, but Soren Adamsen was also good, and the new guy that they recently got seems solid as well. Or Testament maybe? I think that Chuck Billy has a cool voice. Then there's Bobby Blitz from Overkill, who won me over after a while, and I like Joey Belladona as well, though I suspect if Anthrax were up your alley you'd have been won over to Thrash before now.

Or, for harsher vocals, I like Kreator, Destruction, and some Thrash revival bands like Havok and Warbringer.

I can relate to not liking the vocals in thrash though, James Hetfield is downright unlistenable, and Tom Araya completely ruins Reign In Blood for me.


There's certainly elitism in this thread, but it originates from several different, and usually contradictory, viewpoints. To really draw the thread's collective ire takes some doing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xejryKmVpZM

Exist is the first track off Sovereign Descent, it is not as consistently blasting as Shadows Fed to Tyrants, and it has slower and more melodic segments, so it might be more up your alley.

Those Morbid Angel tracks were good, I will definitely have to listen to more.

Well, Venom welcomed us to hell. Without them, we would probably still only listen to tales of dragons and magic swords...
(or, more probably, we would have a different reference group for the first wave of Black Metal. )

I actually didn't realise how old Venom was until recently, or how influential they were.



On an entirely different note, I've always wanted to know who the first bands to pig squeal were. Pig Squealing interests me. Well, all forms of screaming do, but Pig Squealing is just something I'd like to learn more about.

[Makensha]

And if we are being elitist, it's generally with an awareness of what we're doing.

The attitude of the Metal Thread has changed quite a bit since I first started lurking/posting. As the make-up of posters changed, the elitism of the thread has changed. I just never thought about that change until now.

Makensha: No, I wasn't being sarcastic. I was just thinking about how intense, aggressive, heavy music makes me happy, but soft music just bores and annoys me. I was referring to all the, "Someone here will like it," comments. That and the lack of typical, "That band sucks" comments. Also, Sympathy are good. Hmm, if you like them aren't there a fair amount of DM bands with a similar vibe?

The with the "this is my smiling face" threw me off. It isn't that I don't like any other DM bands besides Sympathy, I've just never bothered seeking out more DM after I found them. I'm sure I'll music-swing back to that category eventually.

Ever heard of Artillery? They've had a few singers over the years. Flemming Ronsdorf is still probably the definitive voice of the band, but Soren Adamsen was also good, and the new guy that they recently got seems solid as well. Or Testament maybe? I think that Chuck Billy has a cool voice. Then there's Bobby Blitz from Overkill, who won me over after a while, and I like Joey Belladona as well, though I suspect if Anthrax were up your alley you'd have been won over to Thrash before now.

Or, for harsher vocals, I like Kreator, Destruction, and some Thrash revival bands like Havok and Warbringer.

I can relate to not liking the vocals in thrash though, James Hetfield is downright unlistenable, and Tom Araya completely ruins Reign In Blood for me.

I liked Overkill and Havok the most out of those. I thought Testament was ok, and the rest I didn't care for. Thanks for the suggestions.

[grimbold]

SLAAAAAAYEEEEEEEERRRRRR

now that that's out of the way
Chuck Billy has a great voice, his work with other vocalists in the Dublin Death Patrol stuff is simply fantastic!

[Nameless]

SLAAAAAAYEEEEEEEERRRRRR

[godspit]

Every time I wear my Slayer shirt around about one in five people yell "Slayer!" at me. It got to the point where my nickname for a long time was Slayer.

It got annoying fast. Still like them though. I liked thrash for a while back when I was younger but mostly it's just dull now for me, no real movement (same could be said for "Trve Kvlt black metal"). I still listen to some early Sodom though when I want to get in a get s*** done mood.

Testament are a local band for me, so I respect them on that ground.

On the topic of Venom, I still listen to Black Metal now and then. I like the song "USA for Satan" just for the cheese factor.

[grimbold]

i luurve you nameless!

more thrash i like is on the french hardcore scene where a lot of bands have a nice thrash side. One of my favorites is Inside Project (I Have A Dream is a FANTASTIC song live)
in other news
another interview with Paul Masvidal this weekend!

[Scarch]

Inside Project was pretty good.

[Marillion]

An open letter to Dave Lombardo from Lich King

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Mr. Lombardo



What with your contract woes with Slayer, it seems you are now no longer a member. Well, Dave, they say with every door that closes, another opens. A big door with our logo on it has just swung wide.



