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2017-12-14, 06:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Disney buys large parts of Fox - Marvel get back X-Men/F4!!
Youre confusing villain for antagonist. And its true, he's the primary antagonist of the movie, because cap and his interactions with the Winter Soldier is the biggest focus. But just like the Terminator, he isn't the main villain. For Terminator, its Skynet, for Cap its Hydra and their boss who's name I cant remember at the moment. Theyre the ones with goals, motives, desires and plans.
“Evil is evil. Lesser, greater, middling, it's all the same. Proportions are negotiated, boundaries blurred. I'm not a pious hermit, I haven't done only good in my life. But if I'm to choose between one evil and another, then I prefer not to choose at all.”
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2017-12-14, 07:12 PM (ISO 8601)
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A little bit, yeah, though it's hard to be that worried when I'm enjoying Marvel's stuff, keep hearing good things about Disney's main work even though I'm not watching it, and Star Wars... well, they're at least one for two with me there, and even TFA was much better than the prequels.
Also, we might actually get the X-Men, Doctor Doom, and Deadpool back into Marvel vs Capcom now, which would be great.Toph Pony avatar by Dirtytabs. Thanks!
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2017-12-14, 07:14 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Disney buys large parts of Fox - Marvel get back X-Men/F4!!
To be honest, I'm less concerned about the effects on the fantasy-industrial-complex per se than I am about a single massive conglomerate owning multiple major news outlets. I suppose it depends on how the subsidiaries get parcelled out, but Fox technically owns Sky aside from Fox News itself, IIRC(?), and Disney already runs ABC and ESPN. Am I just getting ahead of myself, or is that a real possibility?
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2017-12-14, 07:29 PM (ISO 8601)
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2017-12-14, 07:49 PM (ISO 8601)
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2017-12-14, 08:04 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Disney buys large parts of Fox - Marvel get back X-Men/F4!!
Fantastic Four in the MCU is good. Marvel comics no longer having to crap all over FF and X-men is also good. My big worry though is with the X-men movies. Sure, not all of them have been amazing. But especially recently, they've been doing a ton to expand the genre. And that's what the genre really needs.
Integrating mutants into the MCU seems like a huge chore. You can't really go back and say that they've been around the whole time. A big cosmic event where reality changes and they just sort of exist now seems super forced. And the series is already an incredibly successful franchise. Soooooo... I hope they keep it separate. At least for now. Let it evolve organically. Let Deadpool make Disney and MCU jokes. But ultimately, keep it separate. Push the franchise. Because while the MCU has some great movies, I can't handle watching what is essentially Iron Man 1 for a forth time.Playing Pokemon Y
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2017-12-14, 08:17 PM (ISO 8601)
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2017-12-14, 08:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Disney buys large parts of Fox - Marvel get back X-Men/F4!!
I would say I'm happy for the Fantastic 4, which Marvel Studios could easily do justice and at this point would be the only ones who would and as far as comics and this deal goes are the big winners.
Though - while the main series X-Men were pretty much killed with Apocalypse - Deadpool and Logan are among my favourite movies in the genre, and I don't really see them happening anymore. That kind of risk came from a studio with not as much to lose, who were willing to make relatively cheap Superhero movies with out-there scripts.
Then again, you can't make another Logan, it was conceptually tied to a franchise that had been around since Bill Clinton was President and had actors embodying those roles for most of my life rather than just a dystopic western with superheroes. Deadpool 2's already done production I believe, so there will at least be that.
As to cheering further monopolization of the media, meh, I can't do anything about it assuming it goes through. At the very least I can see the upside to it.
Disney's going to have a lot of content when it gets its streaming service, though.
To my knowledge, the Marvel video game rights were there own issue separate from the film/television/animation deals. There are recent Marvel games with all those X/F4 characters in it - like the Diablo-esque FTP game or the Lego ones - indicating that Marvel can still license them, but Capcom's specific licensing agreement doesn't include them.
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2017-12-14, 09:40 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Disney buys large parts of Fox - Marvel get back X-Men/F4!!
Speculation/rumor mill had it that Marvel specifically didn't want to include characters Fox held those rights to both to avoid promoting their films and because Fox having some cut of the merchandising for those characters would be involved. And regardless of the details, it was certainly Marvel's decision, and given who specifically they left off there's no way it wasn't related to them being Fox's characters. So with this happening, that barrier should go down, and I'd fully expect Capcom to jump at the chance to add those characters in as DLC.
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2017-12-14, 11:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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2017-12-15, 12:02 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Disney buys large parts of Fox - Marvel get back X-Men/F4!!
Marvel always had the rights to Skrulls. They did not have the Super Skrull rights.
Anyways, industry chatter says that mutants will stay with Disney-Fox, but Fantastic Four is likely to be moved to Disney-Marvel, along with individual switches for those mutants who are also Avengers. Not sure what tea leaves they're reading, but it is what happened after Pixar was bought.
