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2017-02-02, 06:02 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Simple RAW for Pathfinder Thread V: Golarion Strikes Back
Q133 Does Fighter Armor Training apply to Tower Shields?
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2017-02-02, 06:20 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Simple RAW for Pathfinder Thread V: Golarion Strikes Back
A 132 1/day each, as that's the general text used for any of the racial spell-likes.
A 133 RAW, no. Armor Training only applies to the armor you're wearing. Tower Shield Specialists specifically do get greater reductions when using tower shields.
However, I've never seen a GM who wouldn't let you reduce the armor check penalty of a shield via Armor Training, as it's kinda silly otherwise.
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2017-02-02, 10:48 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Simple RAW for Pathfinder Thread V: Golarion Strikes Back
Q134: If a character's mount uses an ability which ends it's turn, is the mounted character's turn also ended?
For instance, a paladin is riding his mount, which makes a charge attack (With the paladin not doing so), and then activates it's swift-runner's shirt to make a move, can the paladin then still act?Baruk Khazâd! Khazâd ai-męnu!
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2017-02-02, 10:51 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Simple RAW for Pathfinder Thread V: Golarion Strikes Back
Armor Master's Handbook has a number of ways to reduce this penalty as well if it's proving troublesome.
A134: Mounts and other companions get their own turns, the only thing they share with the master is his/her initiative. Similarly, your mount getting staggered or knocked out would not restrict your own actions.Plague Doctor by Crimmy
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2017-02-03, 12:04 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Simple RAW for Pathfinder Thread V: Golarion Strikes Back
Thanks for the response Psyren.
I had not seen that in the Ultimate Intrigue, and this may well have been before that was published anyways. As for the detect magic... (actually permanent arcane sight) It ALWAYS registered magic. And all the doorways had magic in front of them... they had gotten used to it all being illusion. He had stopped asking at every door.
This got them good. If that trap hadn't gotten them, I had several more truly nasty surprises waiting for them.
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2017-02-03, 12:28 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Simple RAW for Pathfinder Thread V: Golarion Strikes Back
I don't want to belabor this here as it probably deserves its own thread, but this is more than a little unfair. The player may not have thought to ask, but his character would have noticed the change in spell school - especially since he was using Arcane Sight rather than Detect Magic, which means he would have noticed the errant abjuration aura instantly without even needing to concentrate. At a minimum you should have rolled Spellcraft on his behalf, and even had he failed, that would have told him there was an aura on the doorway that he didn't recognize - a stark contrast to the illusion auras he had already spotted that were slathered over everything.
A "gotcha" moment like this might be fun once, but were I a player at your table, I'd be sure to punish you by asking a hundred questions every time I stepped into a new square, since that is effectively what you'd be training me to do if I want my character to survive.Plague Doctor by Crimmy
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2017-02-03, 12:37 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Simple RAW for Pathfinder Thread V: Golarion Strikes Back
Fair enough... I'll start a thread on it tomorrow. I really don't feel like starting that conversation tonight.
*makes mental note* Anyways, thanks for the answers.
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2017-02-03, 02:18 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Simple RAW for Pathfinder Thread V: Golarion Strikes Back
A133 Addendum- The Tower Shield Specialist Shield Mastery feat in Armor Master's Handbook (Yes, it has the same name as the archetype) does also allow you to apply Armor Training to Tower Shields (on top of a baseline reduction of their ACP by 3)
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2017-02-03, 12:06 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Simple RAW for Pathfinder Thread V: Golarion Strikes Back
Q135: Does casting Memory Lapse or Fumbletongue count as an attack for the purpose of breaking Invisibility?
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2017-02-03, 12:38 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Simple RAW for Pathfinder Thread V: Golarion Strikes Back
A135: Those are spells that directly target foes, so yes, both would break your invisibility.
You could make a case for needing to cast Memory Lapse on an ally though, e.g. to remove an intimidation effect from them, and this would not break your invisibility. For example, an enemy minotaur causes your Psychic ally to become shaken, interfering with her emotion components - if you are nearby and invisible, you could have her forget her fear and thus be able to cast.Plague Doctor by Crimmy
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2017-02-03, 12:49 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Simple RAW for Pathfinder Thread V: Golarion Strikes Back
Okay, thank you.
To follow on from this—if you cast Memory Lapse while invisible, and thus break the spell, can you make a Hide check that same round?
This would be a situation in which the caster is motionless and already in cover, casting the spell and then trying to hide to remain undetected.
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2017-02-03, 02:40 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Simple RAW for Pathfinder Thread V: Golarion Strikes Back
A136: The regular stealth rules would apply - as long as you meet the conditions, you can try to hide. The enemy would get a check to notice you, particularly if your spell tips them off in some way (typically, verbal components.) Remember, Perception uses all 5 senses, and you have to speak in a clear voice to use a verbal component unless you're using Conceal Spellcasting, so depending on how close you are they could get a hefty bonus on their perception check. Thus, even if they can't see you clearly due to the cover, they could easily end up realizing what square you're in, and losing your invisibility would negate concealment.
