World of Warcraft XVI: Wibbly Wobbly Timey Wimey Orcy Worcey...Stuff

[mistformsquirrl]

Oh nice <o.o>; I guess I got the wrong impression due to where the Battered Hilt is acquired. Excellent.

[Karoht]

Oh nice <o.o>; I guess I got the wrong impression due to where the Battered Hilt is acquired. Excellent.

And even where it is acquired doesn't even require you to kill a boss.

On Heroic-Go in, kill trash until you get to the first boss. Don't kill first boss. Kill trash until you get to second boss. Don't kill second boss. Return to exit. Exit dungeon, hit 'reset all instances' go in again. As long as you don't kill a boss you don't get saved.

On Normal-You can full clear Pit of Saron, then exit the dungeon (via running back, don't take the portal). Exit dungeon, hit 'reset all instances' go in again. You can kill bosses but they don't actually have a better drop chance for the Hilt. As far as trash goes, after the second boss your chances of finding a Hilt will quickly decrease.

WARNING: You can only do this a certain number of times per hour before it will say that you have spawned too many instances, at which point you will be unable to enter ANY instaces, not even LFR. This status will go away in about 20-30 minutes, depending on how fast you moved and how many you made before you got the message. So either make it the last thing you do before logging off, or don't anticipate doing any other instance based content for 30-minutes to an hour.

Also, I think you can get Battered Hilt to drop from Northrend trash mobs as well, particularly around the... I want to say Shadow Forges? Or something like that. But, they may have changed that a while back. Check the wowhead.com entry for Battered Hilt for further details.

[mistformsquirrl]

Thanks Karoht, that's very useful info for me!

[Icewraith]

I'm not sure how nasty any cc or damage the mobs in those instances will do, but you should have something like 20 or 30x the health a tank at the time would have had, and dks have great self healing.

Also, mobs in instances don't reset. Pull everything if you can, find somewhere to hide behind to los the casters, aoe it all down, and loot if possible. Clear out your bags first. If nothing else you should be making quite a bit of gold off of grays, cloth, and green trash drops.

One more thing- it may be faster to just hearth out and fly back instead of running back out, depending on the closest place you can set your hearthstone.

[ryuplaneswalker]

Since it has been brought up, I just want to reminisce that..Quel'delar, Might of the Faithful was my first epic weapon.

[The_Jackal]

That was an awesome weapon, I had one too. Though my FIRST Epic Weapon was The Unstoppable Force. Man, I had some fun rampaging through battlegrounds with that evil pighammer.

[Krazzman]

No time to play yesterday.

About Quel'Delar... I saw the battered hilt drop twice. Both times someone got it that was already on that quest.

We tried to farm it once in a group... went in an killed every thrashpack in Pit of Saron before we would engage the First Boss then go out again.

@Professions:
The Warlock has Alchemy and Tailoring for now. A Guildmate gave me 6 netherweave bags (16slots) being Revered for Orcs and Trolls gives me another two 16slot bags.
I have 200 Gold on the Warlock now.

@Raid:
avoid organizes it's Raid via ingame calendar invites... apparently the invites for next ID are gone for both Krazzman and Yuvati (according to battle.net) and we declined for the ID after that.
The time with them definitly seems over and I'll ask my wife if we transport our chars to Dethecus (a PvP Server) now.

@Goldmaking:
So far the AH brought me around 130 Gold on Dethecus. Solely through selling woolcloth for ~40 gold (and being lucky with a blingtron that gave me a Gemstone I could sell for 70 Gold).

[mistformsquirrl]

Hrm, well - I started doing dailies for the Netherwing today, because until I can get my ideal mount*, a Netherwing Drake would be pretty darn nice. (I'm really tired of my Imperial Quillen. It serves me well, but it just doesn't suit this character at all.)

It's very easy stuff, but I'm too lazy to spend a lot of time hunting the eggs down (If I find them, great, if not, meh), so it'll be a couple weeks before I can get Exalted with them I think. Worth it though, and it doesn't even take long, so that's nice.

Also figured out what armor I want - Conquerer's Dark Runed Battlegear Will be awhile before I can even make my attempt; but from what I've read it's definitely possible to get it. The hard part is getting the best bit... the shoulders.

*edit* I'm an idiot and must have gotten sidetracked into a seperate article, they're from Yogg-Saron not Thorim. <. .> I am dumb.

