Steven UnIVerse: 4shadowing

[Manga Shoggoth]

Given that there existed a cartoon whose purpose was to sell the Rubik's Cube, I'm actually curious how far back we're talking.

About 53 years. And, of course, I'm English, and so grew up with the BBC, which had a completely different ethos towards broadcasting and didn't have to make money. (To be fair, the old ITV wasn't that bad either...).

While paraphrasing classic literature. Add's a touch of class and makes it all so much better.

I really gave to get round to watching Gravity Falls. I haven't heard a bad thing about it (even the Nostalga Critic likes it...)

[DigoDragon]

About 53 years. And, of course, I'm English, and so grew up with the BBC, which had a completely different ethos towards broadcasting and didn't have to make money. (To be fair, the old ITV wasn't that bad either...).

In defense of American TV, we got some pretty awesome toys in the 80s from those cartoons. I had Transformers, GI Joe, Laser Tag, Robotix, Mask... Maybe my parent's wallets suffered a little, but my childhood was pretty entertaining.

I really gave to get round to watching Gravity Falls. I haven't heard a bad thing about it (even the Nostalga Critic likes it...)

Ditto. If I can escape the family and find a Netflix account or something to watch, I would.

[Manga Shoggoth]

In defense of American TV, we got some pretty awesome toys in the 80s from those cartoons. I had Transformers, GI Joe, Laser Tag, Robotix, Mask... Maybe my parent's wallets suffered a little, but my childhood was pretty entertaining.

In further defense of American TV, the original Tom and Jerry cartoons (which i saw exclusively on TV over here), Bugs Bunny, Droopy, The Flintstones...

I can understand Random's complaint, but there has always been good stuff around, but I think it gets hidden by the merchandising sometimes.

There's always been a lot of junk as well. 95% of everyrthing and all that... There have been a number of UK cartoons that wouldn't look out of place in a Dyson.

[Rater202]

I really gave to get round to watching Gravity Falls. I haven't heard a bad thing about it (even the Nostalga Critic likes it...)

Ditto. If I can escape the family and find a Netflix account or something to watch, I would.

Fair Warning, There are parts that will scare the hell out of you and/or make you cry.

It's a kid's show, but it's also Disney.(Also be sure to find the shorts if you can.)

[DigoDragon]

Fair Warning, There are parts that will scare the hell out of you and/or make you cry.

Cry probably, but unless it's a gross-out kind of scare like Saw or Final Destination, I don't think it'll be anything amazing in the scare department.

[LaZodiac]

Cry probably, but unless it's a gross-out kind of scare like Saw or Final Destination, I don't think it'll be anything amazing in the scare department.

PFfthahahahaahaaahahaahahahaaaaaaaaaaah.

[DigoDragon]

PFfthahahahaahaaahahaahahahaaaaaaaaaaah.

Calm down, Bill. You're not impressing anyone.

[Rater202]

Cry probably, but unless it's a gross-out kind of scare like Saw or Final Destination, I don't think it'll be anything amazing in the scare department.

Body horror. Psychological horror. Adult Fear.

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An honest to god Apocolypse caused by an honest to god Eldritch abomination.

[Lizard Lord]

I'm pretty sure something that is pretty recent are adult concepts in kids shows without talking down to the audience while or looking like a PSA. Like when Adventure Time explores the turmoil of losing a loved one to Alzheimer's or Steven Universes themes of identity and relationships that are just as relevant to adults as they are to kids.

[Manga Shoggoth]

Body horror. Psychological horror. Adult Fear.

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An honest to god Apocolypse caused by an honest to god Eldritch abomination.

Or, as I like to call it, Last Tuesday.

[Maryring]

Calm down, Bill. You're not impressing anyone.

No but seriously. There no gorn in Gravity Falls. There are a few instances of blood and wounds, but it's all rather minor. Anything really horrible is left up to implications.

[acheter]

She's beastly strong and not quite up to speed on just how fragile we are.

[Friv]

Honestly, there wasn't anything in Gravity Falls that creeped me out as much as Cat-Steven did.

Overall, it was a pretty great show. Not quite as good as Steven Universe, but what is?

[Rater202]

Honestly, there wasn't anything in Gravity Falls that creeped me out as much as Cat-Steven did.

Well, that was a pretty blatant Akira reference, so...

[DigoDragon]

Body horror. Psychological horror. Adult Fear.

Any parental fear? Cause I could get scared by parental fear.

No but seriously. There no gorn in Gravity Falls. There are a few instances of blood and wounds, but it's all rather minor. Anything really horrible is left up to implications.

Oh, blood and wounds? Nice, I like when a cartoon isn't afraid to be mature. Steven Universe does it with the fusion comparisons/implications and I applaud the show for taking it on.

Honestly, there wasn't anything in Gravity Falls that creeped me out as much as Cat-Steven did.

I never saw that episode, but I saw the one-finger version in the episode about Peri and the Shorty Squad.

[Rater202]

Any parental fear? Cause I could get scared by parental fear.

