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Yes!
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66 PAGES! 32,000 WORDS!
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
I'm not done with Semper Fidelis, but it's all over but the epilogue and a touch of exposition! And editing, of course. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! SO CLOSE! I CAN TASTE IT! I CAN TAAAAAASTE IIIIIIIIIIIT!
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1.../edit?hl=en_US
Also, a question for anyone who reads it or has read it at any point up to now: what Equestria Daily tags do you feel are most appropriate for this story?My anime review podcast is coming back after a one year hiatus! www.fivepointpodcast.com
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2011-08-10, 02:12 AM (ISO 8601)
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Wow, its been years since I've played Zombies!. A friend of mine used to have it, and we played it a few times at the local gaming store, but after that, it sort of disappeared. The replacement game we use for it now is Last Night On Earth. Fun game, but not as open ended as Zombies! Fun to go to ridiculous lengths to roleplay the characters they give you though.
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Also, just going to put it out there, Steelix, one of my favorite 'mons. What can I say, I love both Ground and Fire.
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Eastern Time Zone High Five!
Hmmm....cool. I"m going to have to get back to reading it now, I want to see how it ends. I don't know what tags Equestria Daily uses, but probably a shipping tag, Applejack, Soarin, Soarinjack (if there is such a tag), and action. Basically, a repeat of what Grif just said.
@Esperderek: forgot to quote the post again, but congrats!
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2011-08-10, 02:44 AM (ISO 8601)
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2011-08-10, 03:31 AM (ISO 8601)
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Charger: Clearly this meeting must be held at a pony ranch.
I...I don't get it. And that scares me, because this means this will be spectacularly bad when it finally clicks. Half from the bad pun, and half because I don't see it now. Eeep.
Jayden: *Finishes grinning* Our work here is done.
Charger: We are having a hard time visualising a better use for our meagre savings than travelling intercontinental to attend this game.
Jayden: IT'S SO TRUE! I keep telling people this! There's one quote that's stuck with me forever and was part of my signature for 4 years: "I talked to my GM and got it resolved".
I have to ask, who was Storyteller? And what would have happened had everyone failed?
Mask: Charger has the biggest crush on him.
Charger: D-do not!
Mask: Anyway, had everyone failed... it wouldn't have been the end of the world, or the end of the game. Something horrible would have happened. Something globally, utterly, fundamentally horrible. It was hinted that the Internet would have been retconned out of existence, with everything that implies. The game would have gone on but something beautiful would have been destroyed forever.
I always hear these world domination plots, but they are always thwarted. Is the game master prepared to see it play out? Would the world fall to wrongness, and every proceeding game has to be done in a new world because of it?
I have this sick impulse to slog my way through 3/4ths of the plot, then switch sides just to see how far the story teller will take it. If I win, do I really get to command the world? Or is everything back to normal next game, like it was all a dream?
I'm surprised no one tried to convert or redirect the idea. All I requires is being stronger than the impulse. You can't stop the unstoppable force, but as part of it, with enough Will you can guide, direct, maybe even control it.
*Faces fall deathly grim. Even scared.*
Jayden: Someone suggested that in game. I nearly shot him.
Mask: We're also pretty sure that that's the plan of some evil mages.
You'd make one hay of a god-parent. The other two not so much, but all that rocketed optimism has got to be good for rearin' a sprat.
If there is anything I've learned from this thread, and especially all the Thanqol inspired mini-memes (), it's that crashing shouldn't happen because the brain isn't designed to compile anyway.
Throughout his career, Charizard has been a King of Beasts. I don't know what diamond/pearl or black/white bring to our saurion master race, but I'm pretty sure the glorious Age of Charizard is still in full swing.
Charger: Also Dragonaire.
you have intrigued me.
Tell me, what should it have played up, and what should it have not played up?
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SpoilerCharger: The Mage book and system is beautiful. It's beautiful! It's a system that requires, rewards, demands and inspires spur-of-the-moment creative genius. It's inspired. Laying out the base principles, there are 10 Arcanum - Death, Matter, Fate, Time, Forces, Prime, Life, Spirit, Mind and Space. These are ranked 1-5. One rank in any of these gives you all the investigation and knowledge gathering spells related to that discipline. One dot in Forces lets you hear radio waves, see infrared, perceive electrical currents running through buildings, everything. One dot in Death lets you determine exactly how someone died, or if they're going to die soon so on and so forth. This makes a Mage an investigative genius with an almost trivial expenditure of effort.
