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2012-09-26, 11:14 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-09-26, 11:46 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5] The Stuffy Doll Vs the Playground (V.1 ~ V.28)
Hmm, well if I can get a way to do 1 point of lethal damage to it in mentally activated item form then I think I know how to finish it off from there.
Or assuming no save abilities bypass its regeneration, all it takes is a repeat of the mirror of opposition trick.Last edited by ericgrau; 2012-09-26 at 11:48 PM.
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2012-09-26, 11:48 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5] The Stuffy Doll Vs the Playground (V.1 ~ V.28)
It's a chicken vs egg scenario in the text. To tired to debate it as I am moving into the 16th cycle
Vile damage does indeed bypass regeneration. (I asked an old friend who is completely unaware of this game, and he agreed with you.)
You may use Leadership, but V.16 will have something to say about this.
For the next one I have to make more rules pertaining to leadership since everyone has started using it (this doesn't apply to you if you haven't).
I copied the Tarrasque's regeneration right out of the SRD. I'll remove that to make it more functioning with Stuffy Doll. For now, I'll say that Immunity is superseded since I'm going off into the 16th version.Larloch, The Shadow King (w/ Ioun Stones) avatar by Iron Penguin
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2012-09-26, 11:55 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5] The Stuffy Doll Vs the Playground (V.1 ~ V.28)
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2012-09-27, 12:12 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-09-27, 12:17 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5] The Stuffy Doll Vs the Playground (V.1 ~ V.28)
=>ericgrau
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HELLO LADIES AND GENTLEMEN OF THE PLAYGROUND! I welcome you to enter a competition that test your Pineal Gland. You see the Stuffy Doll is a sort of experiment that I want to start running where I throw a nearly invincible creature in front of you (or on another plane or wherever really) and you try your best to kill it to the best of your abilities. The fun part is that you get
Benefits:
Spoiler- Access to 2 spell list with 20th level casting (9th level spells).
- Unlimited WBL (This does NOT extend to followers and cohorts, you already have enough money).
- Complete and utter control over how you approach the matter.
- The Stuffy Doll is 100% immobile.
- Infinite Leadership is A.O.K in this game.
- As with all Theoretical Optimization challenges DM's fiat does NOT exist.
However there have to be some challenges of course
Challenges:
Spoiler- The Stuffy Doll has Infinite SR and can make Any Saving Throw no matter how absurdly high.
- In 2 rounds the creature will immediately kill you with no saves, no SR and without question.
- After each victory, the creature is improved in some way shape and form (The location, an additional ability, a change in Creature type, etc.)
- Diplomacy won't work against this creature.
- Cohorts and followers are considered "victims" of the Curse if you so choose to use them.
Failed Models 1-13
I welcome you to challenge The Stuffy Doll Version 0.14-0.28
SpoilerOriginally Posted by Arcanist
I welcome you to confront V.16 of the Stuffy Doll [Monolith V.16]Last edited by Arcanist; 2012-09-27 at 12:58 AM.
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2012-09-27, 12:39 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5] The Stuffy Doll Vs the Playground (V.1 ~ V.28)
Five bucks says that the Stuffy Doll will pick up the Aleax's Singular Enemy ability at some point.
Also, you missed Bend Reality under Immunities.
To be honest, I'm pretty much out of ideas at this point. I've thrown every TO trick I can come up with at this thing, and it keeps coming back. We need to get some of the more ridiculous optimizers in this thread. The best I can come up with is to teleport through time all the way back to V.1, which was still a humanoid, and steal Stuffy Doll and Transcendent Evolution via Illithid Savant shenanigans, probably using Sanctum Arcane Fusion + Celerity loop to give you the actions to pull it off without causing rounds to pass by.Last edited by Chess435; 2012-09-27 at 12:52 AM.
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2012-09-27, 12:41 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5] The Stuffy Doll Vs the Playground (V.1 ~ V.28)
The regeneration revision eliminates my competitor, since there is no way to kill this thing with damage and then keep it dead by any means (nothing overcomes its regeneration).
I can still do 1,000,000,050+ damage to it in the first round (enough to kill it), but can't stop its regeneration from undoing its death, just delay it for a very long time.
Thoughts on this, Playground?Homebrew!
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2012-09-27, 12:56 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5] The Stuffy Doll Vs the Playground (V.1 ~ V.28)
The way to beat the Stuffy Doll forever seems to be to sneak into the Hall of Origin before it targets you, steel the Emerald Tablet that lists him, and erase his entry. Now he no longer exists.
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2012-09-27, 01:03 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5] The Stuffy Doll Vs the Playground (V.1 ~ V.28)
Version 16
High dex, improved initiative
Lots of elf cohorts with antimagic field and extend spell.