That's part of adult fear.

Adult fear is stuff like not being able to protect or provide for the people in your care, a child in your care knowingly going into dangerous situations no matter what you do to stop them, going senile in your old age, losing a loved one to madness, a freak accident or misspoken words causing you to lose someone in your family. The realization that some people just hate someone for what and who they are. The kind of stuff with no supernatural cause, no instigator, it just happens and if it happens nothing you can do will make it better.

Gravity Falls has all of that, in addition to more violent or supernatural scares.

[The Fury]

I've lived in Oregon for nearly my entire life and I must say, the way it's depicted in Gravity Falls is pretty accurate. The majestic wilderness and kitschy roadside attractions that can both turn sinister at the drop of a hat? Yeah, we got those. Weird stuff in the woods lurking just off the beaten path? Probably. Eldritch, Lovecraftian entities that wish to tear reality asunder? Umm... according to ORS 85.12 Title P, I'm not allowed to say anything further.

[Ravens_cry]

New Steven Universe out!
And it came out on my birthday too!
Pretty good episode, I'd say. Interesting the contrast between

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The Crystal Gem, and especially Pearl's attitude and behaviour when Steven was a baby and now. Damn, old Pearl was a freaking wreck. Just hurts me so much to see her like that.

[DigoDragon]

New Steven Universe out!

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The Crystal Gem, and especially Pearl's attitude and behaviour when Steven was a baby and now. Damn, old Pearl was a freaking wreck. Just hurts me so much to see her like that.

Happy birthday!

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I only saw a bit of it as I was cooking breakfast, but yeah, poor Pearl!

[Admiral Squish]

Well, that was adorable and funny and a little sad.

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I feel like the gems in this episode embody 'if all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail'. Garnet thinks Steven's a fusion, Amethyst thinks Rose is shapeshifted, and Pearl just thinks Rose is trapped in Steven.

It occurs to me... Why does nobody call Steven Steve?

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It occurs to me... Why does nobody call Steven Steve?

Why should they? His name is Steven. I know lots of Johnathans that never went by Joe, Gregories that never went by Greg, and so on.

[Keltest]

Why should they? His name is Steven. I know lots of Johnathans that never went by Joe, Gregories that never went by Greg, and so on.

I know a Steven who goes by Alex though.

[LaZodiac]

Oh mandoes this mean we're back at weekly episode time?

Anyway this episode:

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Pearl briefly considered killing a baby. I love this show. The way flashback Pearl acted and spoke...she's the level of angry and upset you never want to see a person reach.

[Flickerdart]

I know a Steven who goes by Alex though.

I knew this fella Ben, except he wanted everyone to call him Kylo, it was a whole thing.

Anyway this episode:

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Pearl briefly considered killing a baby.

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To be fair, we don't know that it would have been fatal. Normal gems can't have their gem removed because it's projecting their body, but Steven's body exists independently of his gem.

[LaZodiac]

I knew this fella Ben, except he wanted everyone to call him Kylo, it was a whole thing.

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To be fair, we don't know that it would have been fatal. Normal gems can't have their gem removed because it's projecting their body, but Steven's body exists independently of his gem.

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Everything about that scene felt like it was saying "this is the ultimate bad" to me.

[Ravens_cry]

Oh mandoes this mean we're back at weekly episode time?

Anyway this episode:

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Pearl briefly considered killing a baby. I love this show. The way flashback Pearl acted and spoke...she's the level of angry and upset you never want to see a person reach.

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She was in a very bad place. My heart just bled for her.

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Everything about that scene felt like it was saying "this is the ultimate bad" to me.

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Well, the baby would end up with a gaping hole in its stomach. That's not healthy, by any means.

Spoilers aside, I wonder: did Rose's gem change when it became Steven? Has he demonstrated any abilities Rose didn't have? Aside from walking through the forcefield on the gem ship, and fusing with humans, which are abilities from his human side rather than augmentations to the gem.

If the gem is still Rose, then if Steven died, technically she could reform from the gem.

[DigoDragon]

Why should they? His name is Steven. I know lots of Johnathans that never went by Joe, Gregories that never went by Greg, and so on.

On the flip side-- I have a friend named Terry. It is not short for Terrance.

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To be fair, we don't know that it would have been fatal. Normal gems can't have their gem removed because it's projecting their body, but Steven's body exists independently of his gem.

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I worry this might get answered in some big finale. o.o

If the gem is still Rose, then if Steven died, technically she could reform from the gem.

I'm curious how Rose figured out how to put the human/gem fusion together in the beginning.

[Rater202]

I'm curious how Rose figured out how to put the human/gem fusion together in the beginning.

Rose has a lot of powers related to life--healing tears and animating plants and the like. Maybe "creating a brand new and unique life form" is the ultimate embodiment of her powers, but conversely requires her to become part of her creation?

[Flickerdart]

I'm curious how Rose figured out how to put the human/gem fusion together in the beginning.

I can see Greg trying to explain the birds and the bees to her.