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2012-10-27, 07:48 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: LGBTAitP #28: Come Taste the Rainbow!
I consider pansexual to be a more technically accurate synonym for bisexual, i.e. capable of falling for anyone. I would also uses omnisexual for someone who's capable of falling for everyone (Harkness) :B
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2012-10-27, 07:49 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: LGBTAitP #28: Come Taste the Rainbow!
Yup! And all pansexuals are by definition bisexual, but not the other way around, and only really if want to argue meaningless academic trivia. Really, it's mostly for fun. If it comes to an argument I'll shrug it off; it's a convenient way of saying "I don't like boys or girls, I like people".
That's true, but here is the thing. Impressions can be wrong.
The impression given is that a man is born with a penis, and a woman is born with a vagina, and that's all there is to it. But not only are people born with the wrong genitalia, some people don't really identify as man or woman at all.
Also, prevailing wisdom is that you will be sexually attracted to the people you love, but you will also be sexually attracted to people you don't love. So already the world accepts that romance and attraction are not conjoined. But because sex is so ingrained in our psyches, people just cannot wrap their heads around being able to be romantically attracted and in love with someone, and not find them sexy/hot/a turn on. But that doesn't mean it never happens, it just means that when it does happen people in general call you a liar until you ago talking about it and they feel they won, proved you were lying and reassertion their worldview.
Asexuals can fall in love. There are asexuals who find sex icky and gross an we why, there are asexuals who just aren't interested in sex but are willing as a sign of love, and there are even asexuals who indulge on occasion in the fashion of fulfilling a physical craving for a food you don't like. Although that sounds like aromantic to me, I'm just not goin to tell someone they aren't asexual. On the other end, aromantics exist, people who just don't get love. They can still have sex, or they could not. But the two are definitely separate, even of they overlap often enough to be confusing.
In the vein of complete disclosure, sexually active aromantics disturb me.
What do you mean by a good trigger? Someone who can trigger the butterflies?
Also: thanks for all the pansexual definitions
Trigger, specifically, is someone who triggers happy feelings. Yes.
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2012-10-28, 01:12 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: LGBTAitP #28: Come Taste the Rainbow!
So, it's disappointing to see how much trans-hate there is over on even the Queerty comments section. I may not have always seen why the need to surgically transition is so strong in so many people (truth be told it's still kind of baffling to me ) but I've never seen why people shouldn't be acknowledged for who they are, or should be shamed for it, or should have barriers erected against them. But even on a site dedicated to non-heteronormativity it seems like trans people always get the short end of the stick.
And so, to all the trans people reading this, you get big hugs. I'm right behind you.
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2012-10-28, 04:48 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: LGBTAitP #28: Come Taste the Rainbow!
It doesn't exactly make sense to me, either. Surgery conceptually, I have a love/hate relationship with. And having recently gone through an extended healing period with one of the cleanest breaks the doctor had seen, the recovery period kind of freaks me out. But... It feels like the right thing to do? I mean, I have a desired end result. If I'm willing to go for any amount of pain for it, I may as well get the most for my money yes?
Admittedly, the end result leaves me with some questions as well. But I've never been satisfied, merely tolerant, of what I've got already.
Oddly enough, I haven't seen any trans hate from anyone I wouldn't expect it from; the same guys who would mock redheads, blacks an homosexuals. So I probably have a painful shock coming real soon.
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2012-10-28, 09:03 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: LGBTAitP #28: Come Taste the Rainbow!
I have always found the need for surgery in many people quite logical. Dysphoria is caused by physical traits that are wrong, so getting those traits closer to right would naturally alleviate that. It would not be the case for everybody, since identity and dysphoria are very complicated, but it does make sense that it is common.
Then again, being a trans-humanist in every sense of the word, I may or may not lack proper caution around the topic of surgery.
On romance and sexuality: Ayup, they are more of a Venn diagram than directly linked. As poor as I am at social stuff, I would be quite positive towards romance, but am very much asexual. ^_^
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2012-10-28, 10:25 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: LGBTAitP #28: Come Taste the Rainbow!
So... if straight tea is without milk and sugar, what ingredients do you have in LGBTA tea?
