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[Veera]

I'm baaaack!
A lot happened, apparently. At least I got incorporated into the story. Wasn't sure how I'd manage that.
Also, I'd appreciate it if I was not portrayed playing with a piece of string. The Gremlin is a powerful undead mage, not a little creepy kitty. Just so that you guys know.

It wasn't a piece of string, it was a pair of tighty-whities. And creepy kitties are far more awesome than powerful undead mages. Powerful undead mages are a dime-a-dozen on this message board.

[Nameless]

The node tool is byznatch for lack of better words

I manage fine.

[Lyinginbedmon]

I manage fine.

And everyone else a lot of other people manages fine with InkScape, clearly there are differences in the users of the two programs.

[Nameless]

And everyone else manages fine with InkScape, clearly there are differences in the users of the two programs.

Hmmm.. I see...

Therefor... Everyone must be brainwashed by the dark arts! It all makes perfect sence!

[Ninja Chocobo]

I manage fine.

Some people 'manage fine' with MSPaint.

DOES NOT MAKE IT GOOD.

[Nameless]

Some people 'manage fine' with MSPaint.

DOES NOT MAKE IT GOOD.

Just because you don't know how to use Fireworks doesn't make it bad.

And for the recored, I have nothing against Inkscape, I just prefure Fireworks.
I've had to use vectore based programs for two years at school for GCSE Graphics, And I I simply don't think they're all that great.
I'm much happier Firworks as it's as close as I'm ever going to get to Photoshop...
Can you even add shading with Inkscape?

The only thing I like about the program, is that you get some pretty good quality colouring.

[Lyinginbedmon]

Just because you don't know how to use Fireworks doesn't make it bad.

And for the recored, I have nothing against Inkscape, I just prefure Fireworks.

You call it the "dark arts" and discourage it's usage and you have nothing against InkScape?

And I recall you couldn't use InkScape, does that mean it isn't bad?

Okay, back on topic now, anyone seen KPen lately?

[Emperor Ing]

Hmmm.. I see...

Therefor... Everyone must be brainwashed by the dark arts! It all makes perfect sence!

Care to elaborate on your blind hatred?

And for the recored, I have nothing against Inkscape,

LIAR!!!

[Nameless]

You call it the "dark arts" and discourage it's usage and you have nothing against InkScape?

And I recall you couldn't use InkScape, does that mean it isn't bad?

Okay, back on topic now, anyone seen KPen lately?

Hey hey hey, you can't just say something and then change the subject.

And it's not that I couldn't use it, I tryed for a while and then realised that I could do much more with Fireworks, so I started to use that and I'm pretty happy with what I can do with it.
And Firworks doesn't delete your work or crash all the time like Inkscape... Infacts, it's never let me down.

@Rand: It's not that I hate it, it's just that I think it's way over-rated... It's really not that great.
I mean, you can't even select the size of the page...

However, I will be fair, the one thing that really bugs me about Fireworks, Is re-sizing, It tends to Blure up when you do it... But I guess I can always use another program to do that anyway.

[Emperor Ing]

you call it the dark arts (as lying said)
claimed it the root of all evil
and REPEATEDLY celebrated when anyone claimed to have Inkscape difficulties, and attempted to persuade them to Fireworks.

"because Inkscape is not as good as Fireworks"?!?
#&$^&@&@!!

[Ninja Chocobo]

Just because you don't know how to use Fireworks doesn't make it bad.

Did I ever SAY it was bad?

And remember the time I had to show you how to Flatten the vectors?

[Nameless]

you call it the dark arts (as lying said)
claimed it the root of all evil
and REPEATEDLY celebrated when anyone claimed to have Inkscape difficulties, and attempted to persuade them to Fireworks.

"because Inkscape is not as good as Fireworks"?!?
#&$^&@&@!!

No, because it's a cheap, over-rated program, Vector program that's only good for Simple cartooning (such as Oots, simple yet unbelieveble effective) unless you are Extreamly skilled and manage to produce something realistic, which I have seen.

@Ninja: No, but you compared it to MS Paint which you said was bad, soo... yeah you did.

And to be honest, I can't remember that, but I believe you.

[Ninja Chocobo]

And Firworks doesn't delete your work or crash all the time like Inkscape... Infacts, it's never let me down.

Fireworks has crashed five times for me, compared to Inkscape's once.

I mean, you can't even select the size of the page...

Well, there are ways, but why would you want to?

However, I will be fair, the one thing that really bugs me about Fireworks, Is re-sizing, It tends to Blure up when you do it... But I guess I can always use another program to do that anyway.

