Erfworld thread IV: In memory of King Saline

[Spojaz]

Parson is like the surgeon for Erfworld. Sizemore agrees his world needs the operation, but that doesn't mean he can handle the blood. He can't stand how effortlessly and unthinkingly Parson cuts through all the rules, the things every caster holds sacred and unquestioned.

While everyone else is thinking of how these new twists can be best used for the benefit of their faction, Sizemore only asks the question "What will remain after we are done? Is fixing the endless war worth expanding the war to places and tactics and fronts previously left peaceful?" and we still don't know what he will decide.

[Bird]

I don't think it's so much that he hates his side, it's what the side is doing. Sizemore is a conservative down to earth guy. He doesn't like change. He really is actually in a lot better shape with Parson and Company than he would be most places. From what we seen most Mancers like Sizemore are treated as being as low as dirt and just shoveled around. Sizemore can actually argue with Parson and he will listed to him.

Really had to dig for some of those, didn't you?

[HalfTangible]

Poor Sizemore. He really hates his own side doesn't he? Thing is, others sides that we know of wouldn't be that much better for him (mind you, they would still be better).

With that said, I wonder if anyone could get Sizemore to turn? Certainly not Jillian and I would like to think that Sizemore is smart enough to know what Charlie is really like (or at least have an idea of it), but Tremenis maybe?

Parson is like the surgeon for Erfworld. Sizemore agrees his world needs the operation, but that doesn't mean he can handle the blood. He can't stand how effortlessly and unthinkingly Parson cuts through all the rules, the things every caster holds sacred and unquestioned.

While everyone else is thinking of how these new twists can be best used for the benefit of their faction, Sizemore only asks the question "What will remain after we are done? Is fixing the endless war worth expanding the war to places and tactics and fronts previously left peaceful?" and we still don't know what he will decide.

I will be shocked if Sizemore doesn't turn before the end of the story. I don't know to whom yet, but it seems almost inevitable.

[super dark33]

I will be shocked if Sizemore doesn't turn before the end of the story. I don't know to whom yet, but it seems almost inevitable.

To Digdoug?

[Mobius Twist]

He might prefer to join the free and independent casters in the Magic Kingdom (if they'll have him back) than pick a faction. Even his idols like Janice seem to have ambitions he's not happy with, so being truly factionless and globally useful will probably make him happiest.

[Spojaz]

The logical choice, as well as the biggest story impact would be if he turned to Charlescomm.

Charlie loves Erfworld. He doesn't want the wars (and thus Charlie's usefulness) over. His ambitions (if not all of his methods) are normal for an Erfworld side. Charlie also has the only real chance of defeating Parson. Thus, if Sizemore decided that Parson's 'crimes against war' were not worth any potential gain, and wanted to stop the progress entirely, Charlescomm would be his only choice. It certainly wouldn't make him happy, but Sizemore is known to endure unpleasantness for what he believes in.

Later, of course, our favorite dirtamancer would find that even if Parson loses, warfare has already been changed in Erfworld forever.

[Calemyr]

I don't see Sizemore changing sides. He knows the stakes, he's not going to turn tail on them. Parson has to succeed, otherwise the incredible damage he does to world balance will be for nothing. He's not happy about what he's had to do, though even here he struggles with the fact that Parson is pushing him to make fuller and more interesting use of his specialty - which even he finds kind of exhilarating.

[HalfTangible]

I don't see Sizemore changing sides. He knows the stakes, he's not going to turn tail on them. Parson has to succeed, otherwise the incredible damage he does to world balance will be for nothing. He's not happy about what he's had to do, though even here he struggles with the fact that Parson is pushing him to make fuller and more interesting use of his specialty - which even he finds kind of exhilarating.

Sizemore knows what Janis and the Predictamancers WANT Parson to do - he could eventually decide that that's a very different thing than what's actually happening.