Psion // Wizard
Time regression to the round before I was cursed. I have not been cursed yet.
Cast extended antimagic field (400 minutes > 6 hours)
The creature winks out of existence because it's incorporeal.
5 hours later a cohort walks by and casts extended antimagic field.
Overlapping antimagic fields do not affect eachother.
The cohort takes my place.
Cohorts take turns from there forever, forming the Order of Stuffy Doll who's sole goal is to keep the creature trapped and prevent it from destroying empires.Last edited by ericgrau; 2012-09-27 at 01:07 AM.
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2012-09-27, 01:08 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5] The Stuffy Doll Vs the Playground (V.1 ~ V.28)
I was actually planning to do that for V.28
Thanks
I welcome you to try and find a way to go back 16,000+ years before this entire process started
I believe in you!
You have 2 rounds to physically travel 10 miles (and then 700-800 miles back) plane shift away and then cast erase on the tablet to erase the Stuffy Doll from existence... and then you realized that "Holy crap, none of this is possible since the tablets only work while in the presence of the Stuffy Doll".
I'll stat out the effects of the Hall of Origins eventually... I'm tired right now and have class in the morning... won't leave yet, but I just won't re-modify it for a while.
I'd like to take a minute to just say that this is the single coolest idea I've ever seen in my life... Seriously... I really love this idea and I love you for making it. On that note: You cannot create an Anti-Magic Field inside the Temple since you can't do anything magical or psionic-y in or within 50 miles of the Temple.Last edited by Arcanist; 2012-09-27 at 01:12 AM.
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2012-09-27, 01:11 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5] The Stuffy Doll Vs the Playground (V.1 ~ V.28)
EDIT: I got it.
I am any creature with two arms, the Improved Grapple feat, at least one level in Cancer Mage (guess which disease I'm infected with!), and a Bag of Devouring. I have spent at least twenty years with this festering illness turning me into Muscle Wizard (at a rate of +2 STR/day), so my to-hit modifier is at least +7,300 just from that. I walk up to the creature, make a touch attack to initiate a grapple (provoking no attacks of opportunity thanks to the Improved Grapple feat), which I easily pass except on a 1, because my to-hit bonus is [insert bonus here], to stuff the creature into the Bag of Devouring. If it fails the grapple check (if it uses my grapple modifier, this is all but automatic, since my STR bonus is [insert bonus here]), it is "consumed". No save, no SR, no amount of hit point damage of any kind; just "consumed".
Do I win V.16?Homebrew!
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2012-09-27, 01:14 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-09-27, 01:15 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5] The Stuffy Doll Vs the Playground (V.1 ~ V.28)
And the outlands spire negates supernatural effects? I'm still confused whether it prevents casting or supresses for each of spells, SLAs and Sus. EDIT: Oh it's a dead magic zone? So that means magic items too?
Last edited by ericgrau; 2012-09-27 at 01:28 AM.
So you never have to interrupt a game to look up a rule again:
My 3.5e Rules Cheat Sheets: Normal, With Consolidated Skill System
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Utilities: Magic Item Shop Generator (Req. MS Excel), Balanced Low Magic Item System
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2012-09-27, 01:16 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5] The Stuffy Doll Vs the Playground (V.1 ~ V.28)
Homebrew!
5e: Expanded Inspiration Uses
Spoiler: 3.5/P Stuff. Warning: OLDBase Classes: Blood Mage
Prestige Classes: Trophy Hunter / Spellshatterer
Miscellany: Permanency Support
Resources:
Alchemical Items/Special Materials List / E6 Magic Item List
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2012-09-27, 01:19 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5] The Stuffy Doll Vs the Playground (V.1 ~ V.28)
A) I said "before it targets you." I think the gods (and various other eldritch and power entities) would be very upset to have this kind of thing around, and this would be a very appropriate quest to send someone on.
B) After erasing the Stuffy Doll's entry, you put it back.
C) There is nothing in the Emerald Tablets description that says they must be in the presence of the Stuffy Doll to function. The description shows the Stuffy Doll drawing power from the tablets, not vice-versa. As these are things outside of the Stuffy Doll's being, he also doesn't get to adapt them for his next version :P
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2012-09-27, 01:21 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5] The Stuffy Doll Vs the Playground (V.1 ~ V.28)
Doesn't the bag of devouring have a "n/a" for its price since it's a creature?
So you never have to interrupt a game to look up a rule again:
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2012-09-27, 01:22 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5] The Stuffy Doll Vs the Playground (V.1 ~ V.28)
=>ericgrau & Lonely Tylenol
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HELLO LADIES AND GENTLEMEN OF THE PLAYGROUND! I welcome you to enter a competition that test your Pineal Gland. You see the Stuffy Doll is a sort of experiment that I want to start running where I throw a nearly invincible creature in front of you (or on another plane or wherever really) and you try your best to kill it to the best of your abilities. The fun part is that you get
Benefits:
Spoiler- Access to 2 spell list with 20th level casting (9th level spells).