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2017-02-04, 03:10 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Simple RAW for Pathfinder Thread V: Golarion Strikes Back
Q137a: If you possess both the Body Bludgeon rage power and the Hurling rage power, can you effectively throw your enemies as improvised weapons?
Q137b: Do you even need the Hurling rage power to do so if you already possess Body Bludgeon?Come post a magic item to show that not all unique items are immensely powerful tools of the gods!
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2017-02-04, 03:59 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Simple RAW for Pathfinder Thread V: Golarion Strikes Back
The relevant RAW quotes:
Originally Posted by Hurler RAWOriginally Posted by Body Bludgeon RAW
However, it does not specify the type of attack, so you can throw the opponent with Body Bludgeon alone, using the rules for throwing normal weapons. But Hurler does damage based on the fall damage, reduced by half if the object is not a hard, stiff material, which will usually be larger, so you'd deal less damage.
Overall, you may have stumbled onto a hilarious Barbarian Grappler build. Not only do you beat an enemy with another enemy, you also do so by Grappling them and then throwing them.
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2017-02-05, 02:35 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Simple RAW for Pathfinder Thread V: Golarion Strikes Back
Q138
Does Steadfast Personality feat stacks with Divine Grace?But the strong man is stronger when alone.
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2017-02-05, 03:14 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Simple RAW for Pathfinder Thread V: Golarion Strikes Back
A138: No, untyped ability bonuses from the same ability score do not stack. A good way to think about it is that untyped ability score bonuses/modifiers are now typed per the source ability modifier.
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2017-02-05, 11:28 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Simple RAW for Pathfinder Thread V: Golarion Strikes Back
Q 139 For Psionic Critical, what's the point of expending your psionic focus? You deal the same extra damage whether you maintain or expend, unless you have 2 focuses, one for each, I suppose.
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2017-02-05, 12:08 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Simple RAW for Pathfinder Thread V: Golarion Strikes Back
A139
You're reading it wrongly.
Basically, via flowchart
You score a critical
a) You don't have psionic focus. No effect
b) You have psionic focus, but decide not to expend it. +1d8 damage
c) You have psionic focus and expend it. +2d8 damage
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2017-02-05, 01:06 PM (ISO 8601)
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2017-02-05, 01:42 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Simple RAW for Pathfinder Thread V: Golarion Strikes Back
Q 140
Can you take an iterative attack before your primary (highest BAB) attack? (change the order of your attacks)
The situation: I am a level 6 fighter with quick dirty trick, a desire to disarm, and twf (just basic). If I quick dirty trick first, I can make a disarm check against a foe with penalties to their CMD. If I do that, I wouldn't mind using the lower bab attack to do a disarm (preventing counters such as duelist's opportune parry an riposte on the final third attack), leaving my final attack with my main hand for a normal attack.
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2017-02-05, 06:00 PM (ISO 8601)
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2017-02-06, 12:14 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Simple RAW for Pathfinder Thread V: Golarion Strikes Back
Q 141a
Does a rope dart count as a melee weapon (opportunity attacks ahoy) or a thrown weapon (hello, point blank shot tree)?
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Q141b
Is a rope dart a light weapon/usable with twf?
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2017-02-06, 01:39 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Simple RAW for Pathfinder Thread V: Golarion Strikes Back
A141a: It's a ranged weapon (UC 132 / UE 21) that happens to have a fixed maximum range.
A141b: You can TWF with it like any other thrown weapon. However, with nothing specifying that it is a light weapon, it would take the larger 1H penalties.Plague Doctor by Crimmy
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2017-02-06, 08:25 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Simple RAW for Pathfinder Thread V: Golarion Strikes Back
Sounds like someone wants to be a 2e Fighter. Get Returning darts like a REAL Dart-Fighter!
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2017-02-06, 10:10 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Simple RAW for Pathfinder Thread V: Golarion Strikes Back
Note that the Rope Dart's biggest advantages are (a) the rope itself, allowing one to keep throwing it without needing the Returning feature, and (b) the "monk" special quality which makes it a flurry weapon.
That last part is actually superior to TWF, since it means the dart can get an identical number of attacks to TWF (and even exceed them, with ki) but with lower penalties, lower cost, and fewer feats.Last edited by Psyren; 2017-02-06 at 10:10 AM.
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2017-02-06, 12:17 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Simple RAW for Pathfinder Thread V: Golarion Strikes Back
Q142
Is there any way to gain a Ki Pool (even a tiny one) without taking levels of any specific class?
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2017-02-06, 12:36 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Simple RAW for Pathfinder Thread V: Golarion Strikes Back
A142: There's a few:
- Specific archetypes of various classes get ki pools directly, so depending on the one you're interested in you can probably get one without multiclassing.
- Other classes/archetypes get access to Rogue Talents, one of which is "Ki Pool."
- Variant Multiclassing (either VMC Monk to get one directly, or VMC Magus + Ki Arcana to turn their arcane pool into a ki pool indirectly.)Plague Doctor by Crimmy
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