Simple RAW for Pathfinder Thread V: Golarion Strikes Back

[Psyren]

Q 232 What's the price for a broom or mop?

Q 232b Would using a broom or mop as an improvised weapon be statted as a quarterstaff?

A232: The rule of thumb for unlisted/improvised items is to find something "close enough." A broom would probably not cost more than a regular pole (5cp) - maybe 1-2 additional copper to account for the bristles/head?

A233: Yes and no; The rule is to find a reasonable match based on "size and damage potential." For one, it says nothing about special properties, so it wouldn't necessarily gain the quarterstaff's "double" or "monk" features. For two, the mophead might interfere with the damage potential, though you could argue that's already factored into the mop's -4 attack.

[Elysiume]

Q234: For things requiring 8 hours of rest (getting rid of fatigue, a wizard/sorcerer/bard regaining spells), do the 8 hours need to be consecutive? I assume they need to be held within a reasonable timeframe, but could a wizard sleep 4 hours, stand watch for 2 hours, then sleep an additional 4 hours and wake up refreshed of fatigue and ready to prepare all new spells?

[Firest Kathon]

A 234: Standing watch adds to the required amount of sleep time:

To prepare his daily spells, a wizard must first sleep for 8 hours. The wizard [...] must refrain from movement, combat, spellcasting, skill use, conversation, or any other fairly demanding physical or mental task during the rest period. If his rest is interrupted, each interruption adds 1 hour to the total amount of time he has to rest in order to clear his mind, and he must have at least 1 hour of uninterrupted rest immediately prior to preparing his spells.

So the watchstanding counts as one interruption (it requires skill checks at least), the wizard would sleep for four hors, stand watch for two hours, then needs to rest for five hours before preparing spells.

The fatigued condition simply requires 8 hours of complete rest, so interruptions would not count against it (but will of course not count as rest time), so 4 hours + 4 hours with two hours watch in between will be enough.

[Calthropstu]

A 234: Standing watch adds to the required amount of sleep time:

So the watchstanding counts as one interruption (it requires skill checks at least), the wizard would sleep for four hors, stand watch for two hours, then needs to rest for five hours before preparing spells.

The fatigued condition simply requires 8 hours of complete rest, so interruptions would not count against it (but will of course not count as rest time), so 4 hours + 4 hours with two hours watch in between will be enough.

Our group fixes that by sleeping 10 hours. 2 hour watches, 5 people in the group, the casters take 1st and last watch.

Also, "sleep" is relative as some races do not sleep such as elves.

[Firest Kathon]

Our group fixes that by sleeping 10 hours. 2 hour watches, 5 people in the group, the casters take 1st and last watch.

RAW this only works if the casters take first watch, because "[they] must have at least 1 hour of uninterrupted rest immediately prior to preparing [their] spells." Or they eat breakfast before preparing their spells .

Also, "sleep" is relative as some races do not sleep such as elves.

That is no longer the case (for elves) in Pathfinder (it was in D&D 3.5). They need the full amount of sleep just like any other core race, they are only immune to magical sleep effects.

[Calthropstu]

RAW this only works if the casters take first watch, because "[they] must have at least 1 hour of uninterrupted rest immediately prior to preparing [their] spells." Or they eat breakfast before preparing their spells .

That is no longer the case (for elves) in Pathfinder (it was in D&D 3.5). They need the full amount of sleep just like any other core race, they are only immune to magical sleep effects.

Oh, yeah. Elves sleep, but some casters do NOT (undead, outsiders and so on) So my point stands.

[Elysiume]

Q235: Are Oracles required to provide material components to spells that have M/DF?

Oracles do not need to provide a divine focus to cast spells that list divine focus (DF) as part of the components.

Some spells, such as Freedom of Movement, are V, S, M, DF. For an Oracle, it's obvious that they just provide V, S, M. For a spell like Iron Body, which is V, S, M/DF, are they still required to provide the material?

[Cieyrin]

A 235

If the Components line includes F/DF or M/DF, the arcane version of the spell has a focus component or a material component (the abbreviation before the slash) and the divine version has a divine focus component (the abbreviation after the slash).

