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Thread: Wereoctopus
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2012-09-17, 07:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Wereoctopus
Serious question: Do you get the arms in hybrid form? Or the grapple bonus in normal form? I'm just wondering if a wereoctupus would be a boon to a grappler build.
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2012-09-17, 08:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-09-17, 08:53 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Wereoctopus
Does that change its subtype? Also, it would restrict us to contracted lycanthropes, but that's doable.
Serious question: Do you get the arms in hybrid form? Or the grapple bonus in normal form? I'm just wondering if a wereoctupus would be a boon to a grappler build.
Same as the base creature or base animal, depending on which form the lycanthrope is using. A lycanthrope in hybrid form gains two claw attacks and a bite attack as natural weapons.
Here's the problem:
An opponent can attack a giant octopus’s tentacles with a sunder attempt as if they were weapons. A giant octopus’s tentacles have 10 hit points each. If a giant octopus is currently grappling a target with the tentacle that is being attacked, it usually uses another limb to make its attack of opportunity against the opponent making the sunder attempt. Severing one of a giant octopus’s tentacles deals 5 points of damage to the creature. A giant octopus usually withdraws from combat if it loses four tentacles. The creature regrows severed limbs in 1d10+10 days.
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A lycanthrope’s hybrid form does not gain any special attacks of the base animal.
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2012-09-17, 09:00 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Wereoctopus
Yes, actually. If you are not a humanoid, it changes your type to humanoid with the human subtype and gives you 4 skill points. You also retain any other subtypes you had and all of the traits that are common to creatures of your original type.
So, just to make sure I'm understanding this completely... human heritage means we can have an illithid anthropomorphic octopus wereoctopus, with a total of 2 racial HD and +2 LA, right? And that we're still okay to take the totemist class and the aberrant blood and deepspawn feats?Last edited by Ammutseba; 2012-09-17 at 09:04 PM.
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2012-09-17, 09:22 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Wereoctopus
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2012-09-17, 09:29 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Wereoctopus
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A few odds and ends.
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2012-09-17, 10:01 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Wereoctopus
Well, if it's a human heritage illithid, then it has the humanoid subtype, which qualifies it for anthropomorphic animal, and any anthropomorphic octopus has just 2 HD, regardless of how many hit dice the base creature had. So, I suppose it does still have the LA, whatever that is, but not the racial HDs.
Blar. I don't own a monster manual so I can't actually see what the illithid's stats are. :(Well, poo. After a little poking around, this monstrosity appears to be 2 racial HD with a +10 LA, and I can't figure out any good ways to bring that down.Last edited by Ammutseba; 2012-09-17 at 10:13 PM.
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2012-09-18, 01:43 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Wereoctopus
You've horribly misread anthropomorphic animal.
The template is applied to animals and creates monstrous humanoids. It doesn't apply to humanoid creatures at all, IIRC.
Also, mind-flayers have something like 6-8 racial HD that human heritage does not remove.
What you've described -may- be possible, but it would require more cheese than a good fondue party.I am not seaweed. That's a B.
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2012-09-18, 11:06 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Wereoctopus
Oh, so I see. I probably shouldn't have been trying to read the template for lycanthrope at the same time. Sorry about all that.
But, actually, I didn't think the feat would get rid of racial HD. I was reading how many HD anthropomorphs have, and it said nothing about retaining racial, but instead just how many the template made them have.
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2012-09-18, 12:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Wereoctopus
I am not seaweed. That's a B.
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