The Art of War - Diplomacy All-Stars

[Abelard]

I suppose we're only going to get Fall 1904 in before the Thanksgiving break? Or maybe Winter '04 also?

[Moody the Wise]

I suppose we're only going to get Fall 1904 in before the Thanksgiving break? Or maybe Winter '04 also?

Personally, I'm hopping on a bus home in about two hours, and once I'm home I'll have limited computer access and I'll be wicked busy. But I've already sent in Fall 1904 orders, so I don't mind if that turn happens. I'll be home until Sunday night.

[Elektro]

Fall 1904 Orders



England
F yor -> lon Bounced with lon 1:2
F nao -> mao Bounced with spa/sc 1:1

France
F lvp holds
F lon holds
F eng supports F lon
A bel holds
A mun supports A hol-> kie
A hol -> kie
A ruh supports A mun
A gas -> bur
F spa/sc -> mao Bounced with nao 1:1

Germany
NMR, all units tasked to hold
F lvn holds
A den holds Dislodged from swe 2:1, no retreat possible unit destroyed

Italy
F ion -> alb Bounced 1:1 with alb, dislodged from aeg 3:1
F tun -> ion Failed because F ion -> alb failed
A tyr supports A tri Support cut by move from boh
A tri supports A vie -> bud Support cut by move from ser
A vie -> bud Bounced with bud 1:1, dislodged from gal 2:1
A ven supports A tri

Russia
A gal -> vie
A bud supports A gal -> vie
F swe -> den
F ska supports F swe -> den
F nth -> edi
F sev -> bla
A ber holds
A boh -> tyr Bounced with tyr 1:1

Turkey
A ser -> tri Bounced with ser 1:2
A alb supports A ser -> tri Support cut by move from ion
F aeg -> ion
F eas supports F aeg -> ion
F aeg supports F aeg -> ion
F rum -> bla
A bul -> ser Failed because A ser -> tri failed

Retreats: Italian F ion can retreat to adr, nap, tys, or disband

Winter 1904 Adjustments
England: eliminated
France: 2 builds
Italy: N/A
Russia: 2 builds
Turkey: 1 build

OoC: Get those adjustments and builds in as soon as you can. I know Moody and Abelard will be gone for the week, so I set the due date for next Monday. If I get the orders before then, I'll update accordingly. Happy Thanksgiving all!

Winter 1904 Adjustments are due next Monday, 26 November at 2200 EST (0300 GMT)

[Elektro]

The New York Times - January 11, 1905

The War in Europe: A Special Report

And then there were four....


1. France (11, +2): The French continued their invasions of Germany and England to successful conclusions this year. France is now the only Western European power remaining, and with its ally Italy coming under heavy attack might find itself alone against the Eastern powers.

2. Russia (10, +2): The Russians made headway on all fronts, with the capture of Denmark, Edinburgh, and Vienna. However, Sevastapol fell to the Turks. Experts are still uncertain whether this presages the breakup of the alliance or is merely a decpetion ploy to fool the other powers.

3. Turkey (8, +1): The Turks continued their push into the Med and the Balkans. They seized Sevastapol in a daring attack but the Russian presence in the Black Sea poses a serious threat to the Turkish homelands.

4. Italy (5, -1): The Italians came under severe attack from the Russians and the Turks, losing control of Vienna, and perhaps more importantly, the Ionian Sea. With the Italian forces reeling and the French unable or unwilling to provide aid, the future looks bleak for Italy.

5. Germany and Britain (0, -2 and 0, -2): 1904 marked the end of the British and German Empires. Both nation's rulers have set up governments in exile in their respective colonial possessions. Ironically, the United States government has set itself up as the protector of the British and will provide security and aid.

Saratoga Springs Odds Calculator

Uncertainty in the diplomatic framework of the remaining powers have translated into uncertainity from the bookmakers. The situation is likely to be more clear in 1906, so if you have some juicy insider information, take advantage of the improved odds!

France: 10:1
Russia: 10:1
Turkey: 20:1
Italy: 50:1

[Katonta]

Odd, I could have sworn I had already sent those orders in. *goes to check PM box* Oh, I guess I hadn't. Umm, I guess saying Oops would be an understatement, eh?

Well, I wish the rest good luck in the war, may the best star shine brightest.

[Elektro]

Winter 1904 Results



Adjustments and Retreats

England: eliminated disbands F nao, F yor
France: builds A mar, F bre
Germany: eliminated, disbands F lvn
Italy: F ion -> nap
Russia: builds A war, F stp/nc
Turkey: builds A smy

Spring 1905 Orders are due Tomorrow, Tuesday, 27 November at 2200 EST (0300 GMT)

France:

[Abelard]

Elektro, can you please review my build orders? I think that A PAR should be in MAR. Thanks.

[Elektro]

Elektro, can you please review my build orders? I think that A PAR should be in MAR. Thanks.

