The OotS Magic Compendium

[TheWombatOfDoom]

Vampires have no particular weakness to "someone did a trivial amount of damage to me with a stake." A stake through the heart would kill anybody. "Belkar can't possibly do as much damage as this webcomic just indicated he does," in every context, should leave the Order of the Stick forum for the Here We Optimize By The Letter of D&D Rulez forum.

I agree whole heartedly. I'm just here to track spells and chew bubble gum. And I'm all outta bubble gum.

[TheWombatOfDoom]

SOoooooo...

Gods.

When they do things they cast spells too right?

Because if so, would we be counting Thor shrinking himself, flying, and getting to the memorial plane?

[Grey_Wolf_c]

SOoooooo...

Gods.

When they do things they cast spells too right?

Because if so, would we be counting Thor shrinking himself, flying, and getting to the memorial plane?

Not necessarily. They might be Extraordinary, Supernatural and/or Spell-like abilities, none of which are spells per-se (the last gets obviously very close).

Whether you want to count them or not is up to you. I have no horse in that race.

Grey Wolf

[Sorator]

SOoooooo...

Gods.

When they do things they cast spells too right?

Because if so, would we be counting Thor shrinking himself, flying, and getting to the memorial plane?

Ehhh. There's not really any indication that stuff involved casting any spells (unless I'm misremembering); seems more like inherent godly abilities to me?

Edit: Ninja'd.

[TheWombatOfDoom]

Not necessarily. They might be Extraordinary, Supernatural and/or Spell-like abilities, none of which are spells per-se (the last gets obviously very close).

Whether you want to count them or not is up to you. I have no horse in that race.

Grey Wolf

We've counted Supernatural and Spell-like abilities in the past with beings such as vampires. Would Gods really be that different?

[Grey_Wolf_c]

We've counted Supernatural and Spell-like abilities in the past with beings such as vampires. Would Gods really be that different?

Did you count dragon breath (supernatural)?

Ad yeah, they're different in that there aren't stats for them, so what exactly they are doing to create those effects is gonna be tricky to figure out. I'd recommend classifying them as divine abilities and calling it good enough.

Grey Wolf

[TheWombatOfDoom]

Did you count dragon breath (supernatural)?

Ad yeah, they're different in that there aren't stats for them, so what exactly they are doing to create those effects is gonna be tricky to figure out. I'd recommend classifying them as divine abilities and calling it good enough.

Grey Wolf

We haven't but we should. I counted Darkness for the Black Dragon. If someone could start working on locating the dragon breaths that would certainly help!

Also, I notice we are lacking in our bardic music category. I'll need help locating these as well.

[Adghar]

I don't play much D&D so I don't know if this is a mistake or not, but I think you previously moved Righteous Might from the Magic Abilities list back over to Magic Compendium (aka a Spell, not a class ability). However, Hel's Might (Cleric) is still listed under Magic Abilities, so I'm guessing you want to move that back over to the Spell list as well.

EDIT: Procrastinating at work so I might as well start work on the Bardic Music listings.

Bardic Music
1
4
6
19
34
41
61
125
181
200 (no other reason for him to use the kazoo)
238 (I don't know if pied piper thing counts)
(no other appearances noticed by me in the range #1 through #313)

[TheWombatOfDoom]

I don't play much D&D so I don't know if this is a mistake or not, but I think you previously moved Righteous Might from the Magic Abilities list back over to Magic Compendium (aka a Spell, not a class ability). However, Hel's Might (Cleric) is still listed under Magic Abilities, so I'm guessing you want to move that back over to the Spell list as well.

EDIT: Procrastinating at work so I might as well start work on the Bardic Music listings.

Bardic Music
1
4
6
19
34
41
61
125
181
200 (no other reason for him to use the kazoo)
238 (I don't know if pied piper thing counts)
(no other appearances noticed by me in the range #1 through #313)

Hel's Might and Thor's Might are both located in Magic Abilities, referring to Righteous Might. If there's any counts of Righteous Might that aren't listed please lemme know!

I'll get to adding Bardic Music things! Great work!

[knag]

I count 41 instances of bardic music use. I'm not sure how granular you want to be with this. For instance 890 uses the Song of Freedom ability, which is a type of bardic music ability. In most cases, its impossible to know if he's using Inspire Courage, Inspire Greatness, or Inspire Heroics during combat (if, indeed he can Inspire Heroics). The instances of Inspire Competence should be easier to spot, such as 4 and 880. 238 is probably the only time he uses Fascinate (and Suggestion), and I don't think he's ever used Countersong. 890 is the only Song of Freedom. Anyway, hope that list is helpful.

