Middle Earth WW: The Two Towers

[Ramsus]

I feel like being contrary so I think we'll see none of the standard roles as well as no new ones! Somehow!

[AvatarVecna]

Isn't discussing things openly in thread like, the single most important tool the village has?

Personally I think the no lynch thing is less wolf-like and more just sloppy village play. I think I'm gonna throw a vote onto AvatarVecna for 'keeping their mouth shut' when asked to explain their voting pattern. This is liable to change if we get some justification.

Avatar is acting weird. But unless Avatar refuses to answer i'd rather not change my vote. Although i do agree with you.

Guess I have to explain for the people who don't see all my games: I have a thing I do where, every game I'm an actual player, I self-vote at least once during the game. I'm not doing that day one this time (like I did the first game), but I can almost guarantee you that I'm going to do it later. That's all I meant by it. Mind you, I don't actually want to get lynched. I just like voting for myself for the sheer novelty, hence why I do it every time I play. Xihirli on the other hand has self-voted with the direct intention of getting lynched (I assume, seeing as in that game he devil-claimed, but I suppose there could be another explanation).

EDIT: I just realized that people are asking why I was voting Sprig, and all I was thinking was "Somebody's voting for me! Note to self: don't self-vote today, or you might die". Yeah, I have no particular reason for voting for Sprig other than "I was too lazy to look at the player list and just jumped on the only existing bandwagon". If the dude before me had voted for, say, Logic, I probably would have voted for Logic and not realized how little sense that makes.

[101jir]

101jir for invoking Murska constant

I don't want to deal with the murska constant in my first game. So.. 101jir

If Murska isn't the wolf, fine. If he is, well I think we know where to look next .


edit: Visor, you left 2 votes up. One for Murska one for FC.

[Duck999]

RNG says Legato

[Zar Peter]

OK, this is a lot going on for the first day. I think that Sprig could really be something, either a mason or a wolf, and the fast bandwagon had to be derailed because it was too fast. And I don't know if this is really his first game, I think I saw him before. And he hasn't spoken so far here (agreed, the thread moved fast, I'm here the first time today, too) so I want to hear from him something at least. So long I point at Sprig for more information.

Ad Xihirli: It's not catching a wolf on day 1 which is important, it's to see who's pointed at whom later in the game that we need as information. If everyone is making a "no lynch" call on day one this day is basically lost for vote tracking. It's as lost a day as when the seer puts forward a wolf just when the day begun and all remaining player are pointing in the same direction. Agreed, a wolf might die but the day is lost.

[Murska]

I want to vote for Fleeing Coward, but I should probably try to incentivize acting contrary to the Constant. And on that note, 101jir. OMGUS!

[Luizeu]

You keep using that Word, I dont know what it means

[Duck999]

You keep using that Word, I dont know what it means

You keep using that word. I don't think you know what really means.
Which word? OMGUS?
Oh My God You Suck

[Luizeu]

Yes, that and the constant
Seems like an inSide Joke to me

EDIT: incide, with an S. Autocorrect, are you crazy?

[Duck999]

Yes, that and the constant

The constant is under "common knowledge" in Werewolf Central.
Murska Constant: Murska is always a wolf. ALWAYS.

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The Fleeing Coward thing isn't so much a constant as...

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[AvatarVecna]

Yes, that and the constant
Seems like an incide Joke to me

The inside joke is that Murska is considered such a good WW player that they should be instantly killed every game, so that we never run the risk of Murska being a wolf. Ironically, and predictably, this results in Murska never really playing, and so never really earning that reputation (other than from before the Murska constant became a thing, of course). Now, I can't remember a time when the Murska constant wasn't an assumed part of the game, even if it wasn't called that, but I haven't been around here very long, so somebody else might know of a time when Murska wasn't auto-killed day one just in case every game.

[Mythaos]

OK, this is a lot going on for the first day. I think that Sprig could really be something, either a mason or a wolf, and the fast bandwagon had to be derailed because it was too fast. And I don't know if this is really his first game, I think I saw him before. And he hasn't spoken so far here (agreed, the thread moved fast, I'm here the first time today, too) so I want to hear from him something at least. So long I point at Sprig for more information.

This seems like a lot to reason out about Sprig without them having posted. And this is what, the fourth vote on them? I don't like Zar adding a vote to the leading bandwagon "for more information".
Zar Peter

[Luizeu]

That... that may be the worst argument I've ever heard. But if you insist...

Luizeu.

To quote Homer (Simpson) : its the worst argument, you have heard so far

I think Zar Peter and Visor explained better than I did.

[ThePhantom]

(Pelican, for the first day vote.)

Erik looks over the plains of Rohan. Have things improved, since his last visit to Rohan, or have they not?