Resizing and zooming are the reasons I don't like Fireworks, as well as the lack of any good vector tools, and the uselessness of the paint bucket if your lines aren't hideously pixelated.

@Rand:
Well, I hate people (nothing personal) who do better art than me; maybe it's a similar deal.

[Ninja Chocobo]

@Ninja: No, but you compared it to MS Paint which you said was bad, soo... yeah you did.

I didn't compare the two programs. I just used your argument for another example, proving it false.

On another note, I apologise for any double posting, my internets are too slow to check other posts.

[Emperor Ing]

cheap...its free. (is fireworks free?)
Overrated...there may be better programs, but it's the best free software out there. At least IMO.
Only good for cartoon images...I don't think anyone's tried to produce something realistic.

And Inkscape doesn't crash when used with Windows XP.
@ chocobo: I dont, it's just that I hate 455}{()|_35
@ nameless: both fireworks and MSpaint are pixel-based.

[Ninja Chocobo]

cheap...its free. (is fireworks free?)

It's expensive. ~$200, last I checked.

Overrated...there may be better programs, but it's the best free software out there. At least IMO.

Well, there's The GIMP and Aviary; most people use The GIMP as a Photoshoop substitute.

And Inkscape doesn't crash when used with Windows XP.

Or Vista, it seems.

[Emperor Ing]

It's expensive. ~$200, last I checked.

Oh. Okay. Thanks.

Well, there's The GIMP and Aviary; most people use The GIMP as a Photoshoop substitute.

I've beard bad things about GIMP, and I don't think i've ever heard about aviary/

Or Vista, it seems.

I have vista, and it crashes occasionally.

[Nameless]

Fireworks has crashed five times for me, compared to Inkscape's once.


Well, there are ways, but why would you want to?


Resizing and zooming are the reasons I don't like Fireworks, as well as the lack of any good vector tools, and the uselessness of the paint bucket if your lines aren't hideously pixelated.

Fireowrks has NEVER crashed for me, never let me down, ever.
If you're haveing problems with the bucket tool, then it's because you don't know how to use it properly, and if still get and uncolourd gap, then it's easily fixed.

And it's around £60 on it's own, not sure how much it is with flash and everything.
But I got the whole Macromedia package as a gift, so I payed nada.

@Rand: I've seen some realistic work on Inkscape, but you have to be very skilled, and have a lot of time.

And yes, it's pixal based... That's why I like it...

[Emperor Ing]

you're allowed to prefer pixel-based, but I prefer to resize my stuff if necessary, and I find vector based easier to manipulate. Besides, I've seen some good stuff made with MSpaint. Kurmour claims to make his avatars with paint (better graphics than anything I've ever seen ) and you got this.

[Ninja Chocobo]

Fireowrks has NEVER crashed for me, never let me down, ever.

And it's let me down five times (and that's just with the comics 'n' stuff). Your point?

If you're haveing problems with the bucket tool, then it's because you don't know how to use it properly, and if still get and uncolourd gap, then it's easily fixed.

Oh? How, exactly?

[Lyinginbedmon]

Heeeere penguin penguin penguin...

[Nameless]

you're allowed to prefer pixel-based, but I prefer to resize my stuff if necessary, and I find vector based easier to manipulate. Besides, I've seen some good stuff made with MSpaint. Kurmour claims to make his avatars with paint (better graphics than anything I've ever seen ) and you got this.

Yeah, I've seen that, it's pretty amazing.

Fear Paint... FEAR IT'S PIXALATION!





@Ninja: If let's say, you colour something with the tolerance on 255 and you still have some gaps, turn it allllllll the way down to 7, and colour over it again, that should fix it for you.

If that doesn't work (Which it should) just fill the rest manually. Take's 2 secs.

[Emperor Ing]

That's why it's no question the best thing to use for sprite comics. Hence, sprite wars.

[Nameless]

I just need to figure out th best program to re-size it to get rid of the pixalation, I wanna try practasing Oots on paint.

[Shades of Gray]

Heeeere penguin penguin penguin...

He posted on the OOTS sub-forum today.


He's using the penguin (batman villain ) as his avatar

No I'm not a stalker, I went to that thread and found his post while reading the thread. Just letting you guys know that he's still active on the forums.

[Omega]

@Rand: What did people call it other than SW?

[_Puppetmaster_]

Pixel Wars

[Veera]

To add my two cents to the paint program argument, I use Adobe Illustrator. It's powerful, easy to use once you get the hang of it, and it is the same program that the Giant uses for OotS.

[Nameless]

To add my two cents to the paint program argument, I use Adobe Illustrator. It's powerful, easy to use once you get the hang of it, and it is the same program that the Giant uses for OotS.

And it's ten times better the Inkscape...