Metal Thread V - Defenders of the Faith

[Borgh]

yeah it is pretty good

the bonus track is friggin hilarious

and now for the best news of the day

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I sent Alestorm a copy of my review of them
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THEY RESPONDED
Chrish Bowes thought i had a really cool review
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I ASKED THEM FOR AN INTERVIEW!!!!
Now I am waiting eagerly for a response

both of the bonus tracks are great, "You are a pirate" is just insane, I am a cider drinker is great too.

also, good luck for the interview!

[Zocelot]

I thought Swashbuckled was musically their second weakest song, after You Are A Pirate. It was also one of their funniest, after You Are A Pirate and Back Through Time.

I don't get the "buy a Honda" joke though.

[Moff Chumley]

Mumble mumble Sawshbuckle are cooler...

Am I doomed to disagree with everyone about everything in this thread?

[PsychedelicBard]

I personally think that Swashbuckled was weak when compared to the rest of the album.

That's really cool, grimbold. Hope you get that interview!

Am I doomed to disagree with everyone about everything in this thread?

Pun intended?

Anyway, went to a Symphony X concert yesterday. It was amazing!

[Moff Chumley]

Unintended, but perfectly appropriate.

[Faulty]

I don't quite get the Alestorm dealio myself. :< I like their second EP back when they were Battlewhatever.

[Zocelot]

Mumble mumble Sawshbuckle are cooler...

Am I doomed to disagree with everyone about everything in this thread?

I'd say that Alestorm's latest album is better than Swashbuckle, Swashbuckle's latest album is better than Alestorm's previous two, which are in turn better than Swashbuckle's other work.

It used to be that you couldn't compare them too well, since they were in different genres. However, Swashbuckle's move towards a more melodic sound has made the two bands more similar. Still, both bands will appeal to different audiences. I think Alestorm has captured a more piratey sound, although that doesn't necessarily make them better.

[Mythestopheles]

I think that Swashbuckled was intentionally what it was, it seemed to be making fun of Swashbuckle, and the non-pirate lyrics they mix in with the pirate stuff. I'll be the first to admit, I have not listened to very much Swashbuckle (I plan to fix that, though they don't seem like my bottle o' rum).

And congratulations grimbold, I hope you get that interview, your review had a lot of truth in it.

Anyone have any recommendations for epic death metal, something similar to Ex Deo perhaps?

[eyeofsaulot]

Stoner Metal fans rejoice, for Kyuss Lives!

No Josh Homme of course, but I'll be damned if that's gonna discourage me from seeing them live.

[shiram]

Stoner Metal fans rejoice, for Kyuss Lives!

No Josh Homme of course, but I'll be damned if that's gonna discourage me from seeing them live.

Yup thats pretty awesome, as they have been touring Europe for a while, and finaly they are coming over to North America.

[grimbold]

this could lead to some hurt feelings

dickinson recently said that maiden is better than metallica

personally i prefer maiden but metallica is still excellent

[Moff Chumley]

Stoner Metal fans rejoice, for Kyuss Lives!

No Josh Homme of course, but I'll be damned if that's gonna discourage me from seeing them live.

On the one hand, Homme's the sexiest man in music (and I will brook no disagreement. Seriously, I will fight you.), but without him tickets should be cheaper... I'll take it. Shame they're not coming to Northern California...

[Zocelot]

this could lead to some hurt feelings

dickinson recently said that maiden is better than metallica

personally i prefer maiden but metallica is still excellent

In my opinion, neither has done anything good in the last 20 years. However, that may only be cause I'm comparing them to their old work. I can't tell how good their new work is, but it's definitely not as good as it was in the eighties.

I can't really say which band I like better. It depends on what I'm in the mood for. To compare The Number Of The Beast and Master of Puppets, my favorite albums by each of them, Maiden are better but less consistent. Half of The Number Of The Beast is in my Top 25, and the other half is not worth listening to. Master of Puppets on the other hand has nothing approaching Hallowed Be Thy Name or Run To The Hills, but I'd put The Thing That Should Not Be in the bottom half of the album, which shows what I think about the overall quality.

I'm feeling really bored since I've got nothing to do for a couple of weeks, but at the same time really pumped because I'm listening to some good metal. It's a weird feeling, though I've had it a few times before. Anyone else ever feel like this?

Edit: Also, does it annoy anybody that in the song Death Throes of the Terrorsquid, Alestorm rhymes time with time?

[Science Officer]

... neither has done anything good in the last 20 years... ...it's definitely not as good as it was in the eighties...

I'm pretty sure there was an xkcd strip or something about still thinking the 80s were 20 years ago...


yeah... I have nothing of value to add to this discussion....

[Moff Chumley]

The 80s ended about twenty years ago, give or take a year or two. I'd say Metallica peaked in '86 with Master of Puppets, and frankly I can't stand anything of Maiden's after Number of the Beast in '82. Twenty seems entirely fair, even if we're rapidly approaching 30 for Maiden...

[Zocelot]

I'm pretty sure there was an xkcd strip or something about still thinking the 80s were 20 years ago...


yeah... I have nothing of value to add to this discussion....

It wasn't xkcd, but I'm sure I've seen a similar comic recently. I think it was about the 90s though.

Anyway, I was saying that the 80s were more than 20 years ago. I said neither band had done anything good in the last 20 years, meaning since the 80s. I also said they were good in the 80s. So, to summarize, pre 1990 they were good, post 1990 they declined.

[ex cathedra]

So, I'm currently in between bands at a Kylesa/Rwake/The Sword concert. Kylesa was absurdly good, and Running Red was the highlight of my night.

