Symbiotic Creature

[Snowbluff]

Savage Species. Make 2 creatures... into one.

The smaller one has to be 2 sizes smaller, but you get it's mental stats. You get the bigger one's Physical Stats. Presumably you combine the LA of both, but only the HD of the larger. I guess you add class levels to the total.

So. Who's got some nice combos?

[Aegis013]

Savage Species. Make 2 creatures... into one.

The smaller one has to be 2 sizes smaller, but you get it's mental stats. You get the bigger one's Physical Stats. Presumably you combine the LA of both, but only the HD of the larger. I guess you add class levels to the total.

So. Who's got some nice combos?

There was a thread awhile back by Sgt. Cookie about using that with the Dread Blossom Swarm. Credit where credit is due.

[Kelb_Panthera]

And as I noted in that thread, this template is in the same book that gives advice on ad-hoccing LA. It's probably best to presume that if you put it to use, your DM will give you an ad-hoc LA based on a discussion you have with him on your particular pairing.

[Snowbluff]

And as I noted in that thread, this template is in the same book that gives advice on ad-hoccing LA. It's probably best to presume that if you put it to use, your DM will give you an ad-hoc LA based on a discussion you have with him on your particular pairing.

The +1 LA accounts for that. Unless you are going for some Incarnate Construct negative LA, the combined LA of the Creatures should cover it.

[Morcleon]

A fun monster to use for this would be Choker/Chronotyryn. Arguably gets the choker's quickness for each round of the chronotyryn's two actions.

Much fun with the giant bird's Sorc 21 casting...

[Aegis013]

A fun monster to use for this would be Choker/Chronotyryn. Arguably gets the choker's quickness for each round of the chronotyryn's two actions.

Much fun with the giant bird's Sorc 21 casting...

You'd have to be a Large size race to symbiote up with a Choker, or a Gargantuan race to use the Chronotyryn. Might be hard pressed to find a Gargantuan race with LA that isn't ruinous.

But Choker might still work.

[Morcleon]

You'd have to be a Large size race to symbiote up with a Choker, or a Gargantuan race to use the Chronotyryn. Might be hard pressed to find a Gargantuan race with LA that isn't ruinous.

But Choker might still work.

No, I mean Symbiotic them together. Wouldn't be that good for a PC (what with the choker's Int 4), but would be freaking awesome as an encounter.

[Aegis013]

No, I mean Symbiotic them together. Wouldn't be that good for a PC (what with the choker's Int 4), but would be freaking awesome as an encounter.

Oh. Oooooh. I misunderstood.

[Kelb_Panthera]

Oh. Oooooh. I misunderstood.

What is that, like 4 standards, 2 swifts, and 2 move actions every turn?........ By the gods

[Snowbluff]

Oh Morcleon... lol

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[Morcleon]

What is that, like 4 standards, 2 swifts, and 2 move actions every turn?........ By the gods

Yep!

Now, if you turned it's Sorc 21 into Psion 21, and gave it Synchronicity and Schism...

Oh Morcleon... lol

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[Biffoniacus_Furiou]

Right here, which includes the abomination that is the Half-Fey Greenbound Quasit guest. (Do note however, that doesn't actually work per the Type Pyramid in Savage Species p142-143.) Most of the template tricks in that guide do work, though.