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    "It's been a while since you called me."
    "Yeah, uh, you're strong, but you look super dumb. However, I need your power more than I care about people knowing I hang out with Child-Limb-Jafar and Buffalo Wings."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spojaz View Post
    "It's been a while since you called me."
    "Yeah, uh, you're strong, but you look super dumb. However, I need your power more than I care about people knowing I hang out with Child-Limb-Jafar and Buffalo Wings."
    Witch of Slaughter: ... so Devil Beride and Devil Jagan were totally powerful, but they were, like, completely dumb-looking.
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    Wooooooooah, what? Goetic Demons?

    Gentlemen and ladies, I believe these dumb looking guys are Andras and Marchosias.


    EDIT Wellll maybe not Andras, he has to have the birdhead I guess.
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    New Chapter!

    Clever tactic ahoy! Although the whole 'game' focus in this one was pretty awkward and out of place in what should be a fairly super tense situation.

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    Clever tactic ahoy! Although the whole 'game' focus in this one was pretty awkward and out of place in what should be a fairly super tense situation.
    Why would it be tense? There are a bunch of weenies that are being wiped out, with no real threats around. This update had more jokes than most we've seen so far. It's very clearly the calm before the storm. Though personally I'm concerned that after voice chat comes streaming and then pro gaming.

    That aside, the "XP distribution" option seems very valuable when fighting alongside super high level guys.
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    I'm going to be honest, "the Welsh became a Great Power and conquered Germany" is almost exactly the opposite of the explanation I was expecting

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flickerdart View Post
    Why would it be tense? There are a bunch of weenies that are being wiped out, with no real threats around. This update had more jokes than most we've seen so far. It's very clearly the calm before the storm. Though personally I'm concerned that after voice chat comes streaming and then pro gaming.

    That aside, the "XP distribution" option seems very valuable when fighting alongside super high level guys.
    Are we going to start getting people streaming their attempts at living in the abyss? Maybe have some people commentate on the whole thing?

    For 'tense' I dunno, you see a high level character summon up something she hasn't done in a while in defense of a target that the main character is supposed to be invading, seems like something that should have at least a moment or two of 'ahh oh no', not jokes about the wifi speed in hell.

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    I never got the impression he was invading anything. Sure, he's going over there, and the Witch and Warrior are supposed to be defending it from enemies, but he's not one of them.
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    I'm going to be honest, "the Welsh became a Great Power and conquered Germany" is almost exactly the opposite of the explanation I was expecting

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    Of course there's voice chat. And hey, no awkward misunderstanding jokes about forming a party, so that's a plus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Otomodachi View Post
    Wooooooooah, what? Goetic Demons?

    Gentlemen and ladies, I believe these dumb looking guys are Andras and Marchosias.


    EDIT Wellll maybe not Andras, he has to have the birdhead I guess.
    Not sure about 'Jagan' (Marchosias seems like a fair guess) but I would place 'Beride' as Berith or maybe Eligor. Probably Berith, given that name can be corrupted into Beride pretty easily.

    Edit: Oh, I see at least the Mangacow translation has them titled as Berith and Zagan. Yeah, ok, that makes more sense. Didn't recognize Zagan because he somehow has not shown up in Shin Megami games.
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    Han Jee-Han: Um, you know how I wasn't suitably impressed about that "Sage" thing earlier? I'm impressed now. My gamer ability says your level is 142, that's like 3 times the highest I've ever seen on anyone who didn't just have question marks for their level.

    Nice to get some context for the audience too. We now have a concrete indicator of just how far Han still has to go to reach the big leagues. He may be out of the trash tier, above the ranks of the common folk (even considering only ability users), but his power is still nothing compared to the real heavy hitters.

    Of course, this makes me wonder how BS fits in, with having hired two mercenaries that are each three times his own level, and yet them taking it seriously when he says to call him for backup against the really big threats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Douglas View Post
    Of course, this makes me wonder how BS fits in, with having hired two mercenaries that are each three times his own level, and yet them taking it seriously when he says to call him for backup against the really big threats.
    I'm guessing he has some really seriously impressive summons available that don't translate well into personal level. Like, imagine if Jee Han managed to grind out 20 more levels using *nothing* except elemental summoning and golems. Not fighting for xp, not training his other talents at the same time, just repeatedly creating the beefiest elementals and golems he can. He'd 'only' be level 54, and the only direct improvement he would have had from that would be the extra stat points.. but his summons would be like level 1000. Or evolved version 10/Level 99 or whatever. He could probably awaken the planet, either as an Earth elemental or a golem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Douglas View Post
    Of course, this makes me wonder how BS fits in, with having hired two mercenaries that are each three times his own level, and yet them taking it seriously when he says to call him for backup against the really big threats.
    It seems that the "levels" thing Jee Han sees doesn't account very well for powerful unique abilities, such as his own. It's possible that Black Summoner possesses a similar power that isn't reflected in his level and stats but makes him very dangerous to powerful but solitary opponents.
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    Okay, the aside about the demon-gods pooling their power together to get Internet in hell so that the demons can play Korean MMOs is just hilarious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquillion View Post
    Witch of Slaughter: ... so Devil Beride and Devil Jagan were totally powerful, but they were, like, completely dumb-looking.
    Dylan: Indeed. A most grave conundrum you faced.
    How did you know their names so early? Are you self-translating the Raw?
    Anyway, I still think of Zajan (president of hell) as buffalo wings. heh.