Disney loves having the subsidiaries compete, it seems.
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2017-12-15, 02:01 AM (ISO 8601)
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Well, maybe next Fantastic 4 will be better Well done Disney
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2017-12-15, 10:32 AM (ISO 8601)
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I am. Being able to bring those franchises home is great and all (especially since other than Deadpool and Logan, most of the non-Marvel movies with Marvel characters were only so-so at best), but having fewer studios out there is never a good thing IMO.
I'm not really sure it's fair to single out Marvel here. How many times have Batman villains lasted longer than one film? How about Superman villains? James Bond? Star Trek?
Villains that remain relevant and dangerous throughout an entire film series is pretty rare, it seems to me. Star Wars is probably the best example, but after that I struggle to think of many more.
Ugh. I'm normally not a fan of reboots or retcons, but in the case of the X-Men, I'd be perfectly happy if they just excised the last 20 years' worth of stories entirely.
I'm okay with this, if it's true. I would actually prefer the X-verse to remain separate. The Marvel comic verse is a bit overcrowded IMO, and I think I'd prefer an X-Men universe to remain separate from the MCU.
Besides, at least the illusion of competition is better than nothing at all.Last edited by Velaryon; 2017-12-15 at 10:32 AM.
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2017-12-15, 12:42 PM (ISO 8601)
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The other thing to remember with this is that it'll take at least a year for the Federal Trade Commission and Federal Communications Commission to review everything and accept or reject it. Or longer, given the two bureaucracies have to agree. Even if this goes through, we likely won't begin to see the effects until 2020.
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2017-12-15, 12:50 PM (ISO 8601)
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How is this supposed to be a good thing?
I saw the 2002 and 2004 Spiderman films, and they were good or okay, whereas watching Iron Man, Iron Man 2, and The Avengers bored me.
The Avengers had two highlights:
1) A character that looked good in tights.
2) The "Puny god" line.
Robert Downey Jr. as a drunken Tony Stark was memorable, but not something I wished to see.
In contrast the X-Men had a very memorable scene of a young Magneto bending the bars of a concentration camp upon being separated from his mother, using his mind. That short scene was effecting, and I rate it high not just for "genre movies" but films in general.
Also X-Men had multiple characters who filled out their tights nicely.
I liked Big Hero 6, but what I've seen of live-action Disney Marvel films was inferior to the non-Disney ones.
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2017-12-15, 01:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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I'll be honest, not really. If they'd gotten Fox's broadcast and news arms, I would be much more worried, as I want as many available sources for my information as possible. Let me have CNN and Fox News and just maybe I can see the truth in the contrast between the two agendas. But when it comes to movie rights, the Mouse hasn't been a villain. They're ruthless with their rivals, yes, but when it comes to their customers they typically earn the comically large piles of money they make through actually enjoyable movies rather than screw them over every chance they get. They're not EA, in other words. I do not begrudge the money and power given to those who simply produce a superior product.
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2017-12-15, 01:31 PM (ISO 8601)
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2017-12-15, 01:47 PM (ISO 8601)
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To be fair, the great majority of the interesting Villains weren't owned by MCU before. I mean specifically those that are actually worthy of being in a movie (Apocalypse, Sinestro, Galactus/SS, Dr. Doom, Magneto, etc.). The MCU always suffered because they were left with less popular and less interesting villains on average. Loki and Thanos are the exception. It's basically a miracle what happened to the Vulture. And Red Skull was underused for obvious reasons (it would have been ridiculous to bring him to the present too).
They better do, because there's a second part incoming. It's the first time they require the main villain to live up the hype.
I said I wasn't concerned about it, not that I perceived no change. I think it's good news on the average. Like 90% good news; 10% fake
I think that's precisely why they did it. Now Disney has a real product to offer on streaming. What I meant is that "one big Corp" buying/handling a lot of other corp products is better than having one streaming service for each company (imagine Fox/WB/ScyFy all pushing to have their own service). I prefer streaming being more like Cable Service than a YouTube Channel. Less companies pushing for their special service is nice from my PoV.
That IS an issue yes. I thought you were referring back to OP (entertainment). In some countries where a significant portion of the media becomes monopolized a lot of horrible things happen. I know from experience
But I think in America the media is diversified enough to survive those problems at local level. Unless they take down every single NetNeutrality kind of law they currently have
That's good to know..
Just because the later movies weren't a complete flop for fans, that doesn't mean the fact that they are still way below to MCU standards. There is a lot of valid criticism for X-men verse, for instance Rogue is still hideous!
I agree Logan was a bold move; but Deadpool... not so much. Ok, yeah... if MCU would have handled it, they wouldn't have "risked" the +18 rate; but other than that, I don't think they were "innovating" anything. In fact, the strongest point of the movie was his fidelity to the source material, and I think MCU is just as capable (if not better qualified) to do it. They said they will keep the rating andKyle RynerBarakapoolRyan Reynolds, so I think we're good for now.Last edited by Lord Joeltion; 2017-12-15 at 04:12 PM.