Sizemore's behavior over the last 3 books (especially after Spacerock) has grown more hostile, distant and bitter. Everything in Erfworld is being upheaved, and it's pretty clear he doesn't like where it's going. I don't expect him to turn any time soon, but I do think it'll happen at some point.

[Fjolnir]

Well SOMETHING happened...

[MReav]

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Remember when tri-Linking was supposed to be really dangerous?

[Spojaz]

Does anybody else see a dwagon in that constellation in the tower?

Erfworld thread 5: Not only Stuff, it's a Phenomenon.

[TechnoWarforged]

Book 3 - Page 52: I think they've just created a monster....

[Lizard Lord]

I was trying to figure out what they could have done to the tower that would cause a "Zoro" sound effect, but then I realized it was "Zord".

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Remember when tri-Linking was supposed to be really dangerous?

Eh? It was only dangerous for prolonged periods, when rushed, and when during Tri-link one of the members is addressed directly. Wizard of Oz did numerous of seances, with all of the casters being quite alive and well.

[MReav]

Eh? It was only dangerous for prolonged periods, when rushed, and when during Tri-link one of the members is addressed directly. Wizard of Oz did numerous of seances, with all of the casters being quite alive and well.

I thought he didn't do tri-linking that much. It was just that his Arkentool let him function as a Thinkamancer/Carneymancer/whatever else he's managed to pick up over the kiloturn. They established that double-linking is not nearly as serious, especially for a master.

[Spojaz]

The only dangerous part is when the link ends, properly or otherwise, there is backlash. With master class thinkamancers from the magic kingdom (see previous page) to ease the transition, there is no real danger.

[Ravenlord]

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Remember when tri-Linking was supposed to be really dangerous?

I don't see the issue. Tr-linking is still ridiculously dangerous. Parson has simply found an exploit (loads of master thinkamancers who break links for free) and he's doing what any gamer would - actively exploiting it.

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I thought he didn't do tri-linking that much. It was just that his Arkentool let him function as a Thinkamancer/Carneymancer/whatever else he's managed to pick up over the kiloturn. They established that double-linking is not nearly as serious, especially for a master.

He also had to create the Summon Perfect Warlord spell in at least two trilinks.

[Ravenlord]

Actually, talking about exploits in magic. We know that a tri-link with a carnymancer and a weirdomancer can create a scroll that can break a (seemingly arbitary) rule of magic.

Given a carnymancer and a weirdomancer willing to work for him, couldn't Parson craft a scroll of Quad-Linking? After all, it would be violating just one rule of linkup (no more than 3 casters allowed).

[Aquillion]

I don't see the issue. Tr-linking is still ridiculously dangerous. Parson has simply found an exploit (loads of master thinkamancers who break links for free) and he's doing what any gamer would - actively exploiting it.

Parson specifically mentioned it on the last page, too. He'd usually be too worried to do it, but this time they can just send them back through the portal to get unlinked.

[ti'esar]

Whoops, wrong thread.

[Lentrax]

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Spacerock, home of the Easter Island statues...

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To be honest, no one was expecting... that.

[Welf]

New comic (link is useful)

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kayyyy? My sentiment as well

[Spojaz]

Well, he had requested britches-crappingly ugly.

[Lethologica]

To be honest, no one was expecting... that.

TBH I was kinda expecting that the compromise would be a unit-shaped building without Motion, but not this specific shape.

[HandofShadows]

I wonder what it would be able to do though.

[Nemesis67]

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Well, the Easter Island statues are full bodies, with everything except the head buried. So maybe they managed to make it into a golem as Parson wanted?

[HandofShadows]

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Well, the Easter Island statues are full bodies, with everything except the head buried. So maybe they managed to make it into a golem as Parson wanted?

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I don't where you got that from, buuut no. Only in the comics are there "full bodies" under the Easter Island Statues. A very few have full bodies, most are just torso (if that).

[Killer Angel]

I don't know if it fits the "big scary golem" expected by the Tool...