[Zar Peter]

This seems like a lot to reason out about Sprig without them having posted. And this is what, the fourth vote on them? I don't like Zar adding a vote to the leading bandwagon "for more information".
Zar Peter

I don't want to say much, only: Thank you for making me make a list on day 1. Normally I wouldn't have bothered but when I read your post I thought: That can't be right. And it isn't.

Current vote count:
3 Votes:
101jir: Maleceptor, Murska, FC

2 Votes:
AvatarVecna: Pelican, Lex-Kat
Luizeu: Elenna, Xihirli
Sprig: AvatarVecna, Zar Peter

1 Vote:
Legato Endless Duck999
Lex-Kat: thematthew
Murska: 101jir
Visor: Ramsus
Xihirli: Luizeu
Zar Peter: Mythaos
Pelican: ThePhantom

Voted irregular (voting without crossing out the former vote, don't know how it's handled) Visor at Fleeing Coward and Murska. If it's handled that the second vote counts, then Murska has 2 votes.

Not voted yet (bolded who posted in thread after the game begun but not voted):

Sprig,Nonayer, Legato, TFT, Sagenkai, Rain Dragon, Indarra, Tolomei

Edit: The sneaky ninja ThePhantom voted while I wrote this.

[Murska]

Hm. Rather be taking the Eagles, but most Western airlines have placed sanctions on all close relatives of Sauron due to whatever border skirmishes they have going on. It's annoying, no matter what I do, family keeps troubling me. And these overgrown salamanders are so poorly trained, too. Well, here's my stop.

Fauron steps off the Fell Beast, floating gently to ground level before taking a look around. Osgiliath's sure had some innovative renovation done since his last visit. Maybe he should be heading over to his brother first, but it'd be better to try and get at least some enjoyment out of the trip before that eventual disaster. Maybe go see the sights. The northwestern corner of the world had nice nature, despite their general backwardness and constant internecine warfare.

[Xihirli]

*Resists urge to point out that the mounts aren't Nazgul*
Oh. I failed.

[Murska]

Oops. My mistake. Well, guess he was flying on a ringwraith then.

[Mythaos]

I don't want to say much, only: Thank you for making me make a list on day 1. Normally I wouldn't have bothered but when I read your post I thought: That can't be right. And it isn't.

Ah, I stand corrected. I didn't realize two of them had unvoted. I'll have to look at the 101jir votes when I come back.

[Elenna]

Oops. My mistake. Well, guess he was flying on a ringwraith then.

Uh...Ringwraith is another word for Nazgul. I don't think the mounts have any specific name.
Sorry, I'm a bit obsessive.

[Murska]

Yes, that was the point. I'm riding on the shoulders of one of the wraiths.

[Indarra]

If Murska is really as good as you say, we should keep him around, if only to see him in a full game.

101jir

Sidenote; Did you call a wring wraith a salamander?

[Sangenkai]

Eep, I was in Joshua Tree most of this weekend... how much time do I have to vote?

[Zar Peter]

Eep, I was in Joshua Tree most of this weekend... how much time do I have to vote?

Normally a day is at least 48 hours so you should still have 24 hours left... if I have counted correctly.

It was a clear night. Just right to smoke a pipe and sing some old, merry shire songs. But the little gnome hadn't time for that now. Not since the butterfly had told him about Gandalfs state of affairs. Maybe the insect could find some eagles to save the wizard but if not... well, he would be the old mans last resort!

[Rain Dragon]

Eltharil rode swiftly to town, his long silvery hair trailing behind him as his horse thundered across the plains. He was late to return from his latest scouting trip by hours and hoped he hadn't missed anything of importance.

((Random vote for... /drumroll...!
Indarra! For now. Short on time atm. ))

[101jir]

Eh, just as well I guess. Things might get busy around the time college starts up again, so then I wouldn't have to pay any attention except for what curiosity demands.

[Mythaos]

101jir for invoking Murska constant

I don't want to deal with the murska constant in my first game. So.. 101jir

I want to vote for Fleeing Coward, but I should probably try to incentivize acting contrary to the Constant. And on that note, 101jir. OMGUS!

These are all fair D1 reasons for a vote. I'm going to stick with Zar for now.

[Elenna]

Wow, logic (of a sort) on D1.

Well, I don't really want to vote for Luizeu, because I'm probably going to be voting for him in Murder at the Academy. So 101jir because probability doesn't work that way.

[101jir]

Hm... people are really hesitant to lynch Murska then, huh? Fair enough. Out of curiosity, let's try a compromise. I suspect Murska, FC, and Malecepter are all wolves together (esp because FC was the first one of anyone here to start a counter-bandwagon) so let's start with Malecepter. If the reason is that Murska should be kept for his skill, and my suspicions are correct, the rest will become more apparent.

[Legato Endless]

Morgoth only ever wanted to rock out.

Yeah, but all of his 'music' was petulantly whinging about the cosmos not revolving around him.

Lex-Kat, because there are no pixies in LOTR.