Rank two gives you all the shielding and concealing abilities related to that discipline. Rank three allows you to command it directly (Lightning jumps from wall sockets). Rank four lets you do anything you want to the subject which doesn't change it's fundamental nature (Electricity becomes sound - a lot of electricity will become a lot of sound because it's fundamental nature - LOTS - is unchanged). Five dots lets you Make and Unmake. You're given a phenomenally broad toolset to work with and moment-to-moment genius is what the game is all about.
However, if you read the book in the wrong way, what you'll see is a D&D 3.5 style list of spells - hard, self-contained discrete effects. It's an immensely boring read and can turn you off the entire thing or put binders on your creativity. Some of the spells in that spell list, furthermore, defy uselessness and that list makes some arcanum, notably Prime (the magic of magic) seem ridiculously worthless. What you've got to realise is that this is essentially an enormous errata block. They took all the rules arguments and weird loopholes from Old Mage and clarified them with concrete mechanical effects and consequences, so when a Time mage decides to speed himself up in combat there'll be a frame of reference other than the Storyteller throwing up his hands and saying "I don't know" in a Scooby Doo accent.
So that's my first piece of advice. Look at the spell list through that lens. It's a bunch of examples and an attempt to pre-empt as many rules arguments as it possibly can. The actual magic system in play works like a dream.
The second piece of advice is that a lot of people's brains shut down when they see the word "Atlantis" smeared all over the Mage creation myth. This is the worst creation myth ever. It's presented as utter, true, incontrovertible fact and reads like "Long ago things WERE GREAT until some guy SCREWED UP and now THINGS SUCK". It's absolutely rubbish as a history and misses the point of Mage so badly.
And yet, in a cosmic irony, various sourcebooks take this horrible fail of a creation myth and just by changing the tone slightly make it work, and work spectacularly. Magical Traditions is particularly noteworthy here. It actually spends it's entire first chapter discussing why Atlantis is part of the Mage cosmology, what it can offer your games in actual play, and how to go about removing or re-working it or filtering it through thousands of different mystical lenses and occult traditions and what that will mean. The corebook presents the Atlantis myth as hard fact, and that taints not just the myth but also the Magical Orders descended from that myth.
See, one of the biggest things about Mage is the search for the Truth. The world was broken by the Hubris of Awakened Man, and they separated the Supernal and the Truth and kept it for themselves. They then blinded the eyes of every human being and trapped them in a prison-world. Accepting reality's existence is to buy into the Lie made to keep you down. Giving a single, verifiable, canon meta-myth completely slaps that theme in the face.
If you read Mage wrong, you'll get the idea that it's about fairies and goblins. It's not, it's an incredibly humanocentric cosmos. If you read Mage wrong you'll get the idea the spell system works like D&D 3.5. It doesn't; it's a beautiful system that turns every encounter into a puzzle. If you read Mage wrong, you'll get the idea it's about a war against evil mages. It's not - one of the strangest and most compelling aspects of the setting is how small a role the antagonist factions actually play. The Seers of the Throne, Mages who serve the Lie and bad guys, are outnumbered 2:1 by Pentacle Mages and are rather afraid of all-out war. They much prefer conversation and conversion than gunfights and disappearances.
It's very easy to read Mage: The Awakened wrong. Everypony who has read the book in absence of other context, myself included, was left feeling uninspired and generally rather dreary. But if you have somepony on hand who *gets it* and can explain what it's actually about to you then it'll make so much more sense so much faster. It's absolutely worth looking into. Just remember to look at what it is rather than what it looks like.
What, really? Boy, hope Hubris isn't a bad thing... <<"
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Charger: Brain spiders.
Jayden: Ha ha ha ha!
Mask: And something pony related to keep this on topic:
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2011-08-10, 04:22 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: My Little Pony XIX: I Emptied Your Thread
I seem to recall shipping you with Madame LeFlour at one point, though that was a rather silly day in the thread. Want me to try to dig it up?
Congratulations on the internship!
