Results 1 to 30 of 32
-
2014-08-09, 02:31 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Jun 2006
- Location
- Fairfield, CA
- Gender
Real-World Mythical Creatures That Aren't In MMI
I've asked a similar question before, but damned if I know where the thread's gotten to.
I'm looking for your favorite mythological beasts that don't appear in MMI: creatures like tanuki, kitsune, phoenices, thunderbirds, cyclopes, or wendigos.
Why?For the glory of satan, of course!So I can stat them up myself.
Why MMI?For the glory of satan, of course!Because of that pesky little thing called "the OGL".
Also potentially interested in your favorite monsters from prior editions that never made it into 3.x.Wiki - Q&A - FB - LIn - Tw
d20r Compilation PDF - last updated 9.11.14
d20r: Spells (I-L) - d20r: Spells (H) - d20r: Spells (G) - d20r: Spells (F) - d20r: Spells (E) - d20r: Spells (D) - d20r: Wizard class
-
2014-08-09, 02:44 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Nov 2012
- Location
- Cambridge, MA
- Gender
Re: Real-World Mythical Creatures That Aren't In MMI
The Loch Ness monster, Elvis, Sasquatch, Big Foot, uhhh.... The jackalope?
That's all I got.amazing avatar of my favorite character, Gheera, by Pesimismrocks
-
2014-08-09, 02:57 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Dec 2012
- Location
- Realm of Dreams
Re: Real-World Mythical Creatures That Aren't In MMI
Vashta narada.
More seriously, I'd like a template to use for Native American totem animals beyond, I dunno, vivacious template or...wasn't there a spirit animal template? Anyway, I'd like a two tier thing; one to represent the basic totem animal for a vision, the other to represent the iconic Brother Raven or Coyote from the myths. This could also work for certain African traditions, like Ananzi the Spider. Incorporeality isn't really a big part of the thing, but they should be able to appear/disappear from view in some fashion, to help with dramatic entrances and omen-like episodes.
Thunderbird is a good call. I wasn't a huge fan of the version from Sandstorm in the first place; it was an interesting monster, but I'm not sure it represented the creature from myth very well.
Certain fairies. Is there a brownie (house fairy) from the MM1? Can't recall, but it was in the monster books in several earlier editions. I'd also like a more interesting atomie.
High-level fey. In myths, there is often a special realm where the Fair Folk reside, and occasionally one of them comes over and claims/charms a human mate, taking them back to their homeland, never to be seen again (one of the many mythical ways to explain "disappearances"). Such a fey never really shows up in D&D; nymphs are close, but more of a Greek thing. I'm looking for something more similar to the Celtic Fair Folk.
Selkie. It got a treatment in another book, ofc, but wasn't particularly inspiring. Similarly, sirines.
A giant of the kind from Jack and the Beanstalk. They are very big, but also seem fairly simple and rather evil. Most of the biggest giants in D&D are more neutral, and have much more of the Norse jotun flavor than the more British "ogre" concept.
EDIT: Oh, right, other editions. Ahem.
Undead beast. Was from Dragonlance stuff, but a really cool idea.
Thessalmonster. Came in several flavors, and was essentially that monster that bred with all the other monsters and produced bizzare hybrids. There was a thessalhydra, thessalamera, thessaltrice.Last edited by Phelix-Mu; 2014-08-09 at 03:03 PM.
In my dreams, I am currently adruid 20/wizard 10/arcane hierophant 10/warshaper 5.Actually, after giving birth to a galaxy by splitting a black hole, level is no longer relevant.
Extended Sigbox
-
2014-08-09, 03:20 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Jun 2006
- Location
- Fairfield, CA
- Gender
Re: Real-World Mythical Creatures That Aren't In MMI
Jackalopes! Excellent call.
Also a good call on totemic beasts.Wiki - Q&A - FB - LIn - Tw
d20r Compilation PDF - last updated 9.11.14
d20r: Spells (I-L) - d20r: Spells (H) - d20r: Spells (G) - d20r: Spells (F) - d20r: Spells (E) - d20r: Spells (D) - d20r: Wizard class
-
2014-08-09, 03:35 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Dec 2012
- Location
- Realm of Dreams
Re: Real-World Mythical Creatures That Aren't In MMI
Also, tabaxi. I think they were in the 2e Monster Manual hardcover.
Grippli, though I think they were reprinted in one of the Faerun books.
