Dr McNinja III: You Rad Bro?

[NEO|Phyte]

In a way, this is actually kind of sad. Radical spent all those years 'knowing' that he would be successful, because if he wasn't, why would a Chuck Goodrich have gone back in time to prevent it, just like he was doing? And then he gets to the pivotal moment and gets noped.

[Flickerdart]

In a way, this is actually kind of sad. Radical spent all those years 'knowing' that he would be successful, because if he wasn't, why would a Chuck Goodrich have gone back in time to prevent it, just like he was doing? And then he gets to the pivotal moment and gets noped.

This poses an interesting question - is Chuck always successful in his primary mission? Because if so, there is an infinite amount of Chucks who will be coming to McNinja's world. Zombies Chuck's death isn't that important, because there's still infinity of him out there. Hell, the good Doctor can still go and find any of the other Chucks (or all of the other Chucks!) that Zombies Chuck helped, and out-Chuck Sir Sicknasty at his own radical game.

[Kornaki]

Flickerdart, we know dino chuck failed at his mission.

[Flickerdart]

Flickerdart, we know dino chuck failed at his mission.

No he didn't. He may have died in the attempt, but the issue was ultimately resolved, which means there is now an alternate dinosaur-free future, which is sufficient for Chuck propagation when another problem requires time travel to fix.

[NEO|Phyte]

Hell, the good Doctor can still go and find any of the other Chucks (or all of the other Chucks!) that Zombies Chuck helped, and out-Chuck Sir Sicknasty at his own radical game.

With what portal?

[Mando Knight]

With what portal?

They'll find another one, like the one in space.

[Spamotron]

It isn't quite over. As a Chuck Goodrich, King Radical is a time portal dowsing rod. Unless Dr. McNinja stops him in the present he'll just find another one and keep the scheme going.

[Benthesquid]

It isn't quite over. As a Chuck Goodrich, King Radical is a time portal dowsing rod. Unless Dr. McNinja stops him in the present he'll just find another one and keep the scheme going.

Plus, King Radical now has a high level wizard working for him. And some sort of skateboarding shark, and alligator dude, I guess?

[Flickerdart]

Plus, King Radical now has a high level wizard working for him. And some sort of skateboarding shark, and alligator dude, I guess?

I have a feeling that DSP and Ron will square off in a wizard duel in the foreseeable future.

[Tectonic Robot]

These recent updates have been the most confusing in the history of the comic, I think.

[Domino Quartz]

These recent updates have been the most confusing in the history of the comic, I think.

How so? Given the comic they're in, I think they make perfect sense.

[Tectonic Robot]

How so? Given the comic they're in, I think they make perfect sense.

As in, I could not piece together how Chuck Goodrich and King Radical are related, what the assumed earlier king Radical was talking about before, who was whom... it's a little more clear now, but I'm still darn fuzzy on these things.

[Anteros]

As in, I could not piece together how Chuck Goodrich and King Radical are related, what the assumed earlier king Radical was talking about before, who was whom... it's a little more clear now, but I'm still darn fuzzy on these things.

It's explained like 5 times within the last few pages of the thread...but here we go again. Chuck and Radical are alternate versions of each other who each came to Cumberland from an alternate reality through a time portal in an attempt to save their world. They are not the same person, but they are an alternate version of the same person from different realities.

As an aside...have we ever met Chuck prime? It wouldn't surprise me if he shows up at some point.

[Tectonic Robot]

I'm not asking for an explanation, I'm just stating that the comic got confusing in the last few pages, moreso than ever before. No need for exasperation.

[Flickerdart]

As an aside...have we ever met Chuck prime? It wouldn't surprise me if he shows up at some point.

Zombie Chuck might actually be Chuck Prime for McNinjaverse*, since we don't know if there were any other apocalypses prevented before zombies. Given that the problems get more and more absurd as Chucks progress, and zombies are about as cliche as you can get, it's plausible that Zombie Chuck was the first.