Oracles aren't arcane, so they use after the slash. Oracles don't need to provide a divine focus, so they can ignore the entry entirely.

[Florian]

Q236: When using an item (wand, staff, scroll), who actually cast that spell? You, the item, both?
(For reference purposes: The Angelfire Adept cleric archetype has a class features that triggers on "you casting a lower level healing spell")

[Calthropstu]

Q236: When using an item (wand, staff, scroll), who actually cast that spell? You, the item, both?
(For reference purposes: The Angelfire Adept cleric archetype has a class features that triggers on "you casting a lower level healing spell")

A236: The person who cast the spell is the person who made the item. You are merely activating it. Class features, feats and other abilities do not affect or benefit from a spell from such items unless they specifically say they do.

[Cieyrin]

A 236 addendum Staves as an item class being the exception, as they specifically use the caster's CL, ability scores, and feats if better than the staff. They don't, however, use class features, unless specifically noted.
As for whether using an item is the same as casting, Calthropstu is correct, as scrolls are spell completion items, wands and staves are spell trigger items, which are distinct actions from casting spells (read scroll and activate a magic item, respectively), so neither would trigger Cleansing Flames.

[Elysiume]

Q237: Are the wind levels in Control Winds relative to the ones listed on the page, or are those just provided as a reference, and it uses the wind levels found on the environment page, not just the ones on that spell page? That is, a CL12 could, in...

A hurricane: Set the wind level anywhere from moderate (-4) to tornado (+1)
Severe wind: Set the wind level to anything: no wind (-3) to tornado (+3)
No wind: Set the wind level from no wind (+0) to windstorm (+4)

A237: Yes.

edit: I re-read the spell and I'm pretty sure that this is what it does; leaving the question here anyway.

[Florian]

@Calthropstu/Cieyrin:

Not that I don´t believe you, but is there an actual source for this? When sifting through the available material, I´m coming up with the phrasings "When you use a wand" and "When you cast a spell from a scroll" quite often. For ex. reference Cypher Magic and Cyphermage or Staff-like Wand.

A237: The spell provides just a quick reference to the wind rules found in chapter 13. And yes, you´re correct in that you can alter the wind strength in relation to that.

[Calthropstu]

@Calthropstu/Cieyrin:

Not that I don´t believe you, but is there an actual source for this? When sifting through the available material, I´m coming up with the phrasings "When you use a wand" and "When you cast a spell from a scroll" quite often. For ex. reference Cypher Magic and Cyphermage or Staff-like Wand.

A237: The spell provides just a quick reference to the wind rules found in chapter 13. And yes, you´re correct in that you can alter the wind strength in relation to that.

Spell completion and spell activation are their own separate actions. See the rules in the core rulebook for those respective actions.

[Elysiume]

Q238: How does Abundant Revelations interact with the sort of charge-based revelations, if it does at all?

Benefit: Choose one of your revelations that has a number of uses per day. You gain 1 additional use per day of that revelation.

Some have explicit uses, and are obvious:

Firestorm (Su): As a standard action, you can cause fire to erupt around you. [...] You can use this ability once per day. [...]

Now you can Firestorm 2 times!

Wintry Touch (Su): As a standard action, you can perform a melee touch attack [...] a number of times per day equal to 3 + your Charisma modifier. [...]

Now you can Wintry Touch 4 + CHA times!

Wings of Air (Su): As a swift action, you can manifest a pair of translucent, cloud-like wings [...] You can use these wings for 1 minute per day per oracle level. This duration does not need to be consecutive, but it must be spent in 1-minute increments.

Does it give you an extra minute? Does it give you an extra oracle level's worth of minutes, since technically one use could last up to your level? Does it not apply at all?

[Florian]

A238:

No. Abundant Revelation (or similar feats, items or class features) only affect variable numbers that are calculated per day. Revelations that give a total length and can be broken down into increments are not affected.