You are right. I've changed the map above to reflect the proper build order (A mar).

[Moody the Wise]

You are right. I've changed the map above to reflect the proper build order (A mar).

... Could you change it back? I think I liked A Par better ...

[Abelard]

... Could you change it back? I think I liked A Par better ...

Heh, there's a shocker! Let's ask Turkey which he prefers...

[Elektro]

This is your "the deadline is up so get me your orders except for Abelard and Charity who get brownie points" warning. That is all.

[Elektro]

Spring 1905 Results



France
A bel holds
F bre -> eng Failed because F eng -> nth failed
A bur -> mun Failed because A mun -> sil failed
F eng -> nth Bounced with ska 2:2
A kie holds
A ruh supports A kie
F lvp -> cly
F lon supports F eng -> nth
A mun -> sil Bounced with war 1:1
F spa/sc -> wes
A mar -> pie

Italy

F nap supports F tun -> ion
F tun -> ion Bounced with ion 2:2
A tyr supports A tri -> vie Support cut by move from boh
A tri -> vie Bounced with vie 1:1, Dislodged from ser 4:1, no retreat possible, unit destroyed
A ven -> apu Bounced with smy 1:1

Russia
F bla -> con
a ber -> kie Bounced with kie 2:2
A boh -> tyr Bounced with tyr 1:1
A bud supports A ser -> tri
A vie supports A ser -> tri
F den supports A ber -> kie
F edi supports F ska -> nth
F ska -> nth Bounced with eng 2:2
F stp/nc -> nwy
A war -> sil Bounced with mun 1:1

Turkey
A alb supports A ser -> tri
A ser -> tri
A bul -> ser
F eas convoys A smy -> apu
F ion convoys A smy -> apu
F sev -> bla
A smy -> apu Bounced with ven 1:1, convoy path: smy -> eas -> ion -> apu
F gre supports F ion

No retreating units, retreat phase skipped

Fall 1905 Orders are due Friday, 30 November at 2200 EST (0300 GMT)

[Charity]

I was under the impression that If I attacked a conveying fleet that the convoy was disrupted at that point, am I incorrect?

Cool, so long as i know.

[Elektro]

I had this question come up in my other game, so I'll just call on my trusty friends Ctrl-C and Ctrl-V.

According to the Diplomacy rulebook, the following can cause a convoy order to fail:

1. Dislodgement of the convoying unit
2. The convoy order causes a standoff -- example French F eng convoys A pic -> lon, English A lon holds

It's on page 12 if you want to read more.

[Elektro]

Fall 1905 Results



France
F cly -> edi Bounced with edi 1:1
A bel -> hol
F bre -> eng
F lon -> yor
F eng -> lon
A kie supports A mun -> ber
A pie -> ven
A mun -> ber
A bur -> mun
A ruh supports A kie
F wes -> tun

Italy
A tyr -> tri Bounced with ser 1:2, dislodged from tri 3:1, no retreat possible, unit destroyed
A ven -> rom
F tun -> tys
F nap supports F tun -> tys

Russia
F edi -> cly Bounced with cly 1:1
A boh supports A tri -> tyr
A vie supports A tri -> tyr
A ber supports A war -> sil Support cut by move from mun, dislodged from mun 2:1
A war -> sil
A bud -> gal
A con holds Dislodged from smy 2:1
F ska -> nth
F nwy supports F ska -> nth
F den supports F ska -> nth

Turkey
A alb supports A ser -> tri
A ser -> tri
F gre -> ion
F eas supports F gre -> ion
F ion -> adr
A tri -> tyr
A smy -> con
F bla supports A smy -> con

Retreats
A ber retreats to pru
F con disbands

Adjustments
France: 3 builds
Italy: 1 disband
Turkey: 1 build

Winter 1905 Adjustments are due Sunday, 2 December at 2200 EST (0300 GMT)

[Elektro]

Winter 1905 Results



France
Builds A mar
Builds A par
Builds F bre

Italy
Disbands F tys

Turkey
Builds F smy

Spring 1905 Orders are due Tuesday, 4 December at 2200 EST (0300 GMT)

[Elektro]

The New York Times - January 2, 1906

The War in Review: 1905

1. France (14, +3): The French once again have continued their winning way with the conquest of Germany and an apparent political agreement to assume control over Italian possessions. They are the undisputed leader, but are in a race against time as the "juggernaut" of Russia and Turkey bears down upon them.

2. Russia (9, -1): The Russians were forced out of Berlin and have been forced to regroup their forces. The Bear will have to see tactical successes this year if it wishes to prevent itself from becoming a vassal of the French.

2. Turkey (9, +1): The Turks continued their push into Western Europe and Italy. With their Russian allies they will look to put the French on the defensive.