I'll see about bringing Descent, Arkham Horror, and Betrayal at House on the Hill.
I seem to have managed to completely wipe my responses to your text wall. Twice. I'm sorry, but I can't quite bring myself to try a third time.
Also, there's nothing to be sorry about. In my book, that post verges on being called glorious.
*glomp* Yay! Hawkflight is back!
I don't play any MMOs, but a few of my friends are trying to woo me onto Guild Wars.
I do play Minecraft, and have a mob grinder that I'm planning on putting a Pinkie Pie on the side of, once that map comes back up.
There was a line you wanted us to remind you to end this with. I seem to have lost track of that post, so I'll just bring this up. Do you remember the line? I'm also really tempted to ignore the fact I should have been asleep a few hours ago and get caught up on what you've written.
[Shipping] and [Adventure] are the only tags that spring to mind. I don't read as much fanfic as I'd like (and, oddly, still can't quite bring myself to try non-ponyfics), so I don't really know what options are available.
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2011-08-10, 04:54 AM (ISO 8601)
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Hmm, interesting. Your words are wise :o Perhaps I'll give this "direct" thing a go one day.
Certainly blows my mind. Who ever did those two got them spot on. Every day this fandom finds new ways to amaze.
It's actually "3 months of winter coolness".
Overheat springs to mind. 140 power STAB. Air slash is a powerful flying move with a 30% flinch chance. Oh, and he can heal now.
I recently started playing Rusty Hearts, which is kind of an MMO brawler type game. Very fun.
Yeah, that x4 weakness is pretty harsh, especially when you factor in that stealth rock damages 50% of your hp on switching in.
Hmm, my post is too Pokemon. Need to Pony it up with a short image dump:
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Ducktales! Ooh woo-ooh!
A vampire I don't hate! Amazing! :O
WARNING! Brohoofs may be hazardous to your health and to the health of those around you (within a 3-mile radius):
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2011-08-10, 06:31 AM (ISO 8601)
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DERP. Wasn't paying attention, let a post slip by.
So... Hi again, Hawk Flight! I remember you because of your signature, and trying to puzzle out if ou just wanted to express yourself that way, or if you really wanted random hugs. I never dis decide which would be more likely...
Also also, I got a this.
That's cool. I lament he loss of specific knowledge, but I wouldn't want you to slog through all of that again. I am obsessive; and ven then, there are times where I want to use ritual magics to personify the forums for the sole purpose of kicking them in the nuts.
Hm. Wow, ok. Didn't seem to hit quote on anything. I must be tired.
Kurgan: I understand (and I, too, have a soft spot for Steelix) but sometimes, the cost just isn't worth it. I would rather have shuckle. Why?
Because my Epic Transcendent spell, with a DC of 100,000+, to destroy all of creation if the gods stop me from unwinding and re-writing things, boiled down to one of two creatures. The kool-aid man bustin through planar boundaries, or a ginormous shuckle. And I went with shuckle.
Seriously, what would disturb you more in the Lovecraftian sense? A giant animate shovel head with eyes, or a writhing mass of tentacles, dripping with jam of all things, screaming "SHUUUUUCKLLLLLE" into the minds of all things?
Charizard isn't the best, I was just enjoying the chance to sell him. But he has a Coolness that sry few pokemon can meet. And it seems the more pokemon we get, the fewer cool ones there are. Each succeeding generation has a lower percentage of worthwhile cool. Or I'm a grognard fogey, one of the two.
I don't know if they changed it or not, but gondra had no elemental weaknesses except Dragon. What do you think of gondra (or whatever Seadra turns into)?
Thanqol: so the Mage rulebook should have been "here are a bunch of powers, here is how they function; go make the world beautiful!" aye?
That's something I've been pondering. The difference between a 'story driven' and 'character driven' game. I am sadly only comfortable somewhere in the middle. In the White Wolf games, designed very specifically with a ST rather than GM, I would get rather upset when things that should go as planned, wouldn't. Most likely exacerbated by my needing to find a new group, as well. Guess I could do new group or new game, but not both at once...
I think I will give this a gander, though; I was at some point very specifically turned off of Mage because the premise seemed bogus. Of the oWoD games, only Werewolf held any real appeal outside of strip-mining for concepts.