[Psyren]

Does it give you an extra minute? Does it give you an extra oracle level's worth of minutes, since technically one use could last up to your level? Does it not apply at all?

It gives you an extra minute. Basically, think of each minute as a "use" and you have the ability to burn several uses consecutively. Don't consider a block of 20 minutes to be a single use.

[Florian]

It gives you an extra minute. Basically, think of each minute as a "use" and you have the ability to burn several uses consecutively. Don't consider a block of 20 minutes to be a single use.

Disagree on that. The format of "1 minute, can be spent in 1 round increments" is just another form of saying "10 rounds/day, can be spent in a continuous way".
By your logic, what it´ d give is one additional round of use, but not another full minute.

[Psyren]

Disagree on that. The format of "1 minute, can be spent in 1 round increments" is just another form of saying "10 rounds/day, can be spent in a continuous way".
By your logic, what it´ d give is one additional round of use, but not another full minute.

You can't divide it into rounds, so no, that interpretation would not fly. It would be another minute, or nothing. I choose the former, but it is ambiguous.

[Florian]

You can't divide it into rounds, so no, that interpretation would not fly. It would be another minute, or nothing. I choose the former, but it is ambiguous.

Ok, I now see where the two of us get confused and into a pointless argument. You´re right that there´re some revelation with a format of 1 minute, add more minutes at certain levels that can be used in one-minute increments, like "Wings of Darkness". Here, it´ll actually work by giving another minute.
I was rather referencing revelations given by archetype, that work with a different format, namely giving you one minute fixed, that can be broken down into one-round increments. Here it doesn´t work.

[Psyren]

I was responding specifically to the one asked about in the question and thought you were too. I'd have to know exactly which other ones are being talked about to, well, talk about them.

[Florian]

I was responding specifically to the one asked about in the question and thought you were too. I'd have to know exactly which other ones are being talked about to, well, talk about them.

And I was responding the the phrase "worth of minutes" used in the question, as here the difference shows up.

See, all cleared up, both versions answered.

[Cieyrin]

Q 239 Is there a way to boost Touch of Serenity's DC or any of the Stunning Fist replacement outside increasing level and Wisdom?

[Psyren]

A239: Ability Focus is the only one I'm aware of. Stunning Fist unfortunately got a lot more love (e.g. Mantis Style.)

[Firechanter]

Q240: Overcoming Damage Reduction
According to the Special Abilities section, most DR can be overcome by simply having a high enough Enhancement Bonus on the weapon. E.g. +3 overcomes DR as Cold Iron or Silver etc.

My question: Does the Bane quality help in this regard?
For instance, would a +1 Feybane weapon ignore the DR/Cold Iron most Fey have, since it counts as a +3 weapon against them?
(I think it does, due to the way the Bane property is worded, just want to make sure.)

[Calthropstu]

A240: Yes, it is worded such that it acts as a +2 higher weapon against it's specific bane type. So a +1 feybane overcomes silver dr.
A +4 feybane would be able to harm epic fey.

[Cieyrin]

Q 241 If a Monk or Brawler flurries with a non-double non-light monk weapon (like a sansetsukon or double chicken saber), does she take a -4 on all attacks or -2? Two-Weapon Fighting suggests the former but base Monk suggest the latter. Brawler is less ambiguous and Unchained Monk is crystal clear, since it doesn't piggy back on anything.

[Psyren]

A241: You take the specified penalty from flurry (i.e. -2) regardless of the size or number of weapons you use in the attack sequence. This is one reason Flurry is almost always superior to TWF if you have access to it. (Another reason is being able to apply your full strength bonus to the damage with any/all of the attacks.)

[Zsaber0]

Q242 if you have a disease and then become immune to all diseases, is the disease cured or suppressed?

[Cieyrin]

A 242 It depends on how you're gaining immunity, as if it's through something like a class feature, like Divine Health or Purity of Body, then you're just cured. If there's a temporary way to get immunity, those style of effects generally just suppress the effect, like Delay Poison with poisons.

Q 243 Is a Kestros a kind of sling for purposes of Slipslinger Style?