League of Legends XLII: I Hope The New Champ Is Vi-able

[Math_Mage]

First item should probably be Warmogs at this point. If you want CDR Kindlegem.

Boots vary on lane/enemy comp.

After that you should probably go for CDR and tank items. Frozen Fist, Spirit Visage, Shurelias.

At least, that if you want to be a tank. If you want to play crit plank get Hydra, Static Shiv, and infinity edge.

Full tank Gangplank is a big wall of meat that doesn't actually accomplish much. Mix damage and your tanky items for best results.

[JKTrickster]

You know Warmogs is really OP right now

I swear rushing it on a Shen (or really any top lane champion that isn't full bruiser) almost guarantees I never lose the lane.

Anyone else have this "problem"? (I really don't think its a problem - more like a solution to all this quite strong bruisers who rush Black Cleaver).

[Khaeta]

At least, that if you want to be a tank. If you want to play crit plank get Hydra, Static Shiv, and infinity edge.

How does Hydra interact with Parrrley?

EDIT: As I feared, I missed a few 'r's...

[Reynard]

How does Hydra interact with Parrrley?

EDIT: As I feared, I missed a few 'r's...

It counts, activating the splash damage, but it's still based off of your AD and not the Parrrrrrrrrley damage. And I remember hearing in-game that if the splash kills multiple minions then you get parrrrrrrrrrrrley's bonus gold on all of them.

[McDouggal]

So, played Amumu jungle in ranked solo. 3 ganks, 4 kills. Then teamfights. I have Giants belt, Merc Treads, and Spirit Stone.

They aren't attacking me, even when I initiate.

I rush Rylai's. I have never felt so dirty.

EDIT: Finished 3/2/16. With a double kill.

[NineThePuma]

Rylai's, Liandry's, Abyssal, Spirit Golem, RoA, Sorc Shoes.

You're deceptively tanky, and you hit like a massive truck of death.

[TheShrike]

So is the new patch completely broken for anyone else? By which I mean I have friends running around with negative gold, I am unable to control my character (doesn't respond to input) and my graphics are glitching all over the place.

[toasty]

Full tank Gangplank is a big wall of meat that doesn't actually accomplish much. Mix damage and your tanky items for best results.

Frozen Fist and CDR. You are super good at peeling for your ADC that way. But then again, if you want to KILL STUFF, then yeah, stuff like Triforce or Black Cleaver (I guess) is good. I've always been a fan of the tankplank though.

[McDouggal]

So is the new patch completely broken for anyone else? By which I mean I have friends running around with negative gold, I am unable to control my character (doesn't respond to input) and my graphics are glitching all over the place.

I've had some problems with lag, but nothing major. And I think that it might be my roommate playing BF3.

[TheShrike]

Well, myself, Winstonthe4th, HotshotGG and Link115 all had huge lag issues at the same time, so it's safe to assume that was NA-related. It turns out the graphics issue I am having is fixed by updating my graphics card drivers to the newest beta version, which makes me think it might be similar to when RAGE didn't work on ATI cards on release (game was written for drivers that weren't available for public use yet).

No word yet on why Winston had negative gold when buying items.

[The_Ditto]

Ok, so I setup Mumble, I'm no the server, I can see people around doing .. "things". I read the rules of conduct (yeah, me) :)

So, how does one usually hook up in a game? I hate being "rude" by jumping into a channel or such, so just wondering how people generally arrange a game on there? What'st he standard routine?

[Nadevoc]

Ok, so I setup Mumble, I'm no the server, I can see people around doing .. "things". I read the rules of conduct (yeah, me) :)

So, how does one usually hook up in a game? I hate being "rude" by jumping into a channel or such, so just wondering how people generally arrange a game on there? What'st he standard routine?

It varies. Feel free to jump into channels with people and ask around; it's only rude if you're talking over people. I'd generally avoid interrupting if people are obviously in a game.

My preferred method is to get on people's LoL friends list as a Mumbler. A lot of people will just send out invites to a bunch of people.

EDIT: Basically, there is no standard routine. Some people jump around into populated rooms and ask if there's a group with room with one more. Some people take initiative and invite/ask if people are up for a game. Some folks are passive and just basically hope for invites. Joining a channel isn't rude in any form.