DBC, I will read your story when I wake up (probably around noonish, or 3 if I hit a squall on my way home from Nod). Your writing takes a lot of energy, sometimes. To get into, I mean. Because it's emotionally engaging? Go ahead and stop me when this finally sounds like the compliment I had intended...
Esper: we seem to be seriously contemplating breaking into your house with board games. Pray I don't come upon a sudden windfall. Or that I do, whichever is more to your liking.
And now, off to bed, to recharge the hand-eye coordination. Tomorrow is a day of conversation, exercise, drawing and procrastination! (pick at least 2)
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2011-08-10, 06:49 AM (ISO 8601)
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Seadra evolves into Kingdra. Its a solid pokemon, overall good stats if memory serves (to lazy to look up now, but I think it is something like 95 base stats across the board). My big problem with it is that it Seadra looks much cooler to me.
I think that is a logical reason to choose shuckle. I never had much interest in that one though.
On the percentage of coolness, it varies, some games have lots and lots of interesting mons, others not so much. Black and White had a few hits, like a steel/bug ant, a steel/bug....kind of looks like a knight, and a fire type anteater.
Now, to the person who linked to Bittersweet:
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Wow, sad. Though I was a bit thrown off when it turned into an adventure story.
More general, when I was looking for the above image, I stumbled across this:
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Considering the talk of top hats earlier, figured I'd post it.
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2011-08-10, 07:03 AM (ISO 8601)
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Thanks to Dirty Tabs for the Travis pony.
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Thanks to A Thousand Words for the My Little Simhata avatar, and thanks to Trixie for fixing the cropping.
Breakdown Twilight from Pony Halloween celebration, thanks to Thanqol.
Thanks to Akrim.Elf for the awesome Laharl pony.
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so... If a pony board game is to be made, what do you think it should be like?
pony vs pony or cooperative?
if cooperative, will it be all player against a big bad or maybe something Euro like see who gets the most cupcake market production?
or to make it simpler, what board games would you like to see ponified? Arkham Horror? Battlestar Galactica? Settler of Catan? Twilight Imperium? Saint Petersburg? anything you want to name."Winning with friendship means winning at life!"
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Thanks to Dirty Tabs for the Travis pony.
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Thanks to A Thousand Words for the My Little Simhata avatar, and thanks to Trixie for fixing the cropping.
Breakdown Twilight from Pony Halloween celebration, thanks to Thanqol.
Thanks to Akrim.Elf for the awesome Laharl pony.
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one more.
It's actually "3 months of winter coolness".
*watches*
Huh. How did I get that wrong all this time?
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More importantly though, I think I'm finally catching up to what Phoe, Thanqol, Bobcat have been hinting I was missing. The fandom is nice and all, but... Ponies.
I let all the preconceptions fall away for a spell, and just watched the winter wrap-up song routine.
My Stars.
This show. It's so nice. All "cute" and "d'awww" and "o noes diabeetus" aside, I feel so much better now. I almost started to cry.
I think I'm going to go to bed, let this comfy warmth in my chest germinate while I hibernate. But I wanted to say that every now and again, one must get back to the source. It was like watching a show, and feeling all the stuff you felt when you saw the trailer. The primal experiences. I'll leave off on the Bon-BonXLyra and the Midnight and even the Thistle for a bit, and just have Pony.
It's magical. If this Guran Lagann is even half as effective, you've got a convert.
Goodnight every pony.
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2011-08-10, 07:12 AM (ISO 8601)
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Charger: No, no, not even that. It didn't need to be radically different, as I keep saying almost everything about Mage is great. What I'm saying is that the core book presents it all in the wrong light. It presents what should be mysterious as solid fact and what should be an incitement to creativity as a closed-off set of rules that look like you have to memorise them. The lighting is wrong. The same story told properly, in Seers or Traditions, just works.
That's something I've been pondering. The difference between a 'story driven' and 'character driven' game. I am sadly only comfortable somewhere in the middle. In the White Wolf games, designed very specifically with a ST rather than GM, I would get rather upset when things that should go as planned, wouldn't. Most likely exacerbated by my needing to find a new group, as well. Guess I could do new group or new game, but not both at once...
Jayden: Which I prefer!