*We have no evidence that there was ever a prior Chuck in Radical Land, and Sicknasty has yet to complete his mission, so he's certainly the most recent in his dimension. I hesitate to say whether he came before or after Zombie Chuck, but it doesn't really matter because he's not from the same universe.

[NEO|Phyte]

When time travel is involved, it's very difficult to say who was the first time traveler to arrive. Just because one jumped farther into the past than others doesn't mean he was the first.

That being said, Chuck Prime hasn't shown up yet because the world we've been shown hasn't had a major disaster for Chuck Prime to go back in time to try and stop.

[Kornaki]

Given the timeline of when the other Chucks dealt with their disasters, Chuck Prime is probably six years old or something.

[Giggling Ghast]

Chuck's story ends as we all knew it would. In the only way it could.

[sihnfahl]

Chuck's story ends as we all knew it would. In the only way it could.

At the hands of the only person capable of killing him.

Himself.

[Benthesquid]

At the hands of the only person capable of killing him.

Himself.

So Chuck is the Horrorsaurus?

[Flickerdart]

When time travel is involved, it's very difficult to say who was the first time traveler to arrive. Just because one jumped farther into the past than others doesn't mean he was the first.

It is logical that the Chucks arrive in order of spawning:

• The first timeline has a disaster. In the future of that timeline, Chuck is sent back to avert it and succeeds.
• A second timeline is spawned where disaster 1 did not happen.
• The world progresses past disaster 1.
• The world encounters disaster 2 in the future of disaster 1.
• Disaster 2 breaks everything.
• Chuck is sent back to fix it, but since the disaster happened later, he is sent back to a later point.

It doesn't make sense for a Chuck to go before the first Chuck's disaster (except by accident) because the only reason the world even got to disasters 2 and up is that disaster 1 was averted. If disaster 2 was slated to happen before disaster 1, disaster 2 would have messed things up before disaster 1, disaster 1 would never have happened, and Chuck 1 would have been sent to prevent disaster 2 and not 1.

So the Chucks have to go in order, more or less. The only exception would be things that mature gradually over time and become too dangerous to stop at a certain point, but given that we know Chucks need to lock on to a distinct event, this sort of thing would be really hard to tackle before the maturation point.

[Anteros]

It is logical that the Chucks arrive in order of spawning:

• The first timeline has a disaster. In the future of that timeline, Chuck is sent back to avert it and succeeds.
• A second timeline is spawned where disaster 1 did not happen.
• The world progresses past disaster 1.
• The world encounters disaster 2 in the future of disaster 1.
• Disaster 2 breaks everything.
• Chuck is sent back to fix it, but since the disaster happened later, he is sent back to a later point.

It doesn't make sense for a Chuck to go before the first Chuck's disaster (except by accident) because the only reason the world even got to disasters 2 and up is that disaster 1 was averted. If disaster 2 was slated to happen before disaster 1, disaster 2 would have messed things up before disaster 1, disaster 1 would never have happened, and Chuck 1 would have been sent to prevent disaster 2 and not 1.

So the Chucks have to go in order, more or less. The only exception would be things that mature gradually over time and become too dangerous to stop at a certain point, but given that we know Chucks need to lock on to a distinct event, this sort of thing would be really hard to tackle before the maturation point.

Not necessarily, because not every alternate dimension is an offshoot created by Chuck's time travelling. Look at the Radical lands.

[Flickerdart]

Not necessarily, because not every alternate dimension is an offshoot created by Chuck's time travelling. Look at the Radical lands.

It's not an alternate dimension willy-nilly. It is very specifically a version of the previous timeline where the disaster du jour was averted by a Chuck. I welcome evidence suggesting changes between timelines that don't arise as a result of Chuck's meddling.

[Benthesquid]

It is logical that the Chucks arrive in order of spawning:

• The first timeline has a disaster. In the future of that timeline, Chuck is sent back to avert it and succeeds.
• A second timeline is spawned where disaster 1 did not happen.
• The world progresses past disaster 1.
• The world encounters disaster 2 in the future of disaster 1.
• Disaster 2 breaks everything.
• Chuck is sent back to fix it, but since the disaster happened later, he is sent back to a later point.