3. Italy (2, -2): The Italians are only barely hanging on to life. It is unclear whether France will use them as a bulwark against the Turks or simply finish them off, but either way Italy will soon be gobbled up.

[Elektro]

Spring 1906 Results

EDIT: Includes French retreat A ven -> tus



France
A ber holds Dislodged from sil 2:1, no retreat possible, unit destroyed
F cly supports F yor -> edi
F eng -> bel
A hol supports F eng -> bel
A kie supports A ber Support cut by move from den
F lon -> nth Bounced with edi 1:2
A mar -> pie
A mun -> sil Bounced with gal 1:1
A par -> bur
A ruh -> mun Failed because A mun -> sil failed
F tun holds
A ven -> tyr Bounced with tyr 1:1, dislodged from tyr 3:1

Italy
F nap -> ion Bounced against ion 1:2
A rom supports A ven Support failed: move orders must be supported explicitly

Russia
A sil -> ber
A pru supports A sil -> ber
A gal -> sil Bounced with mun 1:1
A boh -> mun Bounced with ruh 1:1
A vie supports A tyr Support failed: move orders must be supported explicitly
F den -> kie Bounced with kie 1:1
F edi -> nth
F nth -> hel
F nwy supports F edi -> nth

Turkey
A tyr -> ven
F adr supports A tyr -> ven
A tri supports A tyr -> ven
A alb -> apu convoy path: alb -> ion -> apu
F ion convoys A alb -> ion
F eas supports F ion
F smy -> aeg
A con -> bul
F bla -> con

French A ven retreats to tus

Fall 1906 Orders are due Friday, 7 November at 2200 EST (0300 GMT)

[Elektro]

Fall 1906 Results



France
F eng -> nth
F cly -> nrg Bounced with nwy 1:1
F edi supports F eng -> nth
F lon support F eng -> nth
F bel supports f eng -> nth
A hol supports A kie Support cut by move from nth
A kie supports A mun Support cut by move from ber, dislodged from ber 3:2, no retreat possible, unit destroyed
A ruh supports A kie
A mun supports A kie Support cut by move from boh
A bur supports A mun
A pie supports A tus -> ven
A tus -> ven Bounced with ven 2:2
F tun -> ion Bounced with aeg 1:2

Italy
A rom -> apu
F nap supports A rom -> apu

Russia
A gal -> sil
A boh -> mun Bounced with mun 1:2
A vie -> tyr
A pru -> ber
A ber -> kie
F den supports A ber -> kie
F hel supports A ber -> kie
F nth -> hol Bounced with hol 1:1, dislodged from eng 4:1
F nwy -> nrg Bounced with cly 1:1

Turkey
F adr supports A ven
A ven supports A apu -> rom Support cut by move from tus
A apu -> rom Bounced with rom 1:1, dislodged from rom 2:1, no retreat possible, unit destroyed
A tri supports A vie -> tyr
A bul -> ser
F ion -> tys
F aeg -> ion
F eas supports F aeg -> ion
F con -> aeg

Fall 1906 Retreats
Russian F nth retreats to ska

Winter 1906 Adjustments
France: no change
Italy: no change
Russia: 1 build
Turkey: 2 builds

Winter 1906 Builds are due Sunday, 9 December at 2200 EST (0300 GMT)

[Moody the Wise]

Since I've got the only retreat, here it is, and we can all get on with our lives: F Nth-Ska.

[Moody the Wise]

Fall 1905 Results

yada yada yada

Winter 1904 Builds are due Sunday, 9 December at 2200 EST (0300 GMT)

Also, I'm not sure what is going on with the space-time continuum here, but it's totally Winter 1906. Probably something to do with the flux capacitor.

[Moody the Wise]

I am sad to report that by my count (and by the count of my newly-updated jDip file for this game) France has no disbands. Curious as to how this could be after he lost three centers and only had two units destroyed, I went back to the Spring 06 map. It seems as though at that point he had 14 SCs and 13 units, so the shortfall there accounts for it.

[Elektro]

Also, I'm not sure what is going on with the space-time continuum here, but it's totally Winter 1906. Probably something to do with the flux capacitor.

In my defense, I'm a retard.

I am sad to report that by my count (and by the count of my newly-updated jDip file for this game) France has no disbands. Curious as to how this could be after he lost three centers and only had two units destroyed, I went back to the Spring 06 map. It seems as though at that point he had 14 SCs and 13 units, so the shortfall there accounts for it.

You are correct. I failed to account for the loss of A ber in S1906. Both things are updated in the previous post. Thanks for checking.