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2017-12-15, 03:51 PM (ISO 8601)
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So no one is going to comment on the fact that Mickey Mouse can now go Super Saiyan?
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2017-12-15, 11:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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His hair isn't spiky enough.
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The best things that can come out of this are that some of the best villains are returned. Doom can finally be done properly - Galactus, Annihilus and the Negative Zone. Silver Surfer could be amazing, we can actually see the (original) Defenders as a team - how amazing would a reality bending team-up with Dr. Strange, Silver Surfer, and Hulk be? The Shi'ar can be included in the cosmic world, and the Brood. Having justice done to the F4 and eventually a Future Foundation would be great, too. The Illuminati/Infinity Watch can actually be a thing, now, too - Xavier, Strange, Richards, Stark, T'Challa, Namor!, Black Bolt (let's forget this terrible TV show and have the Inhumans re-done properly by the movie sudio) - let's do it!
There could actually be a film version of the Strange/Doom "Triumph and Torment" mini series someday.
This is nothing but good for the quality of the MCU, and the viewing public.
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Are there any outstanding Marvel properties that Marvel Studios wouldn't have access to after the Fox buyout? They still wouldn't "own" Spider-Man rights, but that's just a technicality and irrelevant to anything but what money goes where as far as movie-goers go.
They got Blade back a while ago I believe, and they clearly have the Punisher and Daredevil/Electra already. I don't think there was anything else.
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2017-12-17, 12:05 AM (ISO 8601)
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The biggest one is probably the Namor/Atlantis rights. They only have a piece of the Hulk rights, and Universal won't be releasing them without a serious quid pro quo. There's a few things from the Marvel UK imprint that are held by British studios, most notably Black Knight. And somebody, I forget who, has the Eternals and Deviants in their vault.
Oh, and they can't use the Winter Guard without the consent of one of the writers, because he locked in the media rights during a contract negotiation.
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So, since it's basically a given that there will be another Guardians Of The Galaxy movie, and it will of course have a Howard The Duck Cameo and likely have a Stan Lee Cameo because of tradition, what does everyone think of this.
Seedy space bar, the Guardians walk in for plot related reason.
In the back ground,
Howard The Duck, Predator, Alien Xenomorph, A Random Wookie, A Random Navi from the blue people Avatar Movie, and Stan Lee playing poker for about 2-3 seconds before the camera is off them.
Maybe faintly hear Stan Lee as he looks at Howard The Duck and goes "Got any three's?"
and Howard goes "I told you, were playing five card stud!"
Or something along those lines."I Burn!"
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I'm not talking about MCU standards of execution. The MCU is fun, but god can it be formulaic. No movie better exhibits this IMO than Dr. Strange which is visually creative, but with an incredibly bland story that we've seen countless times before. There were no risks taken other than changing some character's races, which from what I read was largely to avoid the even bigger risk of backlash.
Contrast this with Deadpool, which is rough around the edges, pretty juvenile, and yet it's refreshingly different. Which is the better executed movie? Dr. Strange 100%. People have often talked about the "superhero bubble" and how it's just a matter of time before it bursts. And it's movies like Dr. Strange that edge us closer and closer to this.
Even if you didn't like Deadpool, it was great for the genre. A low budget, R rated superhero movie could be a financial success. Even forgetting about the specifics of the movie, that alone goes a long way. Logan was even better because it got such a great critical response too. We've got Legion on TV which opens the door to more trippy concepts and styles of storytelling. We've got the horror movie New Mutants movies coming out soon. If this genre is going to last, it needs to expand on what it can do which Fox was really starting to delve into. Sure, Apocalypse wasn't an innovation and fell flat and I doubt Dark Phoenix will really push the envelope regardless of whether it turns out well or not.
Not that Disney isn't trying to expand. Guardians was a pretty big departure when it came out. But the lesson they seemed to learn from that wasn't so much "try new things" as "do more movies like Guardians."
Something I want to make clear is that I'm a fan of both the MCU and the X-men franchise. But I feel like the diversity in style is of the utmost importance. It's clear we're not going to get this from DC who've panicked from one project to the next (generally with good reason).Playing Pokemon Y
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I feel the need to point out Ant Man was a heist movie, and that Marvel also has there Netflix content, some of which is quite good and goes for being "Dark and Gritty and bad crap happens, sometimes to good people who have a super hero doing there damndest to help them even.".
As I understand it there taking a crack at teen centric stuff now as well with Runaway's on Hulu. Though I confess I've not gotten to watch it yet."I Burn!"
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They made Molly Hispanic, she's now Gert's foster-sister, and halfway through the mini-series they've still yet to actually Runnaway.
And there might be a different traitor or no traitor than in the comics because the traitor from the comics reason to be the traitor was renderned a non-issue in the first episode of the show, and that's all I'm gonna say to avoid spoilers for either.
Apparently the original author of volume 1 is involved in some way.
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