- Unlimited WBL (This does NOT extend to followers and cohorts, you already have enough money).
- Complete and utter control over how you approach the matter.
- The Stuffy Doll is 100% immobile.
- Infinite Leadership is A.O.K in this game.
- As with all Theoretical Optimization challenges DM's fiat does NOT exist.
However there have to be some challenges of course
Challenges:
Spoiler- The Stuffy Doll has Infinite SR and can make Any Saving Throw no matter how absurdly high.
- In 2 rounds the creature will immediately kill you with no saves, no SR and without question.
- After each victory, the creature is improved in some way shape and form (The location, an additional ability, a change in Creature type, etc.)
- Diplomacy won't work against this creature.
- Cohorts and followers are considered "victims" of the Curse if you so choose to use them.
Failed Models 1-13
I welcome you to challenge The Stuffy Doll Version 0.14-0.28
SpoilerOriginally Posted by ArcanistLast edited by Arcanist; 2012-09-27 at 01:26 AM.
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2012-09-27, 01:30 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5] The Stuffy Doll Vs the Playground (V.1 ~ V.28)
A) Using Gods and Divine Ranks is effectively the same as DMs fiat and as such using them in this case is just ridiculous. Thank you for reminding me of a weakness of the Stuffy Doll, I had forgot that it was weak against [Redacted for spoiling].
B) Thank you, I covered that in V.17
C) I was getting ahead of myself in a feature I wanted to add. Sorry
You have unlimited WBL those prices don't mean anything right now.Last edited by Arcanist; 2012-09-27 at 01:34 AM.
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2012-09-27, 01:39 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5] The Stuffy Doll Vs the Playground (V.1 ~ V.28)
Version 17
Psion with leadership
rogue cohort with:
skill focus (hide), stealthy, skill focus (move silently)
skill focus (sleight of hand), deft hands
skill mastery(hide, move silently, sleight of hand)
Time regression multiple times to before the creature sees me.
Send in cohort to sneak into the hall of origins with mundane stealth abilities.
Cohort swipes the emerald tablets.
Cohort sneak outs.
Punch out the creature's listing with an adamantine pickaxe.Last edited by ericgrau; 2012-09-27 at 01:53 AM.
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2012-09-27, 01:51 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5] The Stuffy Doll Vs the Playground (V.1 ~ V.28)
Y'know what would be pretty funny? Getting the ability to Turn Undead as a level 84000000+ Cleric with the Sun domain and just dusting the thing. With the limitless available wealth, can this be accomplished? (Not being a 3.5 player I don't know what TU boosters there are, much less which of them stack endlessly)
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2012-09-27, 01:52 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5] The Stuffy Doll Vs the Playground (V.1 ~ V.28)
I wanna say the Emerald Tablets have the same hardness and thickness as a Wall of Force to shut down that entire trick, because it's starting to annoy me
... Lol... Must say that I'm happy that people thought of this
EDIT: I'm curious how you managed to do all of this in just 2 roundsLast edited by Arcanist; 2012-09-27 at 01:54 AM.
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2012-09-27, 01:54 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5] The Stuffy Doll Vs the Playground (V.1 ~ V.28)
EDIT @ ^: Time regression to before I was cursed or even noticed.
If that doesn't work then I'll find a sphere of annihilation, drop in the tablet that has the creature on it, and anything else on that tablet is collateral damage.Last edited by ericgrau; 2012-09-27 at 01:54 AM.
So you never have to interrupt a game to look up a rule again:
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2012-09-27, 01:55 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5] The Stuffy Doll Vs the Playground (V.1 ~ V.28)
... You'd really destroy all life (including yourself), just to end the Stuffy Doll?
I think you've just earned your 3rd ball
EDIT: Nothing states that the Stuffy Doll cannot just re-target you since it's actions are fixed. Since it is in possession of the Emerald Tablets it always knows you exist and therefore cannot ignore you. It's actions are pre-set and it will always choose you.Last edited by Arcanist; 2012-09-27 at 01:57 AM.
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2012-09-27, 01:57 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5] The Stuffy Doll Vs the Playground (V.1 ~ V.28)
^~Cody T.~^
"I see now that the circumstances of one's birth are irrelevant; it is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are." - Mewtwo
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2012-09-27, 02:01 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-09-27, 02:44 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5] The Stuffy Doll Vs the Playground (V.1 ~ V.28)
Version 17
Time regression to 1 round before I was cursed.