[LordShotGun]

Ok, so I setup Mumble, I'm no the server, I can see people around doing .. "things". I read the rules of conduct (yeah, me) :)

So, how does one usually hook up in a game? I hate being "rude" by jumping into a channel or such, so just wondering how people generally arrange a game on there? What'st he standard routine?

I know this feeling. Just jump into a channel that has alot of people in it and ask if anyone is free to play a game of league. That is just about the only way to get people going in mumble.

Later on when you get everyone on your friends list you can often just spam invites to people who are free and then set up a channel in mumble that you join together for your game.

Edit: Zed'd

[Khaeta]

Ok, so I setup Mumble, I'm no the server, I can see people around doing .. "things". I read the rules of conduct (yeah, me) :)

So, how does one usually hook up in a game? I hate being "rude" by jumping into a channel or such, so just wondering how people generally arrange a game on there? What'st he standard routine?

Well, you basically just sit in a channel awkwardly until you finally decide that you're going to join a random channel and listen in because you have nothing better to do. And then someone leaves and you end up playing a game.

[Outsideheaven]

Been lurking here for a really long while.

Forum name is the same as my NA and EUW accounts.

Server: NA (28) EUW (30)
Summoner Name: Outsideheaven

Guess it's time I try playing with you guys. Hi.

I mostly main top laners, but I love playing Kassadin.

[Postmodernist]

Yeah, I should add myself here.

Server: NA (30)
Summoner Name: Postmodernist

Support, Top.

[toasty]

Ugh. I keep playing in streaks. I literally lost 6 games in a row. I've gotten a lot better at controlling my attitude and emotions when playing, but I still play in streaks.

I lose 6 games in a row and feel like I'm terrible, then I win 4 games in a row and feel like my elo has been reset (well, to be fair, the 1st game was a 4v5, but the next three were hilariously easy all things considered).

[dgnslyr]

Rylai's, Liandry's, Abyssal, Spirit Golem, RoA, Sorc Shoes.

You're deceptively tanky, and you hit like a massive truck of death.

This is basically my jungle Moomsy build, except RoA is way too much of a luxury for a gold-strapped jungler. I'd personally get Frozen Heart instead, because I have a fetish for CDR, but Warmog's or Randuin's would also work.

[Math_Mage]

Frozen Fist and CDR. You are super good at peeling for your ADC that way. But then again, if you want to KILL STUFF, then yeah, stuff like Triforce or Black Cleaver (I guess) is good. I've always been a fan of the tankplank though.

If you wanted to play Tankplank with extra slow, Frozen Mallet has been available for years, but that Gangplank was never particularly strong. When bruiser CDR options are better than ever, why would you build GP tanky CDR down the line? I could see some build order towards Warmog's, Cleaver, Frozen Fist, LW; or aether's suggestion of IE, Shiv, and tanky; but a Mundo build? No.

[Maeglin_Dubh]

For jungling Fiora, what start works best? Longsword/pot? Dorans? Double Bead into Tiamat? Machete+5?

I start WEQE, then max R>E>W>Q.

[dgnslyr]

In S3, I can't think of a single jungler who doesn't want to start Machete, and I'm not sure how I feel about this development. At the least, you can't go wrong with Machete start as a jungler, machete + 5 should work fine.

I want to say Stonewall starts with Riposte, then Burst of Speed on Fiora, with Lunge after that. He's my go-to resource for oh-snap-how-do-I-jungle.

[LordShotGun]

Ugh. I keep playing in streaks. I literally lost 6 games in a row. I've gotten a lot better at controlling my attitude and emotions when playing, but I still play in streaks.

I lose 6 games in a row and feel like I'm terrible, then I win 4 games in a row and feel like my elo has been reset (well, to be fair, the 1st game was a 4v5, but the next three were hilariously easy all things considered).

This is why,(and you may think I am joking but I am serious) I have an entire folder of over 2000+ funny pictures, gifs and comics that I just page through after I have a bad day or something like what you said with a horrible losing streak.

Go on 9gag or youtube search funny cat videos until you feel better. I know it works for me.

[Maeglin_Dubh]

In S3, I can't think of a single jungler who doesn't want to start Machete, and I'm not sure how I feel about this development. At the least, you can't go wrong with Machete start as a jungler, machete + 5 should work fine.

