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2012-02-08, 09:44 AM (ISO 8601)
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@book K, 5 etc:
I think that now we can already speculate about NEXT kickstarter Rich will do - maybe when book5 is ready (end of the year?) + maybe when he will have some material for next prequel . . . after all this pdf madness he can finish book5 storyline (not much left anyway I guess) and do some extra stuff for prequels (and by that time it won't be that spoileroid) in say a year. And he certainly is thrilled about this drive too, in interview he mentioned a few internal goals to sort of pay us back (speeding up the writing maybe?). So he might have done it in that time. Only concern is if the "speeeed" might affect quality, but considering he was always saying how pace that he's making comic at depends on his mood, I'd say he's gonna write a lot faster this year and it's going to be awesome :D
So tl;dr: next year there very likely might be next kickstarter, say for book5 + maybe another prequel. And if it gets even close to madness of this one, I think Rich will have easy Mystery prize ready - PDF K into Book K.
And that's way more realistic than any way of including (printing of) book K in rewards for this kickstarter.
p.s. I hope it's understandable, english is not my primary language ^^Last edited by Tev; 2012-02-08 at 09:44 AM.
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2012-02-08, 09:58 AM (ISO 8601)
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Estimating high COULD hurt something, because of the peculiarities of the printing business. There are points where X number of pages is actually more expensive than X+1 because of the way paper is priced. Of course, it's not ACTUALLY X+1 (more like X+8 or X+16 or X+32) because printing presses don't print just one page at a time. I doubt these books are being printed on sheet fed-presses because that would be just ridiculously expensive compared to a web press (they use giant rolls of paper and print 8 pages at a time called a "signature).
So, if he estimates for a 64 page book and only comes out with 54 pages, he could run into a situation where he can add 2 more pages for an even signature (a 32-page, +a 16-page, +an 8-page signature = a 56 page book), but the cost is high than if he actually added 10 more pages.*
Scrambling to add extra content like that isn't a trivial matter, especially when you're already at your print deadline and the printer calls you up and says "Yeah, you need another 2 pages"**.
Basically, it's not like running down to your copy shop and having them print and bind a term paper. Printing is a very persnickety, volatile, costly business (working with printers is part of my job).
*Actually page counts and price points may vary based on printer, paper prices and other commodities that constantly fluctuate in price.
** I'm sure Rich is experienced enough now to NOT send files to the printer that do not already have the correct number of pages for the signatures, it's just an exampleJediSoth
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2012-02-08, 10:22 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-02-08, 10:43 AM (ISO 8601)
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I haven't compared directly, but isn't the reward level for one book greater than the retail cost of the book + shipping? Or at least equal to it?
Since every book sold elsewhere (online, bookstores, etc) yields some profit for Rich, then every book given as a reward will also have some net profit for Rich. I figure he will at least do ... OK.Last edited by SteveDJ; 2012-02-08 at 10:44 AM.
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2012-02-08, 10:51 AM (ISO 8601)
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I thought there was an earlier comment that a Cintaq only cost, maybe $3000, so a goal would be too small.
But let's look at it this way -- the top reward pledge of $5000 only gets ... a little bit of Rich's time. No books/products/shipping. (Well, ok, maybe the freebie stuff, but that's nothing compared to $5K).
And there are other pledge reward levels similar in that they just cost a bit of his time.
I would say, if he wants one, he's already got a Cintaq coming!
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2012-02-08, 10:56 AM (ISO 8601)
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And that amount pays for printing more than that one copy of the book. The whole reason for the Kickstarter after all. This isn't a preorder the book for the cost of the book, this is raise money to put the books back into print so they can be sold in gaming shops and comic stores again, reaching a wider audience.
So, no Rich is not seeing any profit. He is raising capital to get a stock of material that he will be able to sell to fund the next print job and have a small bit of profit.
Each reward level needs to pay for:
The cost of the rewards, quite staggering by itself.
The shipping of the rewards
The printing of at least 3 other books to be sold in stores.
Amazon's cut
Kickstarter's cut
Various fees on capital funds
Frankly, I fear that Rich is underselling, especially considering international orders, and Kickstarters and Amazon's cuts (10%+ fees)Last edited by Forbiddenwar; 2012-02-08 at 11:02 AM.
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2012-02-08, 11:06 AM (ISO 8601)
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I'd have loved to see King Lear, my favorite of the Shakespeares, but I don't think it's as accessible. On the other hand, everyone's read/seen/heard Romeo and Juliet, so I understand why it was the first choice.