That's right, you just got called up to the big leagues. We'd like to invite you to drum for Lich King.



We are the world's premier unsigned western Massachusetts thrash metal band, and a position with us carries a great deal of clout and privilege. In addition to the twelve dollars we can give you out of our pay split after EVERY SHOW, we are willing to offer you a signing bonus of ONE HUNDRED DOLLARS and one (1) gift certificate for $20 at Red Robin.



Your duties will include

• Drumming

• Hauling gear

• Driving long hours on tour

• Providing us with a practice space because ours belongs to our current drummer Brian

• Booking tours (also a Brian duty)

• Doing the band accounting (another Brian job)

• Recording and producing our albums (Brian again)

• Telling Brian he's fired



A caveat: we already have a Dave in the band, and to avoid confusion, you will have to pick a different first name. I think Steve Lombardo has a nice ring to it, but the choice is yours so long as it does not clash with any of our names and it passes our approval by a majority vote.



If you accept our terms, there will of course be an audition. We can't just let you in without seeing what you can do. Practice up on any three of our songs. We can send you the mp3s to practice to (we will deduct the 99 cents per song from your future earnings) and can schedule your audition at your convenience.



We await your response.

Cordially

-Tom, Dave, Joe & Rob

LICH KING

OH GOD MY SIDES.

And Lich King are fairly decent, too.

[Scarch]

Wow Marillion, that was hilarious.

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Your duties include... tell Brian he's fired. lol

[Feytalist]

That's kinda awesome. I hope he replies.


A couple days ago I had Malmsteen's concerto for electric guitar playing in the background while doing other stuff, and a friend walked in and asked me why I'm listening to "classy music". Heh.

[Killer Angel]

Come on, Slayer marked with fire the whole thrash scene.
But of course, Decade of aggression is more than 20 yrs old, they should stop to repeat that tour over and over again...

[Scarch]

I never liked Slayer.

[Feytalist]

I see there's a new Stratovarius album out. Anyone had a listen to it yet? I thought Elysium was pretty good. Much better than Polaris, anyway.

[Faulty]

So I have not been listening to much metal lately because the new Justin Timberlake album > Slayer but the new split between Ash Pool and Akitsa and the new Paysage d'Hiver are pretty incredible.

[Nameless]

Come on, Slayer marked with fire the whole thrash scene.

I'd rather scrub my face with a cheese grater then listen to Slayer and 95% of Thrash Metal.

[Comrade]

I'd rather scrub my face with a cheese grater then listen to Slayer and 95% of Thrash Metal.

You know, I generally save the cheese grater for after I listen to Slayer.

[grimbold]

I see there's a new Stratovarius album out. Anyone had a listen to it yet? I thought Elysium was pretty good. Much better than Polaris, anyway.

i did not see there was one! i'll have to check it out on spotify later today :D

[Nameless]

You know, I generally save the cheese grater for after I listen to Slayer.

Doing it beforehand tends to save me from the pain of having to listen to them.

Go home Slayer.
You're drunk.

[immiseo]

Anyone fans of Eluveitie?

Bravo Man



Australia Immigration

[grimbold]

eluveitie are a thread favorite :P

again, new people take note, us metal thread die hards are REALLY into metal, i'm always surprised when something comes up that only one guy knows

[Nameless]

again, new people take note, us metal thread die hards are REALLY into metal, i'm always surprised when something comes up that only one guy knows

On a side note, Lustre are pretty fantastic.

[grimbold]

On a side note, Lustre are pretty fantastic.

they are indeed,
nameless you always have good finds :D

[Nameless]

they are indeed,
nameless you always have good finds :D

It's because my taste in music is the epitome of excellence, unlike those silly Slayer fans.

[Scarch]

It's because my taste in music is the epitome of excellence, unlike those silly Slayer fans.

In that case I think you should give us a comprehensive list of every band that you listen to so that we all may benefit.

[Nameless]

In that case I think you should give us a comprehensive list of every band that you listen to so that we all may benefit.

Just Metal? Or every band/artist/composer ever? Because I could be here a while...

[Scarch]

Just Metal? Or every band/artist/composer ever? Because I could be here a while...