I want to say Stonewall starts with Riposte, then Burst of Speed on Fiora, with Lunge after that. He's my go-to resource for oh-snap-how-do-I-jungle.

So, he skills the same way I do.

Still working out what items to work towards, since there's a lot of new stuff she likes.

Zephyr, BotRK, and Hydra are all super-good-looking on her.

[Outsideheaven]

I'm really not all that sure about BotRK and Zephyr on Fiora. Guess it depends on your build, and I forgot if I read it here, but BotRK is much more efficient when you're not building AD and are building only one or two offensive items. If you're going for 3-4 offensive items and less tank, BT wins out. As for Zephyr, I guess it could be useful, and a replacement for PD, if you didn't go for tabi or the spirit of the ancient golem thing out of the jungle. I'd probably do core BC + Hydra + Warmog. Maybe Frozen Mallet for the slows and a PD or something?

Haven't played Fiora in a long while, but yeah.

I guess BotRK could be cool in the sense that you'd do huge AoE if it interacts with your ult (Along with the Hydra) and you ult their whole team at full HP, but once they're at 50% health or less, the BT is going to outdamage it.

[dgnslyr]

The Bork-bork will actually outdamage Bludthirsta when you whack someone with over 1500 health. Against a lower-health target, BT wins out. Building crit tilts the advantage towards BT, but since nobody but carries build much crit at all, it's not terribly important for bruisers. Take that how you will.

Bloodthirster is a stronger item if you have strong AD ratios, though Fiora really doesn't, when her only AD ratios are her rather unspectacular Lunge and her ult, which procs on-hits anyways, and is basically a modified autoattack of sorts.

I think Fiora would actually benefit from Hydra as a third big AD item, after, say, Cleavage and Bork-Bork. Her wave clear isn't phenomenal, so with it she'll be able to push out quickly, which is always useful once you're no longer laning.

Also Hydra and BC means she'll have more cleavage in her build. please don't hurt me please don't hurt me

[Outsideheaven]

As a bruiser (Or melee carry who might actually build crit?) with no peel I'd assume Fiora is usually going for the squishies (ADCs probably) who usually have what? 1800 HP? Which is why I would prefer BT on her over BotRK. Unless their whole team is stacking HP.

Edit: Wow. I figured I'd try Fiora and test out some items on her and guess who's probably their top laner.

Malphite.

[TheShrike]

I'm seeing a lot of carries building Warmog's as their defensive item nowadays, for what it's worth.

[Laudandus]

The Bork-bork will actually outdamage Bludthirsta when you whack someone with over 1500 health.

It's current health, not max, so it only outdamages bloodthirster as long as they're still above 1500 health. Bloodthirster is usually better unless you really want the slow from Cutlass to snowball lane, which is unusual because Brutalizer is usually better for snowballing lane.

Re : Ganplank builds. I play a ton of Gangplank and I've experimented with most types of builds on him, though I haven't played him since the Frozen Fist nerf (it's still probably good on him). In general you want a lane dominance item first, which means damage because you max W first in lane. Either I go dblades -> glacial shroud -> frozen fist, or I go statik shiv. Occasionally I'll rush BotRK if the enemy toplaner rushed Warmog's. In general my "core" three items are shiv/fist/warmog's, which are all extremely good on the geepster. After that lots of items are good, but they're all super situational.

[Outsideheaven]

I did pretty great. I was almost 1v5ing them successfully at one point, but our Nid and Yi were completely useless and fed Ahri hard and early.

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Also:
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Support Annie doing more damage to champions than jungle Yi and mid Nid. With less farm.

As for GP: S2 6 Tiamat build was the best. Maybe 5 Tiamats and an IE. Oneshot teams by hitting minions.

[Boowells]

I did pretty great. I was almost 1v5ing them successfully at one point, but our Nid and Yi were completely useless and fed Ahri hard and early.

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Also:
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/495...0117000655.png

Support Annie doing more damage to champions than jungle Yi and mid Nid. With less farm.

As for GP: S2 6 Tiamat build was the best. Maybe 5 Tiamats and an IE. Oneshot teams by hitting minions.

To be fair, Annie is known for her crazy base damages, IIRC.