Murder at the Academy

[Xihirli]

So someone contacted you saying they were the Heir Apparents and told you to kill me?
Do the Heirs have scrying powers? I think they're the only people who we are 100% sure do not have the power to tell if people are wolves or not.

So, to reiterate:
Carpe did not scry me as an assassin even though I let him scry me (I have Baner powers).
Some random person contacted Carpe and told him to have me lynched. This person claimed to be in a position wherein, if they are telling the truth, they would have no way of knowing if I was an assassin or not.
I think THAT'S the person we should be lynching here, does anyone agree?

[CarpeGuitarrem]

Didn't say it was a scry. There was process of deduction involved, and information that contradicted some claims you've made. It's possible that you have a good reason for misrepresenting those claims, but I can't see it. Maybe you're a Usurper trying to lay low, but in that case you probably should've contacted me earlier.

The chat-ring (not just one random person, as I stated before--if it was just one random person, I'd be more inclined to lynch them) has suggested that I stay mum about the means of ferreting information out, which I think is a reasonable assumption to test, just to keep cards played close to the chest and out of reach of the wolves. If you flip as town, then there's a nice bullseye painted on various folks' backs.

[Xihirli]

But I'll still be dead.

[Ramsus]

I think THAT'S the person we should be lynching here, does anyone agree?

Not even a little bit, no. For the Heirs to claim (and they would have been throwing the game not to) that requires two people to claim to Carpe. That's pretty risky for the Assassins. Not unthinkable, but Carpe says he knows the mechanical details of the reasoning behind why you're worth lynching. That means they had to actually say specific things which can likely be proven or disproven. Also he himself might be the Investigator so he possibly has the ability to gather information on those he's talking with by himself.

[Elenna]

So someone contacted you saying they were the Heir Apparents and told you to kill me?
Do the Heirs have scrying powers? I think they're the only people who we are 100% sure do not have the power to tell if people are wolves or not.

So, to reiterate:
Carpe did not scry me as an assassin even though I let him scry me (I have Baner powers).
Some random person contacted Carpe and told him to have me lynched. This person claimed to be in a position wherein, if they are telling the truth, they would have no way of knowing if I was an assassin or not.
I think THAT'S the person we should be lynching here, does anyone agree?

Not quite.

Looks like what happened is more like this:
The Heirs contacted Carpe and gave him the information they have gotten so far.
Carpe saw this info (and possibly also stuff from other players) and noted that it contradicted something you said.
Nobody else has contacted Carpe to say that they are the Heirs, so they're probably not lying.
Carpe is confirming the Heirs' info by lynching you.

Sounds like a good plan to me.

By the way, if by some chance the Heirs haven't actually contacted Carpe yet, DO IT NOW.

[CarpeGuitarrem]

But I'll still be dead.

It's true, but what seems like a solid lead is better than guessing, at this point. From my perspective as a wolf-hunter, if it's correct then we caught a wolf, if it's incorrect then we've pegged at least one wolf.

[Luizeu]

Let's see what comes out of this Xihirli

[Xihirli]

Okay, wow. This was actually going to be a ruse. My plan was to lie about who the other assassins were, but now they're sealing my fate. I had Misdirection on, if we'd worked on it I could have lived past today and maybe even used Rune Trap to get a double kill out before they killed me. I was a performer, I didn't have two schools. That's what the Masons found out, wasn't it, Carpe? I'd told you I was an Illusionist and other thing, I don't have to keep track anymore, but I wasn't. As a performer, I could fake it.

The other wolves are Duck99 and Luizea.

Xihirli.

[Ramsus]

For those of you who have yet to see this kind of tactic, the best response to Xihirli's claim of who the other assassins are is to act as if he didn't say anything. Deciding to believe he was telling the truth or that he was lying are both essentially traps.

[Vwulf DeMarcus]

We might want to at least pay attention to Xihirli's claim here though, and keep it in the back of our head. (also, is there a chance he's fake-claiming assassin? Would that make any sense? I see no reason for him to try to throw people under the bus if he ISN'T an assassin)

[Ramsus]

He's not really throwing them under the bus if one or both of those people aren't assassins. Or if the assassins think we'll assume they aren't. Or.... but also or.... or maybe....

You see where that's going? That's why I said we should just flat out ignore it. I've seen it done several times and done it before myself. There's no reason to not assume the assassins won't try and use whatever advantage they can get, even when pretending to be throwing their hands up in frustration.

Edit: I don't see why he'd be fake claiming. More importantly I don't see why we'd care about his claim over the words of a confirmed person who is also the voice of the network.

[CarpeGuitarrem]

For those of you who have yet to see this kind of tactic, the best response to Xihirli's claim of who the other assassins are is to act as if he didn't say anything. Deciding to believe he was telling the truth or that he was lying are both essentially traps.

Yeah, I'm inclined to believe this is super-wine.

[AvatarVecna]

The arguments that day started out fairly slow and tame; it seemed that nobody knew anything for sure and wasn't willing to make this first move...