Teleport Through Time 10 years into the past.
Sneak in with mundane stealth, swipe the emerald tablets, sneak out.
Attempt to punch out the creature's listing with an adamantine pickaxe.
If that fails, orb of acid.
If that fails, into a sphere of annihilation it goes.Last edited by ericgrau; 2012-09-27 at 02:47 AM.
So you never have to interrupt a game to look up a rule again:
My 3.5e Rules Cheat Sheets: Normal, With Consolidated Skill System
TOGC's 3.5e Spell/etc Cards: rpgnow / drivethru rpg
Utilities: Magic Item Shop Generator (Req. MS Excel), Balanced Low Magic Item System
Printable Cardstock Dungeon Tiles and other terrain stuff (100 MB)
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2012-09-27, 04:50 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5] The Stuffy Doll Vs the Playground (V.1 ~ V.28)
my this is an interesting challenge; i don't have the skills of some of the top optimizers, but i've pondered what ideas I can come up with.
Since there are ways to get people there as others have shown; i've noted the doll has no skills.
http://www.d20srd.org/srd/epic/skills.htm#bluff
the details on epic bluff suggestion is a little vague in the srd; there's no sr since it's not a magical effect. whether it allows a save or not is unclear, there might only be the sense motive check (wiht a +50 bonus) opposing the bluff check.
if so, getting you or someone else to a high enough skill to use bluff every 10 minutes to bluff the doll into not killing you and/or killing itself or something should work
edit - also use bluff to get the doll to want to draw from a deck of many things.
I don't see any other interesting epic skill uses, assuming the diplomancy bar also affects the perform skill.
hmm, i see there's an added rule to prevent grappling by making it wholly untouchable regardless of ghost touch effects, as well as freedom of movement effect. i don't see a way around the generic untouchable clause; i don't know of any 3.5 people that have the ability of the PF tetori archetype of monks that disdables freedom of movement effects.
another idea - i dont' have the book with truenaming in it; is there a way to change someone's truename? if you change your truename and reincarnate, arguably you're no longer the same person, so the curse is moot. or maybe permanently merge with another entity, thus ceasing to be the original but a new composite entity.
edit - just thought of something else; the casting level/ save dcs for the dispel/disjunction frmo purify aren't listed, so i'll assume the defaults, caster level = hd and dc uses one of his stats for the casting. if you carry around some artifacts the purify will destroy them, this triggers the 95% chance to attract a powerful being connected to it; what that would mean in practice is rather unclear, but probably not good for the doll if you can get artifacts connected to an overdeity; even a greater deity would probably be helpful.Last edited by zlefin; 2012-09-27 at 05:05 AM.
A neat custom class for 3.5 system
http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=94616
A good set of benchmarks for PF/3.5
https://rpgwillikers.wordpress.com/2...y-the-numbers/
An alternate craft point system I made for 3.5
http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showt...t-Point-system
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2012-09-27, 07:04 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5] The Stuffy Doll Vs the Playground (V.1 ~ V.28)
I might of missed it. How did LT close with the thing in V.16 within two rounds?
Dex
SpoilerRegarding my Necrotic Apprentice trick:
Regarding my Non-Epic Hidecarved Dragon:
Check out the Versatile Domain Generalist.
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Re: [3.5] The Stuffy Doll Vs the Playground (V.1 ~ V.28)
V.17
I need to add 2 levels of Squire of Legend, Spell Mastery (Ice Assassin), Uncanny Forethought, and Psionics to by previous build.
Round1 -- Manifest Time Regression
Round0 --
Standard:Use SuGAF loop to gain N Standard Actions (Celerity). Use Supernatural Twin GAF containing Twin Celerityx2 (and suitable metamagic mitigation) to gain 8 Standard Actions .
S1: Supernatural Spell and Uncanny Forethought for an Ice Assassin
S2: Direct Stuffy Jr. to target Stuffy Sr. with its Stuffy Doll ability.
S3: Grant Stuffy Jr. an additional use of Stuffy Doll
S4: Direct Stuffy Jr. to target itself with its Stuffy Doll ability.
S5: Supernatural Spell: Hide From Undead
Round1 -- Disavow any allegiance to Stuffy Jr. "I was just using you!!!"
Round2 -- Problem Solved
Bonus: Since the last time someone used Ice Assassin on Stuffy Doll, you added the followingCreatures unfortunate to be cursed by the Stuffy Doll have there souls completely and utterly destroyed. Nothing is capable of returning them to life after this.Last edited by dextercorvia; 2012-09-27 at 11:01 AM.
Dex
SpoilerRegarding my Necrotic Apprentice trick:
Regarding my Non-Epic Hidecarved Dragon:
Check out the Versatile Domain Generalist.