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    Speaking of which, how can Hell have both a President and a Grand Duke?
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    Han Jee-Han: Um, you know how I wasn't suitably impressed about that "Sage" thing earlier? I'm impressed now. My gamer ability says your level is 142, that's like 3 times the highest I've ever seen on anyone who didn't just have question marks for their level.

    Nice to get some context for the audience too. We now have a concrete indicator of just how far Han still has to go to reach the big leagues. He may be out of the trash tier, above the ranks of the common folk (even considering only ability users), but his power is still nothing compared to the real heavy hitters.

    Of course, this makes me wonder how BS fits in, with having hired two mercenaries that are each three times his own level, and yet them taking it seriously when he says to call him for backup against the really big threats.
    We have no idea what level the BS is currently. In the time since we have seen him, every other character has gained 10+ levels.

    There is also the very distinct possibility that the BS we saw originally was not, in fact, the actual physical one, but some sort of lower level projection/construct/shapeshifting summon. We've already seen the Mother go from ??? to medium level then back to ???, suggesting that it was some sort of construct/illusion, but it gave no indication other than it's level that it was not the real Mother. Given how the Black Summoner seems to be somewhat of a threat to the entire Yun Hon clan, it would be very easy for the author to pull that out and say 'Hahaha the REAL Black Summoner is level 250'.

    And of course there is the possibility that he has formed summoning contracts with beings much more powerful than he might be himself. Even if he is level 50, that doesn't mean he hasn't made some sort of tribute/deal with a level 500 demon - which may be what he was sucking up all those zombie souls for. 50,000 zombie souls = 1 hour of level 500 soul-eating demon under his control, or something along those lines.

    Also, remember, 'level' is something that ONLY Jee-Han can see. Other than their own senses everybody else has no way of actually quantifying another being's power. Black Summoner was pretty confident he could beat an A rank that the other 2 didn't believe they could, and the other's seemed pretty willing to accept it.

    Also - remember, both of them ARE still ????. He can see their exact level ONLY because they are now in his party (pretty true in most games - you can see levels and stats of direct allies no matter how high, but the same level on an enemy or even a neutral will be ???). We still have no comparison for their power level relative to the Mother or the Chunbumoon Elder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flickerdart View Post
    Speaking of which, how can Hell have both a President and a Grand Duke?
    Most of the Goetic 72 are basically the same 5 demons repeated over and over, with whatever title somebody thought sounded neat. I wouldn't think about it too hard. Probably somebody wrote down a ritual claiming to summon a Duke, and then somebody else said 'oh yeah? Well I know how to bind a GRAND Duke!' and then even later on when Presidents started being a thing somebody else went "hmm, these feudal demons are so last century. I bet I can bind a President!'

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    What will Jee-han do when he runs into the true bane of all gamers? Lag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flickerdart View Post
    That aside, the "XP distribution" option seems very valuable when fighting alongside super high level guys.
    Unless he somehow gets a new Ability to let him share XP better, that is not the case. That aspect of Parties only works within 10 levels of difference, remember?

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    Quote Originally Posted by danelsan View Post
    Unless he somehow gets a new Ability to let him share XP better, that is not the case. That aspect of Parties only works within 10 levels of difference, remember?
    He got an Ability for washing dishes. I think we can expect him to make anything into one (except teleporting, clearly).
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    New Chapter(Well last weeks chapter, just I can actually get mangajoy to load entirely now)

    For someone who should be protecting the area from intruders, the witch seems oddly trusting of Jee-Han(far more then I'd expect the summoner to allow).

    Also is the fiery little red-head(I seriously suck with names...) is getting a crush oooOoooOOooOoo.

    And looks like a new challenger approaches?

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    New Chapter!

    Bit of a spacer here.

    And a little bit more.

    Looks like we're finally seeing some higher ranks go at it. Also Zagan's ability seems either poorly translated, or really sorta lame. Doesn't the Chun-Bu Breathing technique already give Jee-Han more of a boost then 10%?

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    Not a boost of 10%, he can use 10% of his power while summoned which is presumably a better percentage than others get.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ibrinar View Post
    Not a boost of 10%, he can use 10% of his power while summoned which is presumably a better percentage than others get.
    Yep--the restricted demons only get 5%.

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    Wow. The Witch said that she would have trouble with A-rank guys, and here comes an S-rank. If ranks and levels are at all related, all Jee Han will be able to do is run away, or maybe use his Gamer's Mind to coordinate his party members strategically.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flickerdart View Post
    Wow. The Witch said that she would have trouble with A-rank guys, and here comes an S-rank. If ranks and levels are at all related, all Jee Han will be able to do is run away, or maybe use his Gamer's Mind to coordinate his party members strategically.
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    Am i the only one who though this chapter were rather.. mediocre..?

    I dont know if it was the translation.. but it certainly seemed like there were a huge drop in quality.
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    It's probably because the main character barely appeared in this chapter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lord_khaine View Post
    Am i the only one who though this chapter were rather.. mediocre..?

    I dont know if it was the translation.. but it certainly seemed like there were a huge drop in quality.
    Might just be the art style on the demons, they still look kinda weird and out of place, and it doesn't really mesh well with the normal art style(they were also the focus of this one). Which now that I write out, might be the intent, but the art style is still...kinda childish? for all that.

    But it's also just setting up threats right now/massive shows of power without a sense to gauge them by. I mean the big action sequence was basically demon A slamming into man B. Nothing happened at all between them because they were I guess evenly matched, but we don't really have any sense of how strong either is beyond 'They're a rank S' so we don't know what they're capable of in relation to Jee-Han.

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