Crusader Kings 2 Thread II: Sparkly Vampire Invasion

[Flickerdart]

DLC time. Just started my first ironman game as the republic of Amalfi with the goal of restoring the Roman Republic.

Don't you have to be Orthodox to do that? Or do you mean just straight up get the land, without the title?

[pffh]

Don't you have to be Orthodox to do that? Or do you mean just straight up get the land, without the title?

Already taken care of by accident. The second person to inherit was Orthodox so I didn't have to bother with education or convert to lieges religion. So far I've sworn fealty to the Basileus and the Kingdom of Sicily is mine. My next goal is moving into Greece to gain enough electoral titles to maintain laws in my favour.

[OrcusMcP]

While there is a pretty serious issue regarding how much piety and therefore how much moral authority the Pope generates, Sons of Abraham makes playing Catholics fun again.

I just ran into an event chain with major The Omen references resulting in a genius Demon Child. Hell yeah!

I know I need to be updating my LP, shut up!

[Guancyto]

I was messing around to look at people's holy orders, events and mechanics, and I got this:

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Yes, that is 1.6 million Mongols. Yes, it's a bug. Yes, it's awesome.

[Flickerdart]

I'm sad that they didn't do a DLC sale. Kind of wanted to pick up Aztec Invasion.

[Starsign]

I'm sad that they didn't do a DLC sale. Kind of wanted to pick up Aztec Invasion.

Same here. I have no DLC yet and I really want to get The Old Gods.

[Flickerdart]

Same here. I have no DLC yet and I really want to get The Old Gods.

Winter is coming, which means massive Steam sales. Paradox usually hits CK2 stuff with 50% to 75% off, so you should be happily swarmed with vikings in about a month.

[Grif]

Those who played the newest DLC, could you guys elaborate what the DLC exactly changes for Catholic rulers? (whether for good or worse) I'm a little hazy on the details.

[OrcusMcP]

Those who played the newest DLC, could you guys elaborate what the DLC exactly changes for Catholic rulers? (whether for good or worse) I'm a little hazy on the details.

-The Papacy now has a College of Cardinals to elect the new Popes, and if you can get your bishops into the College and eventually the Big Chair you can ask the Pope for favours(money, divorces, crusades, invasions) that you couldn't before.
-You can borrow money from Jews and Holy Orders(once they are there), people can take the vows or be forced to take the vows and join the Orders.
-You can go on pilgrimages much like how Muslims go on the Hajj.
-LOTS AND LOTS OF NEW EVENTS.
-Money gain is much slower, and being in the red is much harsher so as to make borrowing something you'll actually have to do.
EDIT: Also, Crusades(and jihads, etc) and Holy Orders are much more dynamic in their initial happening, rather than hard coded dates.

There are a couple of kinks to sort out as there always are.

I actually saw the AI King of France set up an Anti-Pope. I've never seen the AI do that ever. That was worth it, to me.

[Flickerdart]

Has anyone had trouble with activating Ironman mode? The button is greyed out for me, even when I unload the ruler designer (and I don't use mods).

I'm also kind of disappointed with the Khazar Jews. All you get is Passover (100 piety and prestige for 15gp seems kind of OP honestly) and really lazy "restore country" and "restore religion" things that Zoroastrians and Byzantines have had for ages now, which are also preposterously overpriced.

They really did shake up religion though - Iconoclasty just killed Orthodoxy (but only in Byzantium, leaving Bulgaria and Georgia at my mercy) and one of the Karlings got himself an antipope. There are also a lot of Manicheans popping up.

[pffh]

There are also a whole bunch of special events for the jews just like the other abrahamic faiths got.

[Flickerdart]

I haven't gotten any events and my first ruler is nearly dead already.

[Grif]

-The Papacy now has a College of Cardinals to elect the new Popes, and if you can get your bishops into the College and eventually the Big Chair you can ask the Pope for favours(money, divorces, crusades, invasions) that you couldn't before.
-You can borrow money from Jews and Holy Orders(once they are there), people can take the vows or be forced to take the vows and join the Orders.
-You can go on pilgrimages much like how Muslims go on the Hajj.
-LOTS AND LOTS OF NEW EVENTS.
-Money gain is much slower, and being in the red is much harsher so as to make borrowing something you'll actually have to do.
EDIT: Also, Crusades(and jihads, etc) and Holy Orders are much more dynamic in their initial happening, rather than hard coded dates.