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2012-10-28, 10:31 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-10-28, 11:30 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-10-28, 11:43 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-10-28, 11:43 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: LGBTAitP #28: Come Taste the Rainbow!
Clearly, adding chemical X to people makes them LGBTA...
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2012-10-28, 01:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-10-28, 01:17 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-10-28, 01:42 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-10-28, 02:00 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: LGBTAitP #28: Come Taste the Rainbow!
Shouldn't Asexuals have nothing added to their tea? Unless they're romantics of some sort, in which case I have to ask - what is the tea additive essence of romance?
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2012-10-28, 02:01 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: LGBTAitP #28: Come Taste the Rainbow!
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2012-10-28, 02:12 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: LGBTAitP #28: Come Taste the Rainbow!
Thirty Lagerbetas that there is a Silver Age comicbook about that. ::::3
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That one comic is so adorable. ^_^
Chocolate, of course. Serotonin is Serotinin.
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2012-10-28, 02:25 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: LGBTAitP #28: Come Taste the Rainbow!
Well, in the world of comics there is always Pink Kryptonite...
That one comic is so adorable. ^_^
Chocolate, of course. Serotonin is Serotinin.
I really wish I drank tea, I want to try all these ideas. ^_^'
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2012-10-28, 02:53 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-10-28, 03:14 PM (ISO 8601)
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What seems strange to me is that the most vehemently anti-trans people I've ever met were feminists I met in college, though most of those were the radical "let's kill all the men" types who nobody likes anyway.
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2012-10-28, 03:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: LGBTAitP #28: Come Taste the Rainbow!
Actually, there are good reasons not to put all of that in a muffin - first, the flavors wouldn't all go together (carrot being the big one that would throw off the secondary ingredients for the other primary components), and second, the cooking times/proper temperatures would be different.
(Yes, I know that's probably not actually the point. )
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2012-10-28, 03:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-10-28, 03:50 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: LGBTAitP #28: Come Taste the Rainbow!
I always thought that being a "sexually active aromantic" was the whole point of being a twentysomething.
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Scientific skeptics tend not to coddle people who they think are deluded, and some of them don't see the evidence that gender dysphoria is any different from an eating disorder; they think it can be fixed in a few months with some counseling sessions and a support group, and that transitioning is just people not accepting who they really are. I wouldn't even call it a prevalent opinion among skeptics, but it is still a controversial issue in a group that tends to be very tolerant.... I came to appreciate that mountains make poor receptacles for dreams.
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2012-10-28, 03:54 PM (ISO 8601)
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I think the emphasis is on the complete inability to experience love in this capacity without the (usual?) complete inability to find someone else desirable.
I have to admit, I find it to be more of a quandrary than what gives rise to asexual or transsexual individuals.
It's different from simply not getting attached easily or having a sex life while not having really found someone that one clicked on beyond the physical.
If you're sexually active then why did you class yourself as asexual?
Or did I miss some kind of time lapse?
It's awfully funny how they're skeptics and refuse to acknowledge the evidence that it doesn't work and also won't bother to look into the history of it.
You'd think half an hour's research and a good ten to fifteen minute write up would have sorted that out.
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2012-10-28, 03:56 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: LGBTAitP #28: Come Taste the Rainbow!
Oh, and going out with Rosie Palm and her five daughter does not count - at least two people have to be involved.
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2012-10-28, 04:06 PM (ISO 8601)
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First of all: Then, not than
Second: No, you didn't miss anything
And most importantly: When you're a 15 year old boy, living in The Netherlands, you don't know any more terms than hetero-, homo-, bi- and asexual. There's no 'romantics' or genderdysforsia (although I did know what genderdysforsia was, I didn't know there was hetero-, homo-, etc- romantic.)
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2012-10-28, 04:07 PM (ISO 8601)
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Personally, I don't see how that's any more strange than someone who lusts after people who they don't love, but who has experienced romantic attraction before. But I suppose that's just me.
And I got the impression that Gunnar was attempting to convey the concept of being aromantic without knowing the word. But I will let them speak to that.
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2012-10-28, 04:33 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-10-28, 04:39 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-10-28, 04:48 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-10-28, 04:50 PM (ISO 8601)
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