I wouldn't mind a basic "place-kami" template, for non-Divine Ranks versions of gods of a specific location, a la Eastern mythology about animism/pantheism/etc. Maybe a special HD progression for the scope of landmark/place they represent, culminating in a "dragon" form of some kind that would have status equal to the normal oriental-style dragons in the Celestial Bureaucracy. I used stuff like this homebrewed for an Eastern-flavored subcontinent in one of my campaigns. Cool stuff.In my dreams, I am currently adruid 20/wizard 10/arcane hierophant 10/warshaper 5.Actually, after giving birth to a galaxy by splitting a black hole, level is no longer relevant.
Extended Sigbox
-
2014-08-09, 04:35 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Feb 2010
- Gender
Re: Real-World Mythical Creatures That Aren't In MMI
Scylla would be interesting. I mean, I tend to use it as a term for describing aquatic hydras in my games, but this is more a relic of playing Age of Mythology than anything else. Having the original giant sea monster with the heads of barking dogs around its waist would be interesting.
"If your heart is fearful throw away fear; if there is terror in it throw away terror. Take your axe in your hand and attack. He who leaves the fight unfinished is not at peace." -The Epic of Gilgamesh
-
2014-08-09, 04:51 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Aug 2013
Re: Real-World Mythical Creatures That Aren't In MMI
There was a brownie on the web article here, which unfortunately, seems to have been erased along with all the other web stuff due to 5th ed.
Phelix mentioned oriental dragons, so I'll second that. Similarly, the leviathan. For treatments on these themes, see the Sea Drake from FF and a handful of others.Tome of the Holy Grail: Draw power from legendary heroes.|The Dashing Dualist: Two weapons. One happy ending.|The Shifter: Be all that you can be.|The Professional: Mundanes, competent.|The Wuxia Fighter: Mundanes, Wacky.|The Generalist: Do literally everything.
Skill Trick Compendium|Cantrips for Days|Complete Control Revamped: Customize everything.|Bek's Book of Blissful Bewitchment: Who wants to spend their life in a musty cave?
-
2014-08-09, 05:06 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Feb 2012
Re: Real-World Mythical Creatures That Aren't In MMI
THere was an obscure greeck myth goat monster thing that crapped out exploding poop.
Pretty much every culture has evil shapeshifting animal spirits.
In japanese mythology, the Basan is a giant fire breathing chicken that lives in mountains, its caw is a very ill omen. The wanyudo is a spirit in the form of a flaming wheel with the head of a man in the center that wanders and steals souls for hell. komainu are the lion dog guardian spirits that statues were built of in front of japanese temples; and if you could stat Orochi that'd be nice, as his abilities are always up to interpretation and the official versions are odd.
-
2014-08-09, 07:00 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Aug 2013
- Location
- Shield Lands (GMT -5)
- Gender
Re: Real-World Mythical Creatures That Aren't In MMI
I'd love to see some more American folk stuff--somebody already mentioned bigfoot and jackalopes, and I'd add hodags, hidebehinds, sidehill gougers, the Jersey devil, the mothman, and wampus cats.
-
2014-08-09, 08:49 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Jun 2013
- Location
- Sweden
- Gender
Re: Real-World Mythical Creatures That Aren't In MMI
Being a Swede, having a few more nordic-style trolls and such would be nice. Also, tomtar. There's also a whole bunch of rationalisations-turned-myths in the real world, like some spirit of the mine that causes cave-ins and such if you are too loud and disturb it. (It was a ghostly white woman, IIRC.) Or things like näcken, the naked man who lures people to drown via fiddling, or vattnahästen (lit. Water Horse) who let's people ride him and then jumps into the water so they all drown.
Far too few things in D&D go with the old style of scaring 'em straight. Are you a naughty child? Too bad, Santa's jolly helper is going to kidnap you and send you to Spain. Or eat you. It depends on which one you're talking about. Walk into a forest and get lost? Whoops, you got so lost that once you return from Faerie a hundred years have passed and you age that much in an instant. Seduce a beautiful stranger? Jokes on you, it was a horrible monster that wanted to eat your soul.
The old Viking zombie things are also pretty cool; the Draugr, I think they're called?
Also, cyclopes. Of the Greek "master smith" kind.
Really, most of the stuff in the MM is either home brand or from Greek/English myths. I'm not really sure what is in there that's from outside there - there's a bit of Romanian and Germanic stuff, like vampires and whatnot, and a few "modern" pop culture thingummits like zombies (who, admittedly, are pretty Voodoo-ish in some ways).
...I don't remember, are there any limbless dragons in the MM, or at least flightless ones?
There's a whole bunch of stuff that isn't in the MMI, but a lot of it can be excused due to space constraints. Mostly. Who knows why they invented so many weird and forgettable monsters for 3E. You'd have figured that Cerberus would have gotten a place.