There are a couple of kinks to sort out as there always are.

I actually saw the AI King of France set up an Anti-Pope. I've never seen the AI do that ever. That was worth it, to me.

Sounds good. Will be saving up for this DLC now.

[Farix]

Ironman works fine for me but I just can't play it. It autosaves on a monthly basis so it's a constant stream of momentary pauses if you're playing a top speed. If they let it autosave on an annual or five year basis it would absolutely be worth it and while I understand why it's monthly saves the constant hitches to gameplay just aren't worth it.



On a side note: Antipopes everywhere.

[OrcusMcP]

I had anti-popes before Sons of Abraham made it cool. /hipster

The Omen event chain is so friggin amazing. Holy crap. When your demon spawn grows up, they immediately gain Genius, Possessed, Impaler, Voice of Satan, all kinds of sins, and they are likely to kill EVERYBODY.

[Flickerdart]

I had anti-popes before Sons of Abraham made it cool. /hipster

The Omen event chain is so friggin amazing. Holy crap. When your demon spawn grows up, they immediately gain Genius, Possessed, Impaler, Voice of Satan, all kinds of sins, and they are likely to kill EVERYBODY.

That sounds awesome. Is there a way to trigger event chains with console commands?

[Farix]

That sounds awesome. Is there a way to trigger event chains with console commands?

Yup, its just 'event #'

Did a search for the specific ID # of the Omen chain but couldn't find anything. Maybe 10101 but no guarantee (For reference on ID #'s).

[OrcusMcP]

Yup, its just 'event #'

Did a search for the specific ID # of the Omen chain but couldn't find anything. Maybe 10101 but no guarantee (For reference on ID #'s).

I think it's 30000 or something close to it, someone on the Paradox forums pointed it out.

[Hyena]

There is only one single thing that I want or can say about this so called "Sons of Abraham" DLC.

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SGNIHT GNIVIL LLA EMUSNOC LIWW TEHPORP SIH REFICUL LIAH

[OrcusMcP]

There is only one single thing that I want or can say about this so called "Sons of Abraham" DLC.

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SGNIHT GNIVIL LLA EMUSNOC LIWW TEHPORP SIH REFICUL LIAH

IA! IA! ANGRA MAINYU FTAGHN!

IT'S ALL FOR YOU!!!!

[Rockphed]

So, how about them wives dying in childbirth and having sickly babies?

[Hyena]

Have seen plenty of sick babies, but as much of half of them recovers. Haven't seen a single death by childbirth yet.

[Flickerdart]

I've seen some childbirth deaths (only in the events, never to my own wife) but no sickly babies yet.

Also, looks like Elective Succession was heavily nerfed - a -15 penalty to opinion of every elector per elector title beyond the first is pretty heavy stuff.

[Hyena]

Also, looks like Elective Succession was heavily nerfed - a -15 penalty to opinion of every elector per elector title beyond the first is pretty heavy stuff.

Meh, gonna use it anyway.

What annoys me severely is one theocracy/republic permitted -I want my norse papal states with landed godi back!

[IthilanorStPete]

Also, looks like Elective Succession was heavily nerfed - a -15 penalty to opinion of every elector per elector title beyond the first is pretty heavy stuff.

That's fair; Elective was pretty broken as it was.

[Rockphed]

I've seen some childbirth deaths (only in the events, never to my own wife) but no sickly babies yet.

Also, looks like Elective Succession was heavily nerfed - a -15 penalty to opinion of every elector per elector title beyond the first is pretty heavy stuff.

So now elective kings can hold 1 duchy without penalty? Or can they only hold the kingdom?

[Flickerdart]

I kind of want to play a 1066 start now and see what happens with the HRE, since historically the same family basically stayed in power the whole time.

[Grif]

I kind of want to play a 1066 start now and see what happens with the HRE, since historically the same family basically stayed in power the whole time.

Well, they didn't stay with the Salians. (Or the Hohenstaufen, for that matter.) The whole stay in the family thing only happened after the Habsburg got their grubby hands on the throne.

[Flickerdart]

Are there any Habsburgs in CK2?

[Guancyto]

The Why You Should Play As Any Particular Character thread locates one at the Stamford Bridge start date.

Werner von Habsburg, Count of Aargau.