It doesn't make sense for a Chuck to go before the first Chuck's disaster (except by accident) because the only reason the world even got to disasters 2 and up is that disaster 1 was averted. If disaster 2 was slated to happen before disaster 1, disaster 2 would have messed things up before disaster 1, disaster 1 would never have happened, and Chuck 1 would have been sent to prevent disaster 2 and not 1.

So the Chucks have to go in order, more or less. The only exception would be things that mature gradually over time and become too dangerous to stop at a certain point, but given that we know Chucks need to lock on to a distinct event, this sort of thing would be really hard to tackle before the maturation point.

Let me propose a contrary scenario.

Chuck N+1 arrives in May of 2014 to stop a Rollerblade Hunter/Yeti Alliance from forming. This Alliance results from a meeting between a Rollerblade Hunter and a Yeti in Cumberland on May 25 of 2014. However, the Nazi Yetis don't seize power until July 2015. There is a distinct event (the Yeti Chief of Outrageous Alliances going into the right Roller Rink at the right time to meet the Rollerblading Huntmaster), but the disaster results more than a year after.

Chuck N arrives in June of 2014 to stop an epidemic of Jetpack Abs that leads to an age of Insanely Fit Overlords ruling the world with Iron Gluts. Said epidemic kicks off in late June of 2014, and in Chuck N's timeline, stops the Rolleryetis before they get started.

[Tebryn]

It's not an alternate dimension willy-nilly. It is very specifically a version of the previous timeline where the disaster du jour was averted by a Chuck. I welcome evidence suggesting changes between timelines that don't arise as a result of Chuck's meddling.

So is our world also a split off from Chuck's time travel as well?

[Lix Lorn]

February 14th, 1479. The last true ninja dies.
January 1st, 2015.
"This world is the most boring place ever."
"...hey I found this weird timespace portal. I can fix that."
"Good job Chuck!"
"Hey, Mr Ninja! COme with me if you want to live."

[Flickerdart]

Let me propose a contrary scenario.

Chuck N+1 arrives in May of 2014 to stop a Rollerblade Hunter/Yeti Alliance from forming. This Alliance results from a meeting between a Rollerblade Hunter and a Yeti in Cumberland on May 25 of 2014. However, the Nazi Yetis don't seize power until July 2015. There is a distinct event (the Yeti Chief of Outrageous Alliances going into the right Roller Rink at the right time to meet the Rollerblading Huntmaster), but the disaster results more than a year after.

Chuck N arrives in June of 2014 to stop an epidemic of Jetpack Abs that leads to an age of Insanely Fit Overlords ruling the world with Iron Gluts. Said epidemic kicks off in late June of 2014, and in Chuck N's timeline, stops the Rolleryetis before they get started.

I did acknowledge this as a possibility, but it's highly unlikely that this happens to Chuck 1. So we could have a few Chucks out of place (especially if all Chucks complete their missions) but it's not horribly relevant.

[PhallicWarrior]

So is our world also a split off from Chuck's time travel as well?

I suspect that our world (the world of the readers) is the incredibly boring world King Radical mentions here. Unfortunate.

[Tebryn]

I suspect that our world (the world of the readers) is the incredibly boring world King Radical mentions here. Unfortunate.

Umm...yes. It most certainly is. I wasn't asking that. I don't think our world is a split off point from the McNinja World and the Radical Lands. I was asking how our world fit in Flickdart's set up since we don't have a Chuck Goodrich or a Time Portal. I'd think those things were fairly reasonable things. Not every parallel universe are a result of Chuck.

[guttering flame]

It seems more straightforward to assume that there was a three-way split sometime in the past that created the Radical, Ninjah and Lame realities. Some worlds are ruled by vaccum cleaners, some by Dinosaurs from outer space and some are most rad. We just didn't get to see how they were split up (Merlin versus Saint Patrick in all likelihood)