OOTS #1154 - The Discussion Thread

[Hiken]

Cue Thunderstruck by AC/DC.

[Kish]

Elan doesn't get spells from a god, regardless of Banjo's divine status (or lack thereof).

And with his Wisdom penalty, never would even if he took cleric levels. Though hey, Favored Souls provably exist in the OotS world.

[tyckspoon]

See, they'll put Minrah just a bit west of Durkon when he casts, the res, and it's JUST a couple feet over the line for the Time-Zone change. So she'll get a whole extra hour. Kidding aside, it may be simultaneously for every cleric who Doesn't have the direct and personal attention of their god who wants them to succeed on this very specific undertaking. But at least for the short term, Durkon and Minrah probably have some kind of VIP access.

Jokes aside, the rules do permit for delaying the prep time, you just have to do it at the first available opportunity instead. I think 'I was dead' is a reasonable reason to have skipped your usual prep time, so all Minrah has to do is start prepping as soon as she's not-dead.

[0z79]

We already know that Loki's fire burns hotter.

I imagine the same is true for divine lightning of Thor.

The vampires (and Xykon) may be in for a surprise.

Dude. Divine fire + divine lightning = FREAKING PLASMA.

[Spanish_Paladin]

Dude. Divine fire + divine lightning = FREAKING PLASMA.

PLASMA HAMMER!!!, hell yeah!!

[Xyril]

Elan doesn't get spells from a god, regardless of Banjo's divine status (or lack thereof).

Given the option, he'd probably take a few cleric levels simply because that would exasperate Roy the most.

[zimmerwald1915]

Given the option, he'd probably take a few cleric levels simply because that would exasperate Roy the most.

Elan does not go out of his way to annoy Roy. He genuinely believes he is bringing joy into Roy's life.

[redzimmer]

Aaah, the memories....


"This is the true name that the dwarven weaponsmith, Silverblade, gave to the weapon he intended to create for his son. Alas, his son died before the weapon was ever completed, but here it stands complete... forged from the combined magic of the original hammer with the gauntlets of ogre power and a girdle of frost giant strength. Crom Faeyr gifts its users with all the powers of the original Hammer of Thunderbolts, in addition to enormous strength and the ability to kill golems, ettins, and trolls in one blow."

Well, I'm going back to Shadows of Amn tonight.

[Peelee]

Given the option, he'd probably take a few cleric levels simply because that would exasperate Roy the most.

Doubtful .

And with his Wisdom penalty, never would even if he took cleric levels.

[NihhusHuotAliro]

Well, I'm going back to Shadows of Amn tonight.

Remember to play it on CD, no mods. Not even Unfinished Business.

If you're going back, go all the way back.

Elan does not go out of his way to annoy Roy. He genuinely believes he is bringing joy into Roy's life.

http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0772.html Elan is aware of how much he crushes Roy's spirit every day.

[bobthehero]

Is that... the hammer of Ironfist? Along with the gauntlets of Ironfist? I'm in awe. Really.

First thing that sprang to mind, the second being that it has been an awful long time since I last played the Nwn 2 OC

[Geordnet]

Soo...

Artifact, or magic item?

[goodpeople25]

Soo...

Artifact, or magic item?

Undetermined and Yes.

[The_Weirdo]

Good to see Durkon finally settling things with his past...

And with his Wisdom penalty, never would even if he took cleric levels. Though hey, Favored Souls provably exist in the OotS world.

Veldrina is one, so you can scrap that "probably".

Now go find some way to argue that she's actually a Cleric.

Soo...

Artifact, or magic item?

I'd say minor artifact.

[Aveline]

Loki Sucks! Lol! I'm totally on board with "Hammer of Loki Sucks".

One of my favorite touches of Thor: Ragnarok-- and something I don't understand why Game of Thrones hasn't done, or really any other massive-Nordic-and-or-icy-weather-land battle scene in a movie has, to my recollection-- was the use of "The Immigrant Song" for an ass-kicking battle scene.

Led Zeppelin is notoriously stringent on granting the rights to their songs.

HBO had a tough choice between Led Zeppelin and realistic CG dragons.

That's lame. I mean, it's not like they're doing all that much with them these days.

(I actually do have a certain respect for that, but come on, that's a perfect badass-fight-scene song. They know this; it's hard to believe Thor: Ragnarok is the first time it came up.)

They need to charge huge money for licensing, or Jimmy might never survive all his plagiarism lawsuits.

Actually, liches are immune to electricity.

At least Roy still has his particularly-harmful-to-undead glow-green sword.

You know, I wonder what that Azurite smith was going to recommend to counteract that.

I am curious why someone (not referring to you here) would think the secret lost to Durkon's people and told to him by the literal Thunder God would be merely an ordinary (if high end) item, not something specifically forged by/for Thor.

Also, lucky coincidence it was stored in Firmament!