-
2014-08-09, 09:20 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Apr 2006
- Gender
Re: Real-World Mythical Creatures That Aren't In MMI
I agree on Draugr. They're way more than the boring zombies you see in Skyrim- they're attributed with everything from shapechanging to foresight to altering the weather.
Also, how about a good old sea serpent? I don't recall any from the Monster Manual, and that seems like a serious lack. Krakens are nice and all, but sea serpent.
Rakshasa that aren't tiger-people might be nice. I'm still not sure where the tiger thing came from but it has always kind of annoyed me. In fact, a lot of the creatures from that mythology are done pretty oddly in D&D.
Since you've already mentioned things like Kitsune and Tanuki, you might also consider something along the lines of one of the various cat creatures from the same sources- there are a few.
-
2014-08-09, 09:45 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Jul 2014
Re: Real-World Mythical Creatures That Aren't In MMI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Threads made due to my misreading of a rule: 2
One of my favorite hobbies is criticizing popular members and moderators for anything they do wrong. So nothing personal.
I know I promised to stat a lot of things, but my life got busy and, well, my life got busy. I'm not very active on the forum for now, but I will be fulfilling my promises later.
-
2014-08-09, 09:48 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Jul 2007
- Location
- Terra Australis
- Gender
Re: Real-World Mythical Creatures That Aren't In MMI
Here's a great database of user made conversion of pre 3.X monsters that didn't get official updates: Creature Catalogue
My winning competition entries: Kinvig Arrumskor | The Great Pumpkinhead | Wynfrith d'Acker
Torn-City - Massively multiplayer online browser based crime RPG
-
2014-08-09, 10:11 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Mar 2008
- Location
- NYC
- Gender
Re: Real-World Mythical Creatures That Aren't In MMI
None of the good monsters from Slavic mythology are available. Some highlights:
Zmei Gorynych: A three-headed dragon with wings of flame, who brings drought and is in the habit of kidnapping princesses for food, marriage, or general terror.
Viy: A demon with a gaze that kills people and levels buildings. His deadly eyes are concealed by massive brows that two lesser demons lift with iron pitchforks.
Gamayun, Sirin and Alkonost: Conceptually similar creatures with the bodies of birds and heads of women. Alkonosts also have human arms. Men become lost in their beautiful songs - the Sirin sings sad songs, and the Alkonost sings happy ones. The Gamayun knows all and can see the future, which it sometimes shares with those who know how to listen. It is also the bringer of storms.
Domovoy: A house spirit that can be benevolent or belligerent depending on how the residing family treats him. Possesses minor telekinetic powers to do things like braid horses' manes or pinch people, also has limited future sight and some pyrokinesis.
Kikimora: Dead or rejected children, as well as children from a union with a demon, become kikimora - malignant shapeshifters who delight in tricking humans.
Leshiy: A shapeshifting forest spirit that tries to protect its home from human influence by scaring away people or causing them to become lost. However, it also helps those who treat with it respectfully, aiding in hunts.
Vodyanoy: A water spirit that typically appears as an old man covered in seaweed. He is basically ugly Aquaman, but sometimes tries to drown people so they can entertain him in his underwater home (he also has dominion over drowned souls).
Chudo-yudo: A hydra-type, possessing many heads and many tails (which it uses to strike its foes).
Letun: A fiery snake-demon that shares vampiric traits - it seeks out recent widows and transforms into their man, fooling them into thinking he never died. At the earliest opportunity, it lures them into his bed and then drains their blood. If he spares the woman, the union sometimes bears monstrous children that result in Kikimora (see above).
Rusalka: Spirits taking the form of women who try to drown people or tickle them to death (if water is not available nearby). Sometimes said to be the souls of dead people (but most often drowned women).
Solovey: A specific character rather than a variety of monster, this is a humanoid that can level buildings and forests with the power of his whistling.
-
2014-08-09, 11:00 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- May 2007
- Location
- The Land of Cleves
- Gender
Re: Real-World Mythical Creatures That Aren't In MMI
Quoth Nousos:
THere was an obscure greeck myth goat monster thing that crapped out exploding poop.Time travels in divers paces with divers persons.
—As You Like It, III:ii:328
Chronos's Unalliterative Skillmonkey Guide
Current Homebrew: 5th edition psionics
-
2014-08-10, 12:48 AM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Feb 2012
Re: Real-World Mythical Creatures That Aren't In MMI
Yea I tried remembering the name for about 10 minutes and drew a blank, thanks.