That is, until CarpeGuitarrem, the recently resurrected mystery enthusiast, burst into the room. "Xihirli! Your masquerade as an innocent professor is over!" After a fairly short argument, many professors sided with CarpeGuitarrem, and Xihirli was selected for death that night. "Don't worry," they said. "If you're innocent, we'll just resurrect you tonight."

"Don't bother," came the drow's reply. "In fact, since you've made it this far, I'll give you all one last performance, free of charge." Straightening up, he cried out "Let the record show that, while I never laid a finger on Lloyd, I did in fact kill Archmage Darron Ziz personally. And I didn't act alone: yes, it was Xihirli...in the tower...with the duck!" And before anybody could move, he pulled a wand from his belt, pressed it against his temple, and triggered it. As the smoke cleared, all that was left of the drow mage was a skull and a charred robe.

A quick search of his personal quarters revealed that he had, at least partially, been telling the truth: his private journal laid out the plan to kill the archmage in great detail, although true to form, none of his co-conspirators were ever identified beyond "Partner A/B/C/D/E". With their small victory tainted by the possibility of another three (or even four) assassins hiding in their midst, the professors all returned to their bedrooms, watching their backs and jumping at shadows the whole way.

Xihirli was lynched. Xihirli was the Assassin, and was the Performer. Day Three is over; Night Three has begun. Night Three will end at 22:00 CST on Wednesday, August 5th. Sleep well...

[CarpeGuitarrem]

NOT THE DUCK

[Xihirli]

Oh, yes. The duck.

[AvatarVecna]

A high-pitched scream pierces the night before being suddenly silenced. Those professors still awake shudder at the death of their colleague, while those that slumbered are jolted awake. One of them had been waiting for it; they gave a small smile before slipping back into dreamland.

The next morning, it became apparent that Queen of Thorns had suffered some sort of accident in one of the magic labs, and her body had been blown to smithereens. A quick check of her quarters revealed that she, too, had been looking into this; remaining silent the entire time, she had watched from the shadows. Unfortunately, her vigilance in remaining unnoticed had all been for naught, as she never got a chance to share her findings.

Unnoticed by the others as they began arguing and accusing, CarpeGuitarrem looked over her notes; recalling what he could of Tolomei's notes, it became clear to them which of those three had truly known what they were doing.

Queen of Thorns is dead. She was the Investigator/Paranoid Professor and was a Necromancer. Night Three is over; Day Four has begun. Day Four will end at 22:00 CST Friday August 7th.

[Ramsus]

I guess I'll vote for Vwulf, he seems reasonably suspicious.

[CarpeGuitarrem]

So apparently us Investigators are magnets for death.

Or I could just be getting paranoid.

[Murska]

Thematthew and Elenna have been mostly on counterwagons to Xihirli this game.

[Elenna]

Wow, assassins are lucky this game. Or do they have a power that is helping them find investigators?

Thematthew and Elenna have been mostly on counterwagons to Xihirli this game.

Until yesterday I didn't see any major reason to be suspicious of Xihirli.

Actually, Murska, why didn't you vote for Xihirli yesterday?

EDIT: On the other hand, Murska provided pretty much the only argument I remember seeing against Xihirli, so on second thought I'll retract that vote.

[Thematthew]

Murska, I'm pretty sure I already explained why I was protecting Xihirli or did you not bother reading that quick topic he posted? This OMGUS obsession you seem to be having with me is really annoying and starting to be a detriment to the team so I'd appreciate it if you'd back off. You know, like I backed off during day 2 and haven't come back since...

Edit: So, apparently my phone decided to take my edit post as clicking the delete post link: I was just trying to remove my vote for Nonayer.

[CarpeGuitarrem]

I'm pointing at ThePhantom.

A: we've collated info that strongly suggests that we've got an Assassin there
B: ThePhantom's 1st place position on the Xihirli wagon actually feels pretty safe for a wolf to hide out?
C: Some pretty weak voting from TP afterwards: a random vote on Lex-Kat, followed by OMGUS on Nonayer

Nonayer, what was your reasoning earlier? About the vote on ThePhantom?

EDIT: I'm gonna be out over the weekend, gonna aim to queue up an action.

[Elenna]

I can go with that. ThePhantom, did you have any reason for voting Nonayer yesterday besides OMGUS?

[Luizeu]

I havent heard much from Duck999 on this game, though Ive seen his participation in other threads of the fórum

[ThePhantom]

I said I had a hunch and that was why I voted. I'm not very good at analysis so unless I get scries, hunches and other people's work is what I tend to go on. And on that note, I'll be going with Murska on this, Thematthew.

[Luizeu]

A: we've collated info that strongly suggests that we've got an Assassin there

If this could be disclosed in a way that wouldnt damage PRs, It would help town if we could know about it too, I guess.

[Thematthew]

Following Carpe's lead, ThePhantom.

[Luizeu]

Following Carpe's lead, ThePhantom.

Following Carpes lead, or because TP just voted on you
I smell an assassin, Thematthew

[Ramsus]

I'll join the wagon on ThePhantom. Also did Luizeu just pointlessly out himself as an assassin? Is there some other way to read that?

[Vwulf DeMarcus]

This ThePhantom wagon looks like it's going places, but I also suggest we keep an eye on Thematthew for tomorrow.