So that armor, + Quel'delar and riding an Onyx Netherdrake < ._.> I will feel stylish.

Also very much looking forward to building a Garrison come WoD. It sounds like it's rolling a lot of my favorite features from several other games into one, which is pretty cool < ._.>

*After much looking on WoWhead, I decided that someday, I'm going to try to get Invincible from the Lich King. I know it won't be anytime soon however - first I have to get enough power to actually beat him, which probably won't be soon, and then it's a very low drop chance... Worth it though. It has to be one of the two coolest looking mounts in the game for a Death Knight imo (Which makes sense given the source heh) <. .>

[The_Jackal]

@Goldmaking:
So far the AH brought me around 130 Gold on Dethecus. Solely through selling woolcloth for ~40 gold (and being lucky with a blingtron that gave me a Gemstone I could sell for 70 Gold).

This is exactly the thing I'm on about when I say that gold is a waste product of having fun.

When you're max level, do Tillers' dailies to unlock all your Sunsong Ranch plots and crops. That's probably your single best source of easy money. Then head out to Timeless Isle and do the intro loop, then Path of the Mistwalker and A Timeless Question every day. The quests are fast and easy, and doing them will also net you a fair chunk of BoA timeless gear in the doing. That's 75 gold, a chunk of Timeless Coins, and a bit of Shaohao rep every day.

I've already posted the link for the Riches of Pandaria guide, but another thing you can do for handy, fun cash is to finish off all the yellow quests in all the leveling zones you didn't get to. The rewards from them will include some greens to disenchant/vendor, and between 19 and 25 gold. It's quite profitable, nets you some cheevo's, and is a heck of a lot more fun than parking in the AH running scripts.

[Seerow]

I dropped 2 battered hilts when they were new, but at the time I was raiding ICC25 and had a better weapon already. I sold them both, because they were going for 25k even then, and back then 25k was a lot more than it is now. I also helped a guildy drop one during early cata because she wanted the achieve.

[Icewraith]

Old raids aren't as profitable as they once were (especially Kara), but you can still get good chunks of gold selling transmog gear from them, and they have built-in 1-2k gold drops depending on how saturated your AH is.

Of course, the transmog gear you want from the old raid quite often is the stuff that would sell the best from it, but still. No way was I going to AH my Exalted chest piece when it finally dropped.

[ryuplaneswalker]

When I was on an RP server, I transferred this month getting ready for WoD I made some good money (in terms of effort vs profit) selling runs for Twilight Drake/Black Drake runs, it is only 3Kish a week but minus the portal bit I soloed them without even thinking.

I think in DPS spec with the Juggernaught crystal from SoO I could solo it outright.

[Zherog]

So I saw this article from Blizz in my Facebook news feed today. Two different friends posted it, with totally different views of the article:

Friend 1: Blizz releases some data! Sweet, though I wish they said more.

Friend 2: Blizz confirms 90% of all WoW accounts have lapsed.


Perspective is everything, I guess.

[Psyren]

So I saw this article from Blizz in my Facebook news feed today. Two different friends posted it, with totally different views of the article:

Friend 1: Blizz releases some data! Sweet, though I wish they said more.

Friend 2: Blizz confirms 90% of all WoW accounts have lapsed.


Perspective is everything, I guess.

It's a whole lot of nothing, but it's well-illustrated nothing at least

[The Glyphstone]

It's a whole lot of nothing, but it's well-illustrated nothing at least

It's statistics, and interesting ones. Just because it doesn't disclose financial data hardly makes it 'nothing'.

The dungeon/Battleground ratio, for example...sure, it's not useful for anything, but still a nifty thing to learn.

[Karoht]

Friend 2: Blizz confirms 90% of all WoW accounts have lapsed.

Which also includes every free account ever created as well. Perspective really is everything.

Also, the total amount of lore was neat to see quantified. I'm a bit skeptical of that one, but often times we hear of lore in brief notes and tidbits rather than counting every last word of every last book.

And Richard Knaak was certainly a lot of bloat on that one.
While reading Stormrage, I would occasionally turn ahead 30 pages and see if anything different was going on, if it was the same as before, turn ahead another 30. Especially any time Malfurion was doing pretty much anything in the nightmare. I swear, the last 120-200 pages, that man photocopied the same 10 pages.