Well, if you actually go through with it (and I hope you do ) then you should take it in stages. Start with your top tier of Metal bands and work your way down to probably about your third tier. After that you could do your top tier or two of music outside of Metal. The rest after that is fine in whatever order you like. 500 musicians/bands/artists/composers is a good final number, because most people will probably not even listen to all 500 even if they are all godly, but you can do as many as you want/can. I think around 50-100 bands to start with is good.

[godspit]

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Go home Slayer.
You're drunk.

Thrash has been a drunk art form since it's conception.

I'm with Nameless on the band lists. Most of us could probably write book series on why we like the bands that we do, followed by several novellas on why one band is better than the other.

[Nameless]

Well, if you actually go through with it (and I hope you do ) then you should take it in stages. Start with your top tier of Metal bands and work your way down to probably about your third tier. After that you could do your top tier or two of music outside of Metal. The rest after that is fine in whatever order you like. 500 musicians/bands/artists/composers is a good final number, because most people will probably not even listen to all 500 even if they are all godly, but you can do as many as you want/can. I think around 50-100 bands to start with is good.

So many crossover genres... so many...

Okay, I'll try and give this some kind of structure. This is in a very vague genre order, as opposed to favorite to least favorite. There's no way I could place them in that order.

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Black Sabbath
Led Zeppelin
UFO
Rainbow
AC/DC
Airborne
Whitesnake
Dio
Iron Maiden
Saxon
Hawkwind
Lordi
Twisted Sister
Motely Crue
Lazuras AD
Trivium
ManOWaR
Hammerfall
Dragonforce
Powerwolf
Kamelot
Dark Moor
Nightwish
Elvenking
Dream Theatre
Orphaned Land
Skyclad
Turisas
Finntroll
Eluveitie
Ensiferum
Black Messiah
Wolfchant
Norther
Children of Bodom
Arch Enemy
Insomnium
Draconian
Pallbearer
Dominia
Cradle of Filth
Dimmu Borgir
Chthonic
Mirzadeh
Followbane
Satyiricon
Sienbenburgen
Dead Silent Slumber
Bishop of Hexen
Winterhorde
Eastern Front
Wodensthrone
Summoning
Gallowbraid
Austere
Woods of Desolation
Fen
Thy Light
Lustre
Heretoir
Alcest
Amesoeurs
Les Discrets
Agalloch
Onryo
Shyy
Liam
Gray Waters
Psyclon Nine
Columbine
Neurotech
Rammstien
In Extremo
ASP
Hanzel und Gretyl
Deathstars
T3R
Akado
Cinema Bizzare
Moi Dix Mois
Versailles
Gackt
Slipknot
Dope Stars inc.
Apotygma Berzerk
Lacrimas Profundere
Birthday Massacre
Down Below
Th 69 Eyes
OOMPH!
Pretentious, Moi?
London After Midnight
Sisters of Mercy
Bat Nouveau
The Cure
Joy Division
HIM
Sopor Aeternus
Voltair
Marilyn Manson
Abney Park
Steam Powered Giraffe
The Clockwork Quartet
The Cog is Dead
Murderdolls
Psyborg Corp.
Angelspit
Yade
Arise X
Grendel
Asphyxia
Aesthetic Perfection
Nachtmahr
Distatix
C-Lekktor
T3rror 3rror
WromZ
Autoxie
Terrorfakt
X-RX
DJ Sisan
Blutengel
Assemblage 23
VNV Nation
Solar Fake
mind.in.a.box
Covenant
Code 64
Icon of Coil
And One
Ashbury Heights
Dreams Divide
Mesh
Kraftwerk
Depeche Mode
Tears for Fears
Daft Punk
She
Opiuo
Tristam
Glaze/Woodentoaster
Stormwolf
The Living Tombstone
DB Pony
Ken Ashcorp
Pink Floyd
Broken Iris
R.E.M
Muse
The Eagles
Queen
The Beatles
Clint Mansell
Antonio Vivaldi
Bach
Beethoven

Of course, there's a whole load more, but you get the idea.

Thrash has been a drunk art form since it's conception.

I'm with Nameless on the band lists. Most of us could probably write book series on why we like the bands that we do, followed by several novellas on why one band is better than the other.

It started because it music scene wasn't trve enough.

That right there was it's first mistake.

[Scarch]

Hmmm... okay well now I'm not sure why you were bashing Slayer...

[Nameless]

Hmmm... okay well now I'm not sure why you were bashing Slayer...

Because they're fun to bash.