I'm in agreement though. I'm looking forward to watching Haley and Elan tastefully destroy the classicLast edited by Gullintanni; 2012-02-08 at 11:06 AM.
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2012-02-08, 11:26 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-02-08, 11:31 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-02-08, 11:39 AM (ISO 8601)
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I've always taken Titus as unintentional comedy. Plenty of room to make it work. I mean, think about it. Tarquin Andronicus, and Not-Quite-Wife-#10 as Tamora, Haley can resume cryptograms as Halinia...
It seems reasonably possible.
Make Lavinia a daughter by marriage to Lucius (played by Elan) and have Elan second guessing his father's methods...
Also, a Stick Tale as told by Tarquin would be awesome and it's hard to see him telling anything different - it fits him too well.
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2012-02-08, 11:47 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-02-08, 11:54 AM (ISO 8601)
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Wait, I'm still getting the PDFs aren't I?
I donated $10, and from what I've read so far it seems to indicate I would get them, but the latest update said that people who have pledged OVER $10 will be getting the PDFs.
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2012-02-08, 12:10 PM (ISO 8601)
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For some reason when you said 'destroy the classic', I had this flash of memory from oh, so long ago, watching the muppets on Sesame Street destroying classic nursery rhymes. And now I'm wondering if the muppets did a take on Romeo and Juliet (Muppet Show series, maybe?)
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2012-02-08, 12:16 PM (ISO 8601)
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Concluded: The Stick Awards II: Second Edition
Ongoing: OOTS by Page Count
Coming Soon: OOTS by Final Post Count II: The Post Counts Always Chart Twice
Coming Later: The Stick Awards III: The Search for More Votes
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2012-02-08, 01:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-02-08, 02:07 PM (ISO 8601)
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I finally gave in and upgraded to the $222 complete story pledge. 7 books of OotS goodness, here I come!
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2012-02-08, 03:53 PM (ISO 8601)
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"May Roy find a True Ressurrect spell"
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2012-02-08, 04:25 PM (ISO 8601)
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Yeah hopefully the rate changes that they just put in a week or two ago don't mess with this drive too much. I remember when Priority Mail envelopes were in the 3 dollar range, now it's almost in the 5.
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2012-02-08, 05:01 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-02-08, 05:37 PM (ISO 8601)
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Sadly, I think the spot where Rich undersold is on his signature. He has to sign 700+ things in this drive and the cost for that signature is around a $15 markup (someone who cares can check my dirty napkin figuring) on the cost of the unsigned equivalent (where there is an equivalent). He easily could have charged more for them when you consider every one of them sold out within 30 minutes of being posted. He rarely goes to conventions and his signature is pretty rare. (And SHAME on anyone who puts any of those signed books up on Ebay.)
He also undersold the high end rewards. I think he just didn't realize how much people were willing to spend on his "little stick figure webcomic".Last edited by jmucchiello; 2012-02-08 at 05:39 PM.
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2012-02-08, 05:38 PM (ISO 8601)
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https://www.prioritymail.com/flatrates.asp
Large Flat Rate Box
Domestic Rate: $15.45 at the Post Office™
APO/FPO/DPO Rate*: $13.45 at the Post Office
International Rate**: $39.95 (Mexico/Canada), $60.95 (all other countries) at the Post Office
Size:12" x 12" x 5 1/2"
The Kickstart shipping costs say:
"(Canada/Mexico orders, please add $22 extra to your pledge to cover shipping; international orders, add $37.)"
So it comes across as Rich taking a $2.50 hit on each shipment to Canada, (actual cost is +$24.50 to Canada), and an $8.50 hit on each international shipment, (actual cost is +$45.50 internationally).
I hope he's done his numbers better somewhere else, because at this point it looks like the drive will be subsidizing international shipping.
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2012-02-08, 05:43 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-02-08, 05:50 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-02-08, 05:56 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-02-08, 05:57 PM (ISO 8601)
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7,436 Backers
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Under $6500 to the top 5.
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2012-02-08, 06:01 PM (ISO 8601)
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If not for the speculator, the book could have gone to someone who would have kept it and no one but Rich profits from Rich's work.
Having logged into Kickstarter at the right time of day to catch those times Rich added new rewards is a slimy way to make money. And yes, I hate concert ticket brokers who mark up the price on the good seats by selling them aftermarket too.
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2012-02-08, 06:15 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-02-08, 06:23 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-02-08, 06:54 PM (ISO 8601)
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Thanks to Castaras for the avatar!
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2012-02-08, 08:01 PM (ISO 8601)
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