[Moody the Wise]

Russian News and World Report

1. France, with 12 supply centers, is still playing the lead on the European stage. However, with the loss of two supply centers this year, France's time on the top of this chart may be limited.
2. Russia, with 10 supply centers, made a stunning and daring comeback this year, taking back Berlin and then sacrificing its North Sea position to push onward into Kiel. Although France now controls the North Sea, Russian fleets line the region and hungrily await any chance France will give them to take it back.
2. Turkey now has 10 supply centers as well. The progress of Turkey has been slow but steady for sure. Swiss watchmakers are working on a way to set their watches to the progress of Turkey. With a Turkish fleet now in the Tyrhennian Sea, could this be the end of French hegemony in the Iberian peninsula?
3. Italy, with only 2 supply centers left, represents the smallest but most resilient threat to the Russo-Ottoman alliance. Even though he is blatantly giving his supply centers to France, we really wish he'd just die.

[mdsoze]

Since my PM box is full and I don't have time to clear it out before the deadline, Turkey builds two armies, one in Con and one in Smy.

I think this should be totally unsurprising to anyone, and so I have no problem posting it in the thread. I'll be clearing out the box tomorrow morning though, so if anyone wants to do Diplomacy, feel free to send me something.

[Elektro]

Winter 1906 Results



Russia: Builds F stp/nc
Turkey: Builds A con, A smy

Spring 1907 Orders are due Tuesday, 11 December at 2200 EST (0300 GMT)

[Elektro]

Spring 1907 Results



France
F bel supports F nth
A bur -> gas
F cly -> nao
F edi -> nwg
A hol holds
F lon supports F nth
A mun -> tyr Dislodged from tyr 3:1
F nth supports F edi -> nth Support cut by move from ska
A pie supports A mun -> tyr
A ruh supports A hol
F tun -> wes
A tus -> rom

Italy
A apu supports A tus -> rom Support cut by move from ven
F nap supports A tus -> rom

Russia
A ber supports A kie
A den supports A kie
F hel supports A kie
A kie holds
F stp/nc -> bar
A tyr -> mun
A sil supports A tyr -> mun
A boh supports A tyr -> mun
F ska -> nth Bounced with nth 2:3
F nwy supports F ska -> nth

Turkey
F adr supports F eas -> ion
F aeg supports F eas ion
F eas -> ion
A con -> bul
F ion -> tys
A ser -> tri
A smy -> con
A tri -> tyr
F tys -> lyo
A ven -> apu Bounced with apu 1:1

Retreats
A mun retreats to bur

Game Information
I assumed you'd want that retreat Abelard since it's that or disband . It saves me time to do it now. Also, I'm going to shift the game to one season per week. So from the week of Dec at least January, we will have only one season. This will account for the business of the holidays and people like Moody who will have limited computer access. It will also give you all plenty of time to scheme, as 1908 will likely be the most important year in this game.


Fall 1907 Results are due Friday, 14 December at 2200 EST (0300 GMT)

[Abelard]

Ha! See, I... oh, wait, never mind, I read the map wrong.

Drat.

[Elektro]

Fall 1907 Results



France
F ebl -> eng
A bur -> mun Bounced with sil 2:2
[U]A gas -> spa[/U Bounced with lyo 1:1]
A kol -> kie Bounced with ber 1:1, dislogded from kie 2:1
F lon -> nth Failed because F nth -> nwy failed
F nao -> mao
F nth -> nwy Bounced with nwy 1:1, dislodged from nwy 3:1
F nwg supports F nth -> nwy Support cut by move from bar
A pie -> mar
rom holds
A ruh supports A bur -> mun
F wes -> tys

Italy
A apu supports A ven Support cut by move from con, dislodged from con 2:1, no retreat possible, unit destroyed
F nap -> ion Bounced against ion 1:1

Russia
F bar -> nwg Bounced against nwg 1:1
A ber -> kie
A kie -> hol
F hel supports A kie -> hol
F nwy -> nth
F den supports F nwy -> nth
F ska supports F nwy -> nth
A mun -> ruh Bounced with ruh 1:1
A boh supports A sil -> mun
A sil -> mun Bounced with bur 2:2

Turkey
F adr spports A con -> apu
F aeg convoys A con -> apu
F ion convoys A con -> apu
A bul -> ser
A con -> apu convoy path con -> aeg -> ion -> apu
F lyo -> spa/sc Bounced with gas 1:1
A tri supports A ven
A tyr -> pie
A ven supports A tyr -> pie
F tys -> tun


Retreats
French A hol can retreat to bel or disband
French F nth can retreat to yor, edi, bel, or disband

Adjustments
France: 2 disbands
Italy: N/A
Russia: 2 builds
Turkey: 1 build

Winter 1907 Builds are due Monday, 17 December at 2200 EST (0300 GMT)

Spring 1908 Moves are due Wednesday, 19 December at 2200 EST (0300 GMT)

[Elektro]

Winter 1907 Results



France: Disbands F nwg
Russia: Builds A war. 1 build was unused.
Turkey: Builds A smy

Spring 1908 Moves are due Wednesday, 19 December at 2200 EST (0300 GMT)