[dtilque]

What spell was used by Thor in 1141? The images don't talk and don't seem to be moving, so Silent Image? Or some unnamed devine ability?

[TheWombatOfDoom]

What spell was used by Thor in 1141? The images don't talk and don't seem to be moving, so Silent Image? Or some unnamed devine ability?

Silent Image looks about right.

What about him shrinking size?

I'm thinking the transferring into the memorial realm to be a plane shift maybe? And the most obvious one is fly, of course.

[hamishspence]

Silent Image looks about right.

What about him shrinking size?

http://www.d20srd.org/srd/divine/div....htm#alterSize

That would allow him to be up to 1600 ft tall in the scenes where they're standing on his boots - allowing for a reasonable amount of walking distance across the furred part of the boot, to his armoured ankle.

[TheWombatOfDoom]

http://www.d20srd.org/srd/divine/div....htm#alterSize

That would allow him to be up to 1600 ft tall in the scenes where they're standing on his boots - allowing for a reasonable amount of walking distance across the furred part of the boot, to his armoured ankle.

Should we refer to this list for the other things Thor does before assigning spells?

I count 41 instances of bardic music use. I'm not sure how granular you want to be with this. For instance 890 uses the Song of Freedom ability, which is a type of bardic music ability. In most cases, its impossible to know if he's using Inspire Courage, Inspire Greatness, or Inspire Heroics during combat (if, indeed he can Inspire Heroics). The instances of Inspire Competence should be easier to spot, such as 4 and 880. 238 is probably the only time he uses Fascinate (and Suggestion), and I don't think he's ever used Countersong. 890 is the only Song of Freedom. Anyway, hope that list is helpful.

Great list! I'll make sure our list matches up.

[hamishspence]

Should we refer to this list for the other things Thor does before assigning spells?

Seems like a good starting point. In some cases the divine ability may be duplicating an existing spell. For example, if it turns out there's none that correspond exactly to the ability to fly, then Alter Reality may be duplicating the fly spell instead (it can duplicate any 0-9th level spell).

Though there is one that grants flight - Divine Air Mastery - so it could be either of those.

[TheWombatOfDoom]

Seems like a good starting point. In some cases the divine ability may be duplicating an existing spell. For example, if it turns out there's none that correspond exactly to the ability to fly, then Alter Reality may be duplicating the fly spell instead (it can duplicate any 0-9th level spell).

Though there is one that grants flight - Divine Air Mastery - so it could be either of those.

It could also be free movement, couldn't it? I'd say divine air mastery seems more appropriate, but I'd love some assistance in deciding these actions. Also -

Strip 7
Unknown - Heathen Smiting?
Unknown - Heat Blisters of Eternal Pain?
Unknown - Colon Tumor Smite?

Strip 1135
Alter Self (Deity)

Strip 1137
Unknown Ability - Fly?

Strip 1138
Unknown Ability - Fly?

Strip 1138
Unknown Ability - Fly?
Unknown Ability - Plane Shift?
Unknown Spell - Barrier?

Strip 1140
Unknown - Colon Tumor Smite (mention)

Strip 1141
Unknown Ability - Silent Image?

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Proposal to move MitD - "Escape", exhibited in 661, be moved to Magic Abilities.

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Bardic Song list- I'm seeing a lot of instances where its not clear if Bardic Song is active or not. With spells, generally we go by the evidence of casting by the aura around the hands, or effect of the spell. I'm thinking we should do something similar here - The green/colored musical notes around the lyrics. However, you guys could disagree, so what do you think? Below are all the instances listed in the wiki, not all of which I agree with, but could possibly be counted.

1
2
4
6
19
34
41
50
61
109
125
180
181
198
200
201
217
238
262
348
421
445
454
472
556
593
/605 (not finding any bardic song)
610
684
692
837
851
852
867
880
918
932
935
1061
1105
1118

[hamishspence]

Unknown Ability - Plane Shift?

Deities of Lesser rank or higher can plane-shift at will:

http://www.d20srd.org/srd/divine/div...ers.htm#travel
Travel
A deity of rank 1 or higher can use greater teleport as a spell-like ability at will, as the spell cast by a 20th-level character, except that the deity can transport only itself and up to 100 pounds of objects per divine rank. A deity of rank 6 or higher also can use plane shift as a spell-like ability at will, as the spell cast by a 20th-level character, except that the deity can only transport itself and up to 100 pounds of objects.

but they can't take people with them when using that divine ability - only objects.

It may be something more like the Gate spell or the Plane shift spell.

[D.One]

Updating spells (not abilities, etc) until 1150:

1148-1149:

Resurrection

1149:

Flame Strike

1150:

Raise Dead
Protection from Fire