[Klose_the_Sith]

The 80s ended about twenty years ago, give or take a year or two. I'd say Metallica peaked in '86 with Master of Puppets, and frankly I can't stand anything of Maiden's after Number of the Beast in '82. Twenty seems entirely fair, even if we're rapidly approaching 30 for Maiden...

Master of Puppets as Metallica's peak? No wonder I disagree with you so much

On the other hand, I haven't actually listened to Metallica in something rapidly approaching a year. They've been scourged from my ipod to be replaced by better stuff.

Also not liking Piece of Mind, Powerslave, Somewhere in Time or Seventh Son is madness ...

[grimbold]

The 80s ended about twenty years ago, give or take a year or two. I'd say Metallica peaked in '86 with Master of Puppets, and frankly I can't stand anything of Maiden's after Number of the Beast in '82. Twenty seems entirely fair, even if we're rapidly approaching 30 for Maiden...

Well Moff, I think you are right in saying that Master of Puppets is Metallica's best album, however they still released some excellent material on And Justice For All and The Black Album

as for maiden
have you heard Dance of Death (released 2003) that is one of Maidens best albums ever! Also there live album Rock In Rio (released 2000) is pretty much the greatest live album ever.

i prefer maiden because in my opinion they have released more good albums than bad ones as opposed to metallica...

[shiram]

I would definately agree that Maiden is better than Metallica, but I've never been too fond of Metallica, always prefered Slayer and Anthrax to them.

[grimbold]

I would definately agree that Maiden is better than Metallica, but I've never been too fond of Metallica, always prefered Slayer and Anthrax to them.

this is the big 4 in order of quality for me

1, Metallica, Slayer-They are the same level really, Metallica is catchier and more rok n roll Slayer is more brutal
2. Megadeth-Dave Mustaine is the best thing about this band
3. Anthrax-For some reason they never really hit it off with me in the way that the other 3 did

[PsychedelicBard]

I liked The Final Frontier. On the other hand, anything by Metallica after the Black Album is "meh" at best.

So I'd say Maiden. Both bands' early work was very good, but Maiden has a better standing in recent times.

[shiram]

this is the big 4 in order of quality for me

1, Metallica, Slayer-They are the same level really, Metallica is catchier and more rok n roll Slayer is more brutal
2. Megadeth-Dave Mustaine is the best thing about this band
3. Anthrax-For some reason they never really hit it off with me in the way that the other 3 did

In all fairness, all of the Big 4 had bad periods of records, Metallica after the Black Album, Anthrax after getting John Bush as lead singer, Slayer after Undisputed Attitude and Megadeth after Cryptic writtings.

If I did my top 4 Big 4, it would be
Slayer, most brutal
Anthrax, most fun
Metallica, not the best at anything, but good overall
Megadeth, really never could get past Dave's voice sadly, it just annoys me.

Also I quite like the drumming of Benante and Lombardo, and that counts for alot to me. Lars Ulrich is just way less interesting a drummer.

[grimbold]

I liked The Final Frontier. On the other hand, anything by Metallica after the Black Album is "meh" at best.

So I'd say Maiden. Both bands' early work was very good, but Maiden has a better standing in recent times.

i definitely agree with you here

@Shiram I typically find Metallica more fun than Anthrax but each to his own i guess :)

[shiram]

Fun is a wide term, and it's meaning in that context is very vague.
I say as long as we enjoy metal and respect each other, it's all good!

I think If Metallica had a more competent drummer I would like them more.

[Deadly]

Just reacquired the album A Requiem for the Light by Grimoire, an Israeli metal band. I think this was their only album, and it's kinda obscure I guess. I first got it more than 10 years ago, and like so many other things from back then I somehow lost it. It's been a little hard to track down again, and when I ordered it on the internet I kinda figured they'd write in a few weeks that "sorry, we can't get this album for you after all, it's nowhere to be found", but here it is. Old memories.

Can't even find any of the songs on youtube. But then, it's not really as great as I remember it Still, nice to have it back.

On the current topic of Maiden vs Metallica, I'm in the Maiden camp myself. Never really listened to Metallica at all for some reason. Been a fan of Maiden for a long time, on the other hand.

[Killer Angel]

and frankly I can't stand anything of Maiden's after Number of the Beast in '82.

Klose already answered to you:

Also not liking Piece of Mind, Powerslave, Somewhere in Time or Seventh Son is madness ...

But that said:

as for maiden
have you heard Dance of Death (released 2003) that is one of Maidens best albums ever!

I find DoD almost boring, compared to Brave New World.

[grimbold]

I find DoD almost boring, compared to Brave New World.

oh yeah
Brave New World is one of my favorite albums, probably better than DoD however DoD has a feel that is a lot more stereotypical of maiden

[Whoracle]

Arch Enemys new album is out. It's called "Khaos Legions" and it's damn awesome!

Opinions?

Also: After the accident in April, I finally got my motorcycle repaired. YAY! Cruisin' down the Autobahn with Arch Enemy blasting is great

[Zocelot]

Arch Enemys new album is out. It's called "Khaos Legions" and it's damn awesome!

Opinions?

Also: After the accident in April, I finally got my motorcycle repaired. YAY! Cruisin' down the Autobahn with Arch Enemy blasting is great

I've been listening to it for weeks on Youtube. I think it's a pretty good album, though with a high amount of filler. I was disappointed that their cover of The Zoo is a bonus track in Japan, it's really good. Other favorites off the album were Bloodstained Cross and No Gods, No Masters. Nothing seemed particularly boring to me.