One that I would really like to see is the tengu, but it would depend on which version of the myths you want to use. They were originaly birdlike demons of destruction and wrath, but changed over time to become humanlike like protectors of mountains and forests. Either way they had many powers like telepathy with humans, shapeshifting, a strange form of teleportation, and a myriad of things they could accomplish through sorcery such as entering dreams, along with being masters of martial arts that would probably be best represented by ToB manuevers. While in later stories they would be considered evil tricksters by human standards, they would aid and even mentor those they found worthy, and were said to have trained a few legendary samurai.
Its actually something I might attempt to stat soon.
-
2014-08-10, 12:52 AM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Nov 2012
- Location
- Cambridge, MA
- Gender
Re: Real-World Mythical Creatures That Aren't In MMI
Last edited by (Un)Inspired; 2014-08-10 at 01:07 AM.
amazing avatar of my favorite character, Gheera, by Pesimismrocks
-
2014-08-10, 01:56 AM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Jul 2007
- Location
- Terra Australis
- Gender
Re: Real-World Mythical Creatures That Aren't In MMI
I'd love to see 3.X stats for Baby Yaga...maybe an advanced Annis or Night hag with 20th level Sorcerer casting?
Last edited by Thurbane; 2014-08-10 at 02:03 AM.
My winning competition entries: Kinvig Arrumskor | The Great Pumpkinhead | Wynfrith d'Acker
Torn-City - Massively multiplayer online browser based crime RPG
-
2014-08-10, 02:08 AM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Oct 2010
- Gender
Re: Real-World Mythical Creatures That Aren't In MMI
Jabberwocky.
By the way, many of these creatures were reprinted under Pathfinder and are OGL now (if you start from their version rather than WotC's.)Plague Doctor by Crimmy
Ext. Sig (Handbooks/Creations)
-
2014-08-10, 06:36 AM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Aug 2013
- Location
- Shield Lands (GMT -5)
- Gender
-
2014-08-10, 07:05 AM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- May 2007
- Location
- The Land of Cleves
- Gender
Re: Real-World Mythical Creatures That Aren't In MMI
Quoth Thurbane:
I'd love to see 3.X stats for Baby Yaga...Time travels in divers paces with divers persons.
—As You Like It, III:ii:328
Chronos's Unalliterative Skillmonkey Guide
Current Homebrew: 5th edition psionics
-
2014-08-10, 07:10 AM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Jul 2007
- Location
- Terra Australis
- Gender
My winning competition entries: Kinvig Arrumskor | The Great Pumpkinhead | Wynfrith d'Acker
Torn-City - Massively multiplayer online browser based crime RPG
-
2014-08-10, 09:35 AM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Aug 2007
- Location
- Imagination Land
- Gender
Re: Real-World Mythical Creatures That Aren't In MMI
Am I the only one who can't believe that after all of the Monster Manuals and other supplements that included monster stats--from nearly eight years of 3rd and 3.5 Edition D&D--that we NEVER got stats for a leprechaun?
I'd also like to see how the chupacabra would turn out as a D&D monster.
-
2014-08-10, 09:38 AM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Oct 2010
- Gender
Re: Real-World Mythical Creatures That Aren't In MMI
In Golarion, Baba Yaga is one of the most powerful entities that isn't a deity around so stats will be hard to come by. She could probably take on Cthulhu.
(For comparison, one of her daughters is a Witch 20 with Mythic ranks IIRC.)
Leprechaun
ChupacabraLast edited by Psyren; 2014-08-10 at 09:40 AM.
Plague Doctor by Crimmy
Ext. Sig (Handbooks/Creations)
-
2014-08-10, 10:26 AM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Jan 2012
Re: Real-World Mythical Creatures That Aren't In MMI
My Homebrew: found here.
When you Absolutely, Positively, Gotta Drop some Huge rocks, Accept NO Substitutes
PM Me if you would like a table from my homebrew reconstructed.
Drow avatar @ myself
-
2014-08-10, 11:10 AM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Aug 2007
- Location
- Imagination Land
- Gender
Re: Real-World Mythical Creatures That Aren't In MMI
-
2014-08-10, 11:10 AM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Aug 2008
-
2014-08-10, 11:26 AM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Oct 2010
- Gender
Re: Real-World Mythical Creatures That Aren't In MMI
Plague Doctor by Crimmy
Ext. Sig (Handbooks/Creations)
-
2014-08-10, 11:35 AM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Aug 2007
- Location
- Imagination Land
- Gender
Re: Real-World Mythical Creatures That Aren't In MMI
Well I DID say it was nice, didn't I?
-
2014-08-10, 02:05 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Jun 2014
- Location
- Eastern Oklahoma
- Gender