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2011-06-27, 05:38 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Habits that kill fun in a session.
Throughout my elementary and middle school years, I attended four different Catholic schools and played with/DMed for groups in each, and we only had this kind of problem player once. He hated it when the party paladin of freedom shouted "FOR KORD!" when he used Smite Evil; he hated it when there was a three-way moral debate between a PC paladin of Helm, a PC druid, and an NPC agnostic philosopher cleric; he hated it when we ran into a horde of goblinoids on a holy crusade for Maglubiyet and decided to support them against their orcish enemies. He called us all insufficiently faithful and quit after that campaign ended.
The kicker? The DM at the time was the pastor of that school's church and had been leading Masses, teaching Sunday school, and guest-lecturing in the school's religion classes for several years. How he thought calling the freakin' pastor "insufficiently faithful" made any sense is beyond me.
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2011-06-27, 05:53 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Habits that kill fun in a session.
and at long last have I met my true opposite.
I'm a highly religious person, and this leads to my insisting that no real world religion is brought into the game at all.
heck, one of the first things I tell any new players of mine are "NO (modern) real world religious things are to be brought in game.
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2011-06-27, 06:08 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Habits that kill fun in a session.
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2011-06-27, 06:12 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Habits that kill fun in a session.
Sounds to me like someone who reads chick tracts and has fallen for the dungeons and dragons issue hook line and sinker. Sounds to me like selective objections as well, since the whole, "made us in his image" thing would be upset by the existence of multiple sentient humanoid races. So we can only play as humans, and all enemies must be of animal level intellect.
"Interdum feror cupidine partium magnarum Europae vincendarum"
Translation: "Sometimes I get this urge to conquer large parts of Europe."
"If you don't get those cameras out of my face, I'm gonna go 8.6 on the Richter scale with gastric emissions that'll clear this room."
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2011-06-27, 06:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Habits that kill fun in a session.
Seconded. Luckily, the rest of my group feels the same way, and we never have to bring it up. Even out-of-game, we don't discuss our (varied and often opposite) beliefs because we know how it can start terrible, vicious arguments and we'd rather stay friends.
For the record, I am of the "quiet certainty" school of thought when it comes to God, not an evangelist, but there is at least one atheist in our group, and we've agreed that since it has no effect on the gameplay, it's irrelevant to most of our conversations. Interestingly, he plays the devout paladin quite well.Last edited by Notreallyhere77; 2011-06-27 at 06:16 PM.
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2011-06-27, 06:34 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-06-27, 06:37 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Habits that kill fun in a session.
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2011-06-27, 07:46 PM (ISO 8601)
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Senseless Violence is why I'm Here
This player only comes to the game to fight monsters, any Roleplaying is quickly left by the wayside. Most of the time he just sits back and lets the other players do the roleplaying. Other times he decides that violence is the only way to get through the prison your in, killing 5 guards while a thousand more enter the room.
Even if the DM hints that Diplomacy is the only way through a situation he will choose suicidal last stand without even thinking. By the end of the campaign he and the other combat built characters compare their kill counts.
My Way or the Highway
The DM that fails to realize most players do not utilize the charisma based stats too often. Often he will decide that the players have to do one thing in order to complete his campaign. Great examples are negotiating the release of their captain(Why not kill the kidnappers?) and paying an unfair toll to cross through the woods(Why not kill the toll keepers?).
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2011-06-27, 08:08 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Habits that kill fun in a session.
I love how the 2 of those seem to be complete opposites. Just shows that anything taken to the extreme is damn annoying.
Mr Contrary-This guy has some unquenchable need to go against everything the DM and/or the rest of the party wants to do. DM gives the party a plot hook? Must be railroading, kill the questgiver. Party wants to go hunt a dragon? Too cliche, sabotage their efforts until they give in and do what you want to do. Of course anyone else (DM or player) stops him from doing what he wants to do, he cries and screams that they just enjoy killing his fun. Bonus points if this person is over the age of 25.Last edited by Choco; 2011-06-27 at 08:08 PM.