[Seerow]

I'm surprised that there are more pet battles per day than PVE and PVP instances combined. I had no idea pet battling was anywhere near that popular.

[Mutant Sheep]

I'm surprised that there are more pet battles per day than PVE and PVP instances combined. I had no idea pet battling was anywhere near that popular.

It hink it should be noted how quick pet battles are, especially compared to instances or battlegrounds. In the time it takes for 20 people to finish one game of Warsong Gulch, 20 Pet Battlers could have done half a dozen battles each.

[Seerow]

It hink it should be noted how quick pet battles are, especially compared to instances or battlegrounds. In the time it takes for 20 people to finish one game of Warsong Gulch, 20 Pet Battlers could have done half a dozen battles each.

Even so I would have guessed that there were maybe a couple thousand people who do pet battles every day. This seems to indicate my assumption there was way off.

[Karoht]

Even so I would have guessed that there were maybe a couple thousand people who do pet battles every day. This seems to indicate my assumption there was way off.

For all the hate that Poke-WoW got when they announced it, lots of people do it. Heck, there are 5 people in my guild, that is all they do all day before raid, and when they are bench-warming.

[otakuryoga]

I'm surprised that there are more pet battles per day than PVE and PVP instances combined. I had no idea pet battling was anywhere near that popular.

It hink it should be noted how quick pet battles are, especially compared to instances or battlegrounds. In the time it takes for 20 people to finish one game of Warsong Gulch, 20 Pet Battlers could have done half a dozen battles each.

also a dungeon counts as one instance...even though it is created for five people
extend that to raids....

[Karoht]

also a dungeon counts as one instance...even though it is created for five people
extend that to raids....

Extend that to PvP, which is for 10-15-20-and 40 people.
And take much longer to run.

[Seerow]

Extend that to PvP, which is for 10-15-20-and 40 people.
And take much longer to run.

Actually double that (you have 10-15-20-40 on each side).

It would have been interesting to see the breakdown of PVE for Dungeons vs Raids.

[Karoht]

Actually double that (you have 10-15-20-40 on each side).

It would have been interesting to see the breakdown of PVE for Dungeons vs Raids.

I would really be interested there, to see Dungeons, Raids (both sizes all difficulties) and Scenarios all broken down for us. Maybe even break down which LFR wings. That would be some really awesome data.

[Krazzman]

Level 62.
My wife will now switch from Healing Druid to DK Tank.

Friday we will probably raid with the guys from Dethecus. They haven't downed Immerseus HC so far and we hope that it will be a good introduction to the raid as we will be raiding in 20man mode with them in WoD. Anyone knows how Crossrealm raiding works now? Do you need to be in the same realmpool or does it work regardless of server now (only difference being the region?)?
This will only be friday and only for about 3,5 hours for now as we are still leveling DK and Warlock (druid was only a filler).

@Pet Battles... I have brought my team up to level 7. It's just not really that interesting for me atm...

EDIT:
Wife went in as Tank. Level 68. I really hate the Durnholde dungeon now. Bossfights are still over too fast to really gauge any reasonable rotation (to learn it...)
But we will probably only bring them up to 85, then level up Druid and DK then Hunter/Shaman or some other weird combination...
Still no reaction from avoid so far. Even from the people in our Battle.net friendlists.

[mistformsquirrl]

Ya know, I thought raising my Netherwing rep was going to be annoying... but honestly? This is pretty darned easy. Far better than raising my Borg reputation in STO for sure <@.@> (I still have dreams about farming for Omega Marks ><)

[Icewraith]

It's a lot easier to farm when there's not a ton of people in the zone for the daily quests, some of whom are solely farming eggs. Also I think they increased the egg spawn rate.

[Psyren]

All the old reps got accelerated IIRC, and yeah it helps when there aren't many people there.

[Icewraith]

Oh right, rep gain used to depend partially on your character level relative to the level you were expected to be when doing the quest.

In BC/Wrath doing old world reps you'd get like one point for killing a mob that granted rep when you would have gotten 7 at 60 or whatever. Really slowed things down.

[mistformsquirrl]

Ah, good good - I'm sure I'll have a lot of other reputations I need to grind eventually too. Right now I'm just trying to get a mount I like a bit more.

Now watch - I'll get this Netherwing Drake and they'll put some perfect-for-a-DK mount in the store or something lol <;_;>