Maybe there's another, more powerful artifact in a different dwarven stronghold, but Thor gave Durkon the "lite" artifact because it was closer on hand. :(

...and now I'm wondering if wearing Wraithguard to wield Sunder or Keening had the same inspirational basis. Probably not relevant though, even if Belkar were to get an artifact dagger. (I can't even pretend "but they're also of dwarven origin" amounts to much, because Elder Scrolls dwarves are elves....)

Aww, I wanted to be to one to mention Kragenac's Tools. Always nice to meet another Morrowind player though.

I think Dwemer count as dwarves, since the lore calls them dwarves and goes out of its way to explain why they're called dwarves. And the event named "Disappearance of the Dwarves". Plus they lived inside mountains and engaged in heavy industry.

[Ruck]

Veldrina is one, so you can scrap that "probably".

Kish wrote "provably," not probably.

They need to charge huge money for licensing, or Jimmy might never survive all his plagiarism lawsuits.

Hah. I concede the point.

[Rogar Demonblud]

Also, lucky coincidence it was stored in Firmament!

Not really, it used to be the capitol.

[Lordchoculla]

New comic is up.

Marvellous! Durkon, Lord of Destruction... wonder if Belkar will be jealous

[KorvinStarmast]

Though hey, Favored Souls provably exist in the OotS world.

Veldrina, IIRC.

[BriarHobbit]

Yay! I really like the design of that hammer.

[The_Weirdo]

Kish wrote "provably," not probably.

Thanks for pointing that mistake of mine out. I have egg on my face, but I'll likely pay more attention from now on, regarding one of two things I'm Lawful about.

[Ironsmith]

Marvellous! Durkon, Lord of Destruction... wonder if Belkar will be jealous

Nah, Durkon's still a mere (shod, not-so-sexy) lord of destruction. He's got a long way to go to reach Belkar's level.

[Gray the Grayte]

When did Durkon's original armor get damaged/destroyed? I cannot recall...

[Aveline]

When did Durkon's original armor get damaged/destroyed? I cannot recall...

Last panel.

[danielxcutter]

The Hammer of Loki Sucks could be a Hammer of Thunderbolts, but there are a few points against that, such as size, and the Hammer of Thunderbolts not actually having lightning-based abilities. It's entirely possible that Rich is simply hand-waving those parts, of course, or at least doing minor changes so it fits better.

Alternatively, it could be a Relic. The concept started with Complete Divine, and Magic Item Compendium has more with that. Rich could have modified a preexisting relic or made up one that'd fit OotS!Thor. It makes even more sense for Durkon to use one, as the "relic abilities" either need you to spend a divine spell slot of a certain level - or take the True Believer feat - to use. Say, a +1 holy shocking burst adamantine warhammer, that lets you cast certain electricity spells spontaneously, like runestaffs, if a Cleric of Thor spends a 5th-level spell slot or a character with 9 HD and the True Believer(Thor) feat. Something along those lines.

[Aveline]

The Hammer of Loki Sucks could be a Hammer of Thunderbolts, but there are a few points against that, such as size, and the Hammer of Thunderbolts not actually having lightning-based abilities. It's entirely possible that Rich is simply hand-waving those parts, of course, or at least doing minor changes so it fits better.

Alternatively, it could be a Relic. The concept started with Complete Divine, and Magic Item Compendium has more with that. Rich could have modified a preexisting relic or made up one that'd fit OotS!Thor. It makes even more sense for Durkon to use one, as the "relic abilities" either need you to spend a divine spell slot of a certain level - or take the True Believer feat - to use. Say, a +1 holy shocking burst adamantine warhammer, that lets you cast certain electricity spells spontaneously, like runestaffs, if a Cleric of Thor spends a 5th-level spell slot or a character with 9 HD and the True Believer(Thor) feat. Something along those lines.

Hmm. The bit about spending a divine spell slot interests me. Does a relic express quiddity? Specifically, could the Crimson Mantle express quiddity simply by using its powers?

[CriticalFailure]

Does a relic express quiddity? Specifically, could the Crimson Mantle express quiddity simply by using its powers?

What if at some point in the final conclusion the Crimson Mantle ends up getting used as a makeshift source of quiddity that would be cool

[danielxcutter]

Hmm. The bit about spending a divine spell slot interests me. Does a relic express quiddity? Specifically, could the Crimson Mantle express quiddity simply by using its powers?

I don't really know. Relics do have additional powers that are activated like that, but the concept was introduced after artifacts were. That said, since major artifacts are often created by gods - which means a side effect of using Disjunction to destroy one is drawing the ire of the deity in the first place - if such a thing was possible at all, it wouldn't even need the spell slot.

The "9th-level spell slot" sounds more like ritual costs to reduce the DC of Epic Spells, though.

[Anitar]

I am really hoping that "Hammer of Loki Sucks" is its actual name.

[danielxcutter]

I am really hoping that "Hammer of Loki Sucks" is its actual name.

Don't think I'd be surprised myself, to be frank.