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2011-06-27, 08:14 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-06-27, 09:41 PM (ISO 8601)
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If you find yourself watching Power Rangers and wonder how some characters got their powers and zords back for an anniversary episode, just assume they were restored off screen. They have 20+ seasons of team geniuses to call on.
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2011-06-27, 11:46 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Habits that kill fun in a session.
LOL. They'd have fun in my group... 4 of the 6 players are (or were) members of organized wiccan covens - ie, practicing witches. The other two are atheists with a good understanding of world religions. (Aside from giving some inspiration on flavors religion and magic, this has no effect on the game.)
Actually, they wouldn't have fun, because I doubt they'd want to be (or be welcomed in) in the same room.
Edit- as with Notreallyhere77's group, the group's "Paladin" - both in that he's the most morally focused, and arguably the most devoutly religious - is played by one of the atheists (me).Last edited by Seb Wiers; 2011-06-27 at 11:59 PM.
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2011-06-28, 07:19 AM (ISO 8601)
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It honestly doesn't matter what the DM thinks of the plan. Again, they're the players' characters. If that's the plan they make, even if it's an obvious TPK to the DM (but not the players), the DM's job is to narrate what happens, not stop the players from acting on their plan. The DM isn't there to be a mommy to the players and say, "No, that's stupid, don't do that." Therein lies the path to railroading.
Originally Posted by The Doctor
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2011-06-28, 08:18 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Habits that kill fun in a session.
The kind that would rather not have to tell the players "no you cannot carry out the plan you think is awesome and have spent a fortnight planning" just because it's not the way the DM wanted the game to go? It's the players' game as much as it is the DM's. Besides, they're players. There is almost no chance that the plan will go as intended, even if it does succeed (see, the whole reason we started talking about this).
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2011-06-28, 01:31 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-06-28, 01:44 PM (ISO 8601)
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I would really like to see a game made by Obryn, Kurald Galain, and Knaight from these forums.
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2011-06-28, 02:26 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Habits that kill fun in a session.
"Interdum feror cupidine partium magnarum Europae vincendarum"
Translation: "Sometimes I get this urge to conquer large parts of Europe."
"If you don't get those cameras out of my face, I'm gonna go 8.6 on the Richter scale with gastric emissions that'll clear this room."
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2011-06-28, 02:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Habits that kill fun in a session.
Last edited by archon_huskie; 2011-06-28 at 02:53 PM.
If you find yourself watching Power Rangers and wonder how some characters got their powers and zords back for an anniversary episode, just assume they were restored off screen. They have 20+ seasons of team geniuses to call on.
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2011-06-28, 03:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Habits that kill fun in a session.
If you read back, I never said there wouldn't be consequences. Just because you break WBL, doesn't mean that karma/fate/whatever you want to call it won't come around and bite you in the ass for it. All I said is if they have a plan, they should be allowed to see it through. As long as it's possible, within the rules (WBL is a guideline, not a rule), they should be allowed to try it. Karma's a bitch.
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Originally Posted by The Doctor
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2011-06-28, 05:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Habits that kill fun in a session.
I am DMing it. The money got spent on a giant flaming sword because the only person who could reasonably carry the money walked off with it before the Wizard ("rightful" owner and possessor of Spot and Listen reducing flaw(s)) could spend it or notice. This for a character whose damage output is already overkill. They came into a massive amount of money in an all Evil, all unhinged party - it was only a matter of time until one of them took the lot of it for themselves, I didn't have a lot to worry about (and the method they used both allows me massive leeway in punishing them later - it required paying lip-service to a god who doesn't like most of them - and wouldn't be available to a more conventional, cooperating party). The thief is now on high-alert as the party makes its way to completing one of their objectives under an uneasy truce, the Wizard being on a hair trigger to kill the thief (or rather, anyone he thinks may have stolen his cash, thanks to a potion of Glibness obscuring the truth rather effectively) with alliegances as yet undeclared and intra-party tension out the wazoo. I think it's going rather well, really.
One player is a bit upset, but is still psyched to catch out and kill the thief and has only themself to blame (unless they were expecting me to be unreasonable about it - they should have planned much better, and expecting me to be unreasonable is itself kind of unfair). One player is happy with his new sword, so that's fine. The rest of the party isn't any less happy and has recieved only a bit less than what they would have gotten if the plan had gone as intended instead of predictably screwing up after going into the completely unplanned area following "profit!". Overall, I'd call it a net win, and certainly not a huge loss if it is one at all. There are worse things that could have happened and I feel "it doesn't work, good job wasting two weeks" is one of them.
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2011-06-28, 06:39 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Habits that kill fun in a session.
I usually feel my own habits can kill a game session. With certain groups its alright, but right now I feel I am *That Guy*. You know the guy who gets pissed off when he doesn't get to do anything.
See I have all these stats in the Drive skill because my GM was worried that my character wouldn't have a place in the crew. Also because she thought that no one would take it. Ends up 2 other people took it and have a lot more in it than me. I said hey can I drive the vehicle this mission and immediately rolled a crit fail, which ended in a flat tire.
My only good stats are in strength and combat. Sadly my initiative is so low I have been on the bottom of the order every game. So now I am adding points into fluff charisma and knowledge checks.
The only rolls I succeeded last session was my fix vehicle check(for a flat tire so it was a low DC), and seducing two prostitutes at the bar, which I did out of boredom, my character did it to help himself feel better; in character he is torn up because he might have helped destroy a planet and is a sad drunk because of it.
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2011-06-28, 06:45 PM (ISO 8601)
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Crit fail on a skill check? I despise that houserule.
Originally Posted by The Doctor
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2011-06-28, 07:22 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Habits that kill fun in a session.
NOW COMPLETE: Let's Play Starcraft II Trilogy:
Hell, It's About Time: Wings of Liberty
Does This Mutation Make Me Look Fat: Heart of the Swarm
My Life For Aiur? I Barely Know 'Er: Legacy of the Void
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2011-06-28, 07:25 PM (ISO 8601)
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Originally Posted by The Doctor
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2011-06-28, 07:25 PM (ISO 8601)
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NOW COMPLETE: Let's Play Starcraft II Trilogy:
Hell, It's About Time: Wings of Liberty
Does This Mutation Make Me Look Fat: Heart of the Swarm
My Life For Aiur? I Barely Know 'Er: Legacy of the Void
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2011-06-28, 07:29 PM (ISO 8601)
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Originally Posted by The Doctor
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2011-06-28, 09:05 PM (ISO 8601)
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I'd call the "1=auto-miss" enough penalty...the problem with critical fumbles is when DMs invent all sorts of ridiculous 'penalty tables' that in no way equally balance out simply dealing double or triple damage on a hit. I've seen everything from "provoke an AoO" to "drop your weapon" to (no lie) "auto-crit your nearest ally as the weapon flies out of your hands".
NOW COMPLETE: Let's Play Starcraft II Trilogy:
Hell, It's About Time: Wings of Liberty
Does This Mutation Make Me Look Fat: Heart of the Swarm
My Life For Aiur? I Barely Know 'Er: Legacy of the Void
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2011-06-28, 09:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-06-28, 09:45 PM (ISO 8601)
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Originally Posted by The Doctor
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2011-06-28, 09:47 PM (ISO 8601)
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That's more on the reasonable end of things.
NOW COMPLETE: Let's Play Starcraft II Trilogy:
Hell, It's About Time: Wings of Liberty
Does This Mutation Make Me Look Fat: Heart of the Swarm
My Life For Aiur? I Barely Know 'Er: Legacy of the Void