I think I will give this a gander, though; I was at some point very specifically turned off of Mage because the premise seemed bogus. Of the oWoD games, only Werewolf held any real appeal outside of strip-mining for concepts.
Mask: But, as usual, it's all in the execution. (Also note that we're talking nMage; we have no experience with oMage)
Charger: Now, how to make this post topical for ponies?
Jayden: Way ahead of ya.
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Thanks to Dirty Tabs for the Travis pony.
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Thanks to A Thousand Words for the My Little Simhata avatar, and thanks to Trixie for fixing the cropping.
Breakdown Twilight from Pony Halloween celebration, thanks to Thanqol.
Thanks to Akrim.Elf for the awesome Laharl pony.
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Geez, dude, it's not like I've tried to keep my location some sort of terrible secret or something, but if you insist on doing this, I'll state that the others are right, and I am indeed in the Eastern Time Zone.
So what place is Mediterranean Avenue?
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but there's already a ponified monopoly
what I actually want to know is what would you envision a MLP boardgame to be."Winning with friendship means winning at life!"
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2011-08-10, 07:20 AM (ISO 8601)
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It's insane how well done these are:
Sweet Apple Acres local TV commercial
My Little Baccano!
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2011-08-10, 07:29 AM (ISO 8601)
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Actually, I was thinking of Excavalier
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I picture a game like Carcassonne, where the players compete, but not in a violent, destroy their battleships, way. Everyone draws a tile and they build the pony village/countryside, scoring points for completing roads, villages, and so on. Would have to tweak it a bit since I don't think ponies have much use for monasteries, but other than that, it could work almost as it. Also, you could pretty much add the dragon expansion as is now that I think of it.
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It's not a board game, it's a wargame, but Manouvre Group could easily work for MLP:FiM... As it doesn't deal is specific casualties (instead, they have Leadership, a value which basically tracks combat effectiveness (an abtraction of fatigue, ammo, expenditure, casualties and morale) and how well you can do stuff (like get radio commands), you could simply say the Leadership increases are cute-and-pie related and at combat ineffective leadership, the infantry are just sitting down and cheerfully singing to themselves happy pony songs (or just too covered in pie to move).
Conversely, LD on ponies would be them cowering and fainting from the horror, the horror of getting all muddy or somesuch...
And on armour, you'd just assume that magic spells (songs, baleful polymorph or some such) have basically their normal effects, except that instead of actual damage, it's just the crew passing out from cute-overload of something if you get a brew-up or neutralised result, and pie in the turning mechanism/tracks (immobilisation), covering the radio/sights (externals). Or something.
Damn, you don't even have to change the rules. Like, at ALL. How awesome is MG?
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"Dagnabbit!"
"Oopsie! Looks like you landed on another one of my hotels Applejack! That's another 500 bits you owe me!"
"Ah still can't believe you bought Sweet Apple Acres out from under me! Of all the low down, dirty-"
"Oh, relax Applejack! It's only a game!"
"Yeah, it's not like I actually have plans to buy your farm, demolish your home and build a giant hotel and parking lot there!"
"Well, yeah I know but-"
"It's gonna be a giant toy store instead!"
"Why you-! "
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A long, long time ago I played Everquest 2. And an even longer time ago than that, I played Runescape. Now, however, the only MMO that I play from time to time is Adventure Quest Worlds.
I can't believe that I didn't think of this. Pinkie Pie, you are so random."Why is it that we receive a penny for our thoughts, but have to put in our 2 cents?"
Previous Avatars:
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Fluttershy in the Playground - third place
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That's my preferred approach btw. It works in 80% of all cases. The other 20% are the trash in my apartment. I'm stalling because I have to clean up today.
Same here. But in the last weeks I always had to do something all day. When I stand up I always had to catch up 5-10 pages, and when I reached the last one, I had to leave the house. Then I had no time for replies and just opened all marked quotes in a new tab for later. When I came back, here were some more pages I had to catch up, and when I reached that end I had to leave house again for stuff.
Well, okay then. But it's still no fair deal, since Braz counts for at least 3 good fillies, or 7 medicore, or 14 bad ones.
Try Millilixietrixieshipsy.
New plan for world domination: Use second paycheck for ordering animated Miniponies.
poor Rarity